NBA Modern ERA Draft - COMPLETE OTHER THAN SKIPPED PICKS
05-28-2008
, 07:10 PM
Round 4/126 overall: Derek Harper
Alright, lets get the stats out of the way first:
Age 24
12.2 points on 58.0% TS
5.3 assists-1.8 turnovers
2.9 rebounds
1.9 steals
0.3 blocks
18.8 PER
Age 25
16.0 points on 56.1% TS
7.9 assists-1.8 turnovers
2.6 rebounds
2.2 steals
0.3 blocks
20.0 PER
All Defensive 2nd Team
Age 26
17.0 points on 52.8% TS
7.7 assists-2.3 turnovers
3.0 rebounds
2.0 steals
0.4 blocks
18.1 PER
Age 27
17.3 points on 56.1% TS
7.0 assists-2.5 turnovers
2.8 rebounds
2.1 steals
0.5 blocks
18.3 PER
Age 28
18.0 points on 56.7% TS
7.4 assists-2.5 turnovers
3.0 rebounds
2.3 steals
0.3 blocks
19.8 PER
All Defensive 2nd Team
age 29
19.7 points on 54.3% TS
7.1 assists-2.3 turnovers
3.0 rebounds
1.9 steals
0.2 blocks
19.4 PER
I'm going to list my team now instead of at the end of the post because I think that as we get into the later rounds team buildilng becomes more important than best player available:
Derek Harper
Penny Hardaway
Andrei Kirilenko
Tim Duncan
As you can see, I think Harper fits in with what I'm trying to do with my team here in the following areas:
1. FG% defense
Derek is a two time All Defensive 2nd Team Member, and to be honest I think he probably deserved it even more. All Defense in the NBA is a bit like Gold Gloves in baseball where some players seem to get it year in and year out based upon reputation, and I think this hurt Derek. But nevertheless, I think its clear that hes a stout defender.
2. Winning the battle of turnovers
Derek is a very low turnover PG and forces his fair share of steals, although on my team he will only be the 4th best steal/block guy which is saying something.
3. Efficiency
Just take a look at those TS percentages. And then keep in mind that hes a point guard usually which is the position with the lowest TS numbers on average. And even as he got older, while his usage went down he stayed decently efficient, as he put up TS%s of 54.7 and 55.8 at ages 33 and 34.
4. Versatility
Being a 6ft 4in PG means that Derek isn't going to kill you if he gets switched onto one of the other team's wing defenders. In fact, every single one of my players can play multiple positions. This allows me to outright switch screens when its the best strategy. Moreover, Derek(and Penny) can play either the PG or SG on offense. Let me talk about that in general a bit more here.....
If a team is a fast break team then I think its often best to have one primary ball handler(such as Nash or Magic) to always look to get the ball to. Moreover even if a team is a "one man fast break team" like with AI or Tony Parker, then I think its best to always get the ball in their hands. However with slow paced half court teams(which is what I'm most likely gonna be) I think it really behooves a team to have multiple guys capable of running the point and bringing the ball up. Now obviously I'll have the ability to get out and run when there are numbers, but for the most part I'm going to be a half court team.
Moreover, this gives me more options regarding bench substitutions since my players can play multiple positions and several can handle the ball.
5. Passing and teamwork
Having two guys who can run the point and having Duncan/AK47 down low makes me one of the best passing teams for sure.
6. Spacing on offense
Every one of my players is capable of both attacking the basket and shooting from the outside. Before this pick though, I wouldn't say that 3 point shooting was a strong point at all on my team. It still isn't huge for me, but Derek's 35.36% 3 point shooting ranks him 151st all time....obviously not great, but it gives me a guard who is capable of stretching the defense and making 3s. The fact that the other teams must at least respect AK47 and Penny's jumper plus the fact that Duncan has a pretty deadly midrange game makes my offense very well spaced and diverse imo.
Also let me point out that Derek was a very durable player. He played until he was 37, and 5 times he played all 82 games. In his first 7 years, he only missed 9 games total.
Alright, lets get the stats out of the way first:
Age 24
12.2 points on 58.0% TS
5.3 assists-1.8 turnovers
2.9 rebounds
1.9 steals
0.3 blocks
18.8 PER
Age 25
16.0 points on 56.1% TS
7.9 assists-1.8 turnovers
2.6 rebounds
2.2 steals
0.3 blocks
20.0 PER
All Defensive 2nd Team
Age 26
17.0 points on 52.8% TS
7.7 assists-2.3 turnovers
3.0 rebounds
2.0 steals
0.4 blocks
18.1 PER
Age 27
17.3 points on 56.1% TS
7.0 assists-2.5 turnovers
2.8 rebounds
2.1 steals
0.5 blocks
18.3 PER
Age 28
18.0 points on 56.7% TS
7.4 assists-2.5 turnovers
3.0 rebounds
2.3 steals
0.3 blocks
19.8 PER
All Defensive 2nd Team
age 29
19.7 points on 54.3% TS
7.1 assists-2.3 turnovers
3.0 rebounds
1.9 steals
0.2 blocks
19.4 PER
I'm going to list my team now instead of at the end of the post because I think that as we get into the later rounds team buildilng becomes more important than best player available:
Derek Harper
Penny Hardaway
Andrei Kirilenko
Tim Duncan
As you can see, I think Harper fits in with what I'm trying to do with my team here in the following areas:
1. FG% defense
Derek is a two time All Defensive 2nd Team Member, and to be honest I think he probably deserved it even more. All Defense in the NBA is a bit like Gold Gloves in baseball where some players seem to get it year in and year out based upon reputation, and I think this hurt Derek. But nevertheless, I think its clear that hes a stout defender.
2. Winning the battle of turnovers
Derek is a very low turnover PG and forces his fair share of steals, although on my team he will only be the 4th best steal/block guy which is saying something.
3. Efficiency
Just take a look at those TS percentages. And then keep in mind that hes a point guard usually which is the position with the lowest TS numbers on average. And even as he got older, while his usage went down he stayed decently efficient, as he put up TS%s of 54.7 and 55.8 at ages 33 and 34.
4. Versatility
Being a 6ft 4in PG means that Derek isn't going to kill you if he gets switched onto one of the other team's wing defenders. In fact, every single one of my players can play multiple positions. This allows me to outright switch screens when its the best strategy. Moreover, Derek(and Penny) can play either the PG or SG on offense. Let me talk about that in general a bit more here.....
If a team is a fast break team then I think its often best to have one primary ball handler(such as Nash or Magic) to always look to get the ball to. Moreover even if a team is a "one man fast break team" like with AI or Tony Parker, then I think its best to always get the ball in their hands. However with slow paced half court teams(which is what I'm most likely gonna be) I think it really behooves a team to have multiple guys capable of running the point and bringing the ball up. Now obviously I'll have the ability to get out and run when there are numbers, but for the most part I'm going to be a half court team.
Moreover, this gives me more options regarding bench substitutions since my players can play multiple positions and several can handle the ball.
5. Passing and teamwork
Having two guys who can run the point and having Duncan/AK47 down low makes me one of the best passing teams for sure.
6. Spacing on offense
Every one of my players is capable of both attacking the basket and shooting from the outside. Before this pick though, I wouldn't say that 3 point shooting was a strong point at all on my team. It still isn't huge for me, but Derek's 35.36% 3 point shooting ranks him 151st all time....obviously not great, but it gives me a guard who is capable of stretching the defense and making 3s. The fact that the other teams must at least respect AK47 and Penny's jumper plus the fact that Duncan has a pretty deadly midrange game makes my offense very well spaced and diverse imo.
Also let me point out that Derek was a very durable player. He played until he was 37, and 5 times he played all 82 games. In his first 7 years, he only missed 9 games total.
05-29-2008
, 10:01 AM
Round 4 Pick 7 (127 overall) - Biiiiig Chips
6-3 PG Rod Strickland
My Team Thus Far:
PG - Rod Strickland
G - Glen Rice
C - Hakeem Olajuwon
F - Lamar Odom
AC Cobra is next.
6-3 PG Rod Strickland
My Team Thus Far:
PG - Rod Strickland
G - Glen Rice
C - Hakeem Olajuwon
F - Lamar Odom
AC Cobra is next.
05-29-2008
, 12:57 PM
Round 4 Pick 129 Rik Smits
I really struggled with this pick. I would of preferred a more defensive force at the centre spot to pair with Webber. Whilst Webber is a good defender, he's not an unstoppable force and a pairing with a shutdown centre would of been nice. At this point most of the top defensive centres remaining have glaring weaknesses or can be easily picked up in later rounds. As a result, Im taking Smits as my starting centre.
An integral part of the championship contender 90's Pacer squads, Smits is a career 15ppg player (>17 in his peak years). His Career PER of 17.9 is great, especially at this point in the draft. On the downside he was by no means a rebounding machine considering his size (7'4") with a career average of 6.1 and a prime average of 7. Smits also wasn't known as a passing big man. However I'm pairing Smits with a 20/10/5 guy in Webber who more than makes up for my big guys defeciencies.
Smits also was known to step up when it counted. His best performances often came in the Pacers deep playoff runs, when him and Reggie had to make sure **** got done right. Having a guy who knew when to step up and has sense of the moment is always a good thing.
Honours
88-89 All Rookie First Team
97-98 All Star Team
My plan all along was to have a team that comes a lot closer to a true 9 man rotation with very versatile interchanging parts as I want to be able to throw a lot of different styles at opponents and adapt to opponents very well. At the moment I have 4 guys who can all score at a good rate and in a variety of ways, two good distributors of the ball in Webber and Dumars and two great defensive players in the same two. Whilst my team lacks the identity others have (eg. ClarkNizzles team is gonna stuff you on defense and grind you down low on offense), I really feel that once my roster fills out Im gonna be happy with a team that can hurt you in many ways and cover any weaknesses by using the full rotation.
Team so Far
C -Rik Smits
PF -Chris Webber
SG - Rolando Blackman
PG - Joe Dumars
I really struggled with this pick. I would of preferred a more defensive force at the centre spot to pair with Webber. Whilst Webber is a good defender, he's not an unstoppable force and a pairing with a shutdown centre would of been nice. At this point most of the top defensive centres remaining have glaring weaknesses or can be easily picked up in later rounds. As a result, Im taking Smits as my starting centre.
An integral part of the championship contender 90's Pacer squads, Smits is a career 15ppg player (>17 in his peak years). His Career PER of 17.9 is great, especially at this point in the draft. On the downside he was by no means a rebounding machine considering his size (7'4") with a career average of 6.1 and a prime average of 7. Smits also wasn't known as a passing big man. However I'm pairing Smits with a 20/10/5 guy in Webber who more than makes up for my big guys defeciencies.
Smits also was known to step up when it counted. His best performances often came in the Pacers deep playoff runs, when him and Reggie had to make sure **** got done right. Having a guy who knew when to step up and has sense of the moment is always a good thing.
Honours
88-89 All Rookie First Team
97-98 All Star Team
My plan all along was to have a team that comes a lot closer to a true 9 man rotation with very versatile interchanging parts as I want to be able to throw a lot of different styles at opponents and adapt to opponents very well. At the moment I have 4 guys who can all score at a good rate and in a variety of ways, two good distributors of the ball in Webber and Dumars and two great defensive players in the same two. Whilst my team lacks the identity others have (eg. ClarkNizzles team is gonna stuff you on defense and grind you down low on offense), I really feel that once my roster fills out Im gonna be happy with a team that can hurt you in many ways and cover any weaknesses by using the full rotation.
Team so Far
C -Rik Smits
PF -Chris Webber
SG - Rolando Blackman
PG - Joe Dumars
05-29-2008
, 01:52 PM
Round 4 - Pick 130 - F/G Mike Miller / 6'8"
VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS
With two high IQ big men who set great picks, I wanted to go with someone who could take advantage of those attributes, and a guy who had enough versatility to play multiple outside positions.
Here are the vitals, age 24 to the present.
15.4 PPG
.482 FG%
.418 3 PT %
.605 TS%
78% FT %
3.3 AST/GM
5.3 Rebs/Game (6.7 in 2007-2008)
What I like about Mike Miller the most is his ability to come off the high pick and either pass to the roll man or take the three with amazing accuracy. I think this is a tremendous weapon, especially given Mike's size and ability to shoot in traffic. Since Mike is an excellent shooter with great range, and he makes it extremely penal if you leave him to double. This is another great asset given very skilled passers like I've already got. Mike also has pretty good playmaking ability for a forward, averaging better than 3 assists per game during his peak. In earlier years when he played more guard, that number was higher.
Defensively, nothing really stands out. Admittedly I've only watched him play about ten games, and I didn't recall him being particularly good or bad. His defensive rating was very good prior to 2006-2007, but has been pretty bad since. His steals and blocks are modest, so if I had to make my guess I'd say he is an average defender that's capable of looking better or worse depending on the team around him.
Mike Miller is fairly young at 28, but his overall consistency over the years and relative health gives me the confidence that his production will not waver too much over the years. True he's not the iron-man that Laimbeer, Horny, and to a lesser extent KG have been, but
with an average games played/year of around 70 and no seasons missing 20 games, I don't think injury concerns are an issue.
Adding Mike Miller to my team of KG, Laimbeer, and Hornacek gives me great balanced scoring, and more importantly great spacing on the court. All of these guys have impressive range for their respective positions, and they are all good passers and guys without the ball.
Team so far:
Kevin Garnett - PF/C
Bill Laimbeer - C
Jeff Hornacek - PG/SG
Mike Miller - SF/SG
VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS
With two high IQ big men who set great picks, I wanted to go with someone who could take advantage of those attributes, and a guy who had enough versatility to play multiple outside positions.
Here are the vitals, age 24 to the present.
15.4 PPG
.482 FG%
.418 3 PT %
.605 TS%
78% FT %
3.3 AST/GM
5.3 Rebs/Game (6.7 in 2007-2008)
What I like about Mike Miller the most is his ability to come off the high pick and either pass to the roll man or take the three with amazing accuracy. I think this is a tremendous weapon, especially given Mike's size and ability to shoot in traffic. Since Mike is an excellent shooter with great range, and he makes it extremely penal if you leave him to double. This is another great asset given very skilled passers like I've already got. Mike also has pretty good playmaking ability for a forward, averaging better than 3 assists per game during his peak. In earlier years when he played more guard, that number was higher.
Defensively, nothing really stands out. Admittedly I've only watched him play about ten games, and I didn't recall him being particularly good or bad. His defensive rating was very good prior to 2006-2007, but has been pretty bad since. His steals and blocks are modest, so if I had to make my guess I'd say he is an average defender that's capable of looking better or worse depending on the team around him.
Mike Miller is fairly young at 28, but his overall consistency over the years and relative health gives me the confidence that his production will not waver too much over the years. True he's not the iron-man that Laimbeer, Horny, and to a lesser extent KG have been, but
with an average games played/year of around 70 and no seasons missing 20 games, I don't think injury concerns are an issue.
Adding Mike Miller to my team of KG, Laimbeer, and Hornacek gives me great balanced scoring, and more importantly great spacing on the court. All of these guys have impressive range for their respective positions, and they are all good passers and guys without the ball.
Team so far:
Kevin Garnett - PF/C
Bill Laimbeer - C
Jeff Hornacek - PG/SG
Mike Miller - SF/SG
05-29-2008
, 05:51 PM
Round 4, Pick 130: Samuel Dalembert
With my first homer pick of the draft, I'm taking the Haitian Sensation, Slammin' Sammy D. Ok, I admit, I don't know too much about role players in the 80s and early 90s, but looking through b-ref, I couldn't find any big men left with the defensive resume that he has already put up. The numbers speak for themselves: double digit defensive win shares four out of the last five years, a career two blocks per game, 10 boards per 36 minutes every year he has played, and a d-rating hovering in the high 90s/low 100s, all while hardly playing with defensive stalwarts in Philadelphia. He has also shown the ability to stay healthy after having some problems earlier in his career by starting every game the past two years.
Forget his respectable TS%, improved jump and free throw shooting, and a reasonably effective hook shot. The only thing I'm really going to need him to do in my offense is finish, something he can do extremely well with his lanky frame, as he has shown by being among the leaders in dunks recently. I have enough players who can create, and as long as he can slam the ball down when he gets it deep in the paint, the team should be great on that side of the ball.
I am continuing my trend of picking tall, athletic players who can run if necesary. Dalemebert has proven he can do that in last year's fast-break Sixers team, where he posted his best numbers of his career. I already have multiple options for going small because Kobe and Rashard can play the 3 and 4 effectively, while still having a very solid base defense in my standard lineup. My gameplan will be more defined once I pick a point guard and fill out my bench, but expect me to push the pace a lot with such an energetic team.
Team so far:
Kobe Bryant - SG
Al Jefferson - PF
Rashard Lewis - SF
Samuel Dalembert - C
With my first homer pick of the draft, I'm taking the Haitian Sensation, Slammin' Sammy D. Ok, I admit, I don't know too much about role players in the 80s and early 90s, but looking through b-ref, I couldn't find any big men left with the defensive resume that he has already put up. The numbers speak for themselves: double digit defensive win shares four out of the last five years, a career two blocks per game, 10 boards per 36 minutes every year he has played, and a d-rating hovering in the high 90s/low 100s, all while hardly playing with defensive stalwarts in Philadelphia. He has also shown the ability to stay healthy after having some problems earlier in his career by starting every game the past two years.
Forget his respectable TS%, improved jump and free throw shooting, and a reasonably effective hook shot. The only thing I'm really going to need him to do in my offense is finish, something he can do extremely well with his lanky frame, as he has shown by being among the leaders in dunks recently. I have enough players who can create, and as long as he can slam the ball down when he gets it deep in the paint, the team should be great on that side of the ball.
I am continuing my trend of picking tall, athletic players who can run if necesary. Dalemebert has proven he can do that in last year's fast-break Sixers team, where he posted his best numbers of his career. I already have multiple options for going small because Kobe and Rashard can play the 3 and 4 effectively, while still having a very solid base defense in my standard lineup. My gameplan will be more defined once I pick a point guard and fill out my bench, but expect me to push the pace a lot with such an energetic team.
Team so far:
Kobe Bryant - SG
Al Jefferson - PF
Rashard Lewis - SF
Samuel Dalembert - C
05-29-2008
, 06:19 PM
Round 4 Pick 131
Vin Baker
Picked 8th overall in the 1993 NBA Draft - Vin got off to a remarkable start to his young career...finishing off the year on the All Rookie First Team...but that was just the start. In his next 4 seasons Vin established himself as a solid 20/10 guy and one of the premier centers/power fowards in the League....standing at 6'11 and 232 pounds Vin was a force to be reckoned with - and with his endless list of post moves - he had more then just solid, polished offensive moves....he was nearly unstoppable for a good five year period. Aside from being a 4 time All Star and 2 Time All NBA Teammer - he averaged over .500 fg% over that stretch and was in the Top Ten in minutes played over a three year stretch and played in every single game (durability) and in the Top 9 every year in offensive Rebounds over a 4 year stretch.
Now the downfall...Vinny Vinh had some trouble with the bottle...and it became quite noticeable after his 7th or 8th season in. Where he got suspended for a few games here and there - and put on a lot of extra pounds. Some say this problem (alcoholism) is inevitable - but I think it easily couldve been just a case of being put in a bad situation with bad people (teammates), leading to some ill advised lifestyle decision...with all the team-first guys on my team and Terry Cummings (Mr. Church himself) - I think theres a good chance Vin avoids this problem all together and focuses on winning some rings.
If Vin can stay away from the bottle - he can easily give me 10+ season of 20/10 solid post offence along with some fierce offensive rebouding...but 5 solid season of this and 8 seasons as a very effective role player is nothing to lose sleep over - Im quite content.
He works very well with my team - and gives us a number one post option alongside the ever so versatile and never-getting-enough-love....Terry Cummings.
For thos of you who havnt watched Terry Cummings play before...FWIW - he also posted up alot too - depending on matchups
Dont remember this Vin Baker....
Remember this guy!
My Roster:
PG Chris Paul
SG Richard Hamilton
SF/PF Terry Cummings
PF/C Vin Baker
Vin Baker
Picked 8th overall in the 1993 NBA Draft - Vin got off to a remarkable start to his young career...finishing off the year on the All Rookie First Team...but that was just the start. In his next 4 seasons Vin established himself as a solid 20/10 guy and one of the premier centers/power fowards in the League....standing at 6'11 and 232 pounds Vin was a force to be reckoned with - and with his endless list of post moves - he had more then just solid, polished offensive moves....he was nearly unstoppable for a good five year period. Aside from being a 4 time All Star and 2 Time All NBA Teammer - he averaged over .500 fg% over that stretch and was in the Top Ten in minutes played over a three year stretch and played in every single game (durability) and in the Top 9 every year in offensive Rebounds over a 4 year stretch.
Now the downfall...Vinny Vinh had some trouble with the bottle...and it became quite noticeable after his 7th or 8th season in. Where he got suspended for a few games here and there - and put on a lot of extra pounds. Some say this problem (alcoholism) is inevitable - but I think it easily couldve been just a case of being put in a bad situation with bad people (teammates), leading to some ill advised lifestyle decision...with all the team-first guys on my team and Terry Cummings (Mr. Church himself) - I think theres a good chance Vin avoids this problem all together and focuses on winning some rings.
If Vin can stay away from the bottle - he can easily give me 10+ season of 20/10 solid post offence along with some fierce offensive rebouding...but 5 solid season of this and 8 seasons as a very effective role player is nothing to lose sleep over - Im quite content.
He works very well with my team - and gives us a number one post option alongside the ever so versatile and never-getting-enough-love....Terry Cummings.
For thos of you who havnt watched Terry Cummings play before...FWIW - he also posted up alot too - depending on matchups
Dont remember this Vin Baker....
Remember this guy!
My Roster:
PG Chris Paul
SG Richard Hamilton
SF/PF Terry Cummings
PF/C Vin Baker
Last edited by Shark Doctor; 05-29-2008 at 06:48 PM.
05-29-2008
, 06:50 PM
Round 4, Pick 132
PG - Mark Jackson
I'm going to hand off the PG position of my team to the #2 assist man in NBA history, Mark Jackson.
I'll get the negatives out of the way first as Jackson is not going to scare anyone with his jump shot from inside or outside the arc. He doesn't have a bad TS% (.522) but he's not really a threat to go off for 20+ points on anyone.
Now, the positives. Jackson was an extremely durable player throughout his career. In his first 16 seasons, Jackson missed 27 out of a possible 1,280 regular season games making him one of the most durable players in NBA history.
The biggest strength that Jackson will bring to my team as mentioned earlier, is his ability to pass the ball. In his 17 career NBA seasons, Jackson finished in the top 10 in assists TWELVE times including leading the league in the 96-97 season. In addition, Jackson has the fifth highest assist percentage in NBA history which should allow him to get the ball to Malone, Jamison, and Robertson in the ideal position.
- 1 time NBA All Star
- 2nd all time in assists
- Career PER of 16.0
- Top 10 all time in assists per game
My team so far...
PG - Mark Jackson
SG - Alvin Robertson
SF - Antawn Jamison
PF - Karl Malone
PG - Mark Jackson
I'm going to hand off the PG position of my team to the #2 assist man in NBA history, Mark Jackson.
I'll get the negatives out of the way first as Jackson is not going to scare anyone with his jump shot from inside or outside the arc. He doesn't have a bad TS% (.522) but he's not really a threat to go off for 20+ points on anyone.
Now, the positives. Jackson was an extremely durable player throughout his career. In his first 16 seasons, Jackson missed 27 out of a possible 1,280 regular season games making him one of the most durable players in NBA history.
The biggest strength that Jackson will bring to my team as mentioned earlier, is his ability to pass the ball. In his 17 career NBA seasons, Jackson finished in the top 10 in assists TWELVE times including leading the league in the 96-97 season. In addition, Jackson has the fifth highest assist percentage in NBA history which should allow him to get the ball to Malone, Jamison, and Robertson in the ideal position.
- 1 time NBA All Star
- 2nd all time in assists
- Career PER of 16.0
- Top 10 all time in assists per game
My team so far...
PG - Mark Jackson
SG - Alvin Robertson
SF - Antawn Jamison
PF - Karl Malone
05-29-2008
, 07:03 PM
Round #4, Pick #133: Toni Kukoc
I think Kukoc is a great fit for my team, as he bring a strong all-around game as a good spot up shooter, passer, and rebounder. He played a distinctive European style but was still a very effective player even coming off the bench behind Pippen on the Bulls. He had a very high basketball IQ and better court vision than many point guards. Kukoc's unselfishness will be a good asset as Marbury and Barkley will take a lot of shots, and he's good enough at passing and moving without the ball to to get open and find them for open shots. He is also 6'10, creating potential mismatches against smaller forwards and guards (he is listed as a F/G, not sure how much guard he played but would like to find out). I'm not sure how good he was on defense, but he averaged a 103 d-rating with Chicago which is pretty respectable, and if he's good enough for the 90's bulls he's good enough for my team.
Kukoc is another player whose actual career path probably has led people to underrate him, as the Bulls team got blown up after Jordan retired, and he was constantly getting traded around to bad teams where he was not a good fit and played on mostly tepid offenses. On my team, Kukoc is starting, not coming off the bench, and gets a chance to showcase his skills on a strong team.
Team so far:
Charles Barkley
Stephon Marbury
Kevin Willis
Toni Kukoc
I think Kukoc is a great fit for my team, as he bring a strong all-around game as a good spot up shooter, passer, and rebounder. He played a distinctive European style but was still a very effective player even coming off the bench behind Pippen on the Bulls. He had a very high basketball IQ and better court vision than many point guards. Kukoc's unselfishness will be a good asset as Marbury and Barkley will take a lot of shots, and he's good enough at passing and moving without the ball to to get open and find them for open shots. He is also 6'10, creating potential mismatches against smaller forwards and guards (he is listed as a F/G, not sure how much guard he played but would like to find out). I'm not sure how good he was on defense, but he averaged a 103 d-rating with Chicago which is pretty respectable, and if he's good enough for the 90's bulls he's good enough for my team.
Kukoc is another player whose actual career path probably has led people to underrate him, as the Bulls team got blown up after Jordan retired, and he was constantly getting traded around to bad teams where he was not a good fit and played on mostly tepid offenses. On my team, Kukoc is starting, not coming off the bench, and gets a chance to showcase his skills on a strong team.
Team so far:
Charles Barkley
Stephon Marbury
Kevin Willis
Toni Kukoc
05-29-2008
, 08:09 PM
Round 4 Pick 134
Jason Terry
write up coming later
Team So Far
PG- Jason Terry
SG- Michael Jordan
SF- Josh Smith
PF/C- Marcus Camby
Jason Terry
write up coming later
Team So Far
PG- Jason Terry
SG- Michael Jordan
SF- Josh Smith
PF/C- Marcus Camby
05-29-2008
, 08:48 PM
Round 4, Pick 135 Richard Jefferson
RJ fills many of the things I was hoping for my next player:
Good shooter
Playmaker
Team Player
Hot Girlfriend
Regarding RJ’s injury when he was 24: Jefferson missed the majority of the 2004-05 regular season after rupturing a ligament in his left wrist, an injury he claimed occurred when Detroit Pistons guard Chauncey Billups purposely undercut him on a layup attempt during a game on December 27, 2004. Jefferson ended up missing 49 games, but returned to action for the first round of the playoffs against the Miami Heat. Prior to suffering the injury, he had missed only five games in his three NBA seasons.
Jefferson has a career scoring average of 17ppg, peaking at 22ppg twice. His career true shooting percentage is 56.6%, peaking at 60.3%.
Jefferson’s efficiency and team-first attitude make a great player, and his ability to run the floor will fits well with Isiah.
Team so far:
Isiah Thomas
Richard Jefferson
Jermaine O'Neal
RJ fills many of the things I was hoping for my next player:
Good shooter
Playmaker
Team Player
Hot Girlfriend
Regarding RJ’s injury when he was 24: Jefferson missed the majority of the 2004-05 regular season after rupturing a ligament in his left wrist, an injury he claimed occurred when Detroit Pistons guard Chauncey Billups purposely undercut him on a layup attempt during a game on December 27, 2004. Jefferson ended up missing 49 games, but returned to action for the first round of the playoffs against the Miami Heat. Prior to suffering the injury, he had missed only five games in his three NBA seasons.
Jefferson has a career scoring average of 17ppg, peaking at 22ppg twice. His career true shooting percentage is 56.6%, peaking at 60.3%.
Jefferson’s efficiency and team-first attitude make a great player, and his ability to run the floor will fits well with Isiah.
Team so far:
Isiah Thomas
Richard Jefferson
Jermaine O'Neal
Last edited by flyingmoose; 05-29-2008 at 09:08 PM.
05-29-2008
, 09:31 PM
Round 4, pick 136 - Allan Houston - H20
Heartbreaker
First, let's all recognize that he influenced the sport so much they named a rule after him. Pow.
With a solid defensive core with Mookie Blaylock (6x all defense), Larry Nance (3x all defense), Patrick Ewing (amazingly only 3x all defense), I needed a pure scorer to help round things out. Many have noted that a lot of pure scorers were falling and Allan is the one who was a perfect fit for what my team needs.
One of the great all-time 3pt shooters, Allan Houston averaged 40.2% for his career while attempting 4 per game, and is currently 10th all time in 3pt shots made. Averaging nearly 20ppg, his high scoring duel with Kobe Bryant in 2002 when he outscored him 53-40 received tons of national spotlight.
For his 8 year prime, this two-time All-Star was basically a 19/3/3/1 guy with low turnovers given how much he touched the ball. His career PER is 15, not surprising given his role as a pure shooter/scorer. His career TS% is a respectable 55%, especially at this point in the draft. One of the most efficient high-end scorers left.
Incredibly durable, he averaged 80/82 games played in his first 10 seasons. It wasn't until a freak knee injury at 32yo that he missed any significant time.
Long and lanky at 6'6", teams sometimes put a SF on him to try and slow him down. While never a confused with a particularly good defender, he's a little underrated, with over 10 DWS 3x, and a 5 year stretch with a 104 DRTG during that same timeframe from his 25-29yo seasons.
Also a quiet clubhouse leader, Allan Houston was often mentioned as the kind of locker room leader that helps team chemistry.
With Ewing and Nance working inside the arc, Houston provides a great outside threat who can beat his man off the dribble if they overplay him one on one. Obviously a good team on defense, my squad is shaping up as a balanced offensive team that can rotate the ball and create lots of high % looks off penetration and dishes from Mookie or opportunities created from our strong play in the post. This is also a team with sneaky athleticism, something that can only help the Big Fella down low as we create lots of turnovers and look to selectively break for easy points.
This team is built to win in a playoff type format for a long time with durable, long lived players who complement each other well. Hopefully I can secure another solid wing type player to round out hopefully a quality starting five.
Team so far:
Mookie Blaylock PG
Allan Houston SG
Larry Nance F
Patrick Ewing C
Heartbreaker
First, let's all recognize that he influenced the sport so much they named a rule after him. Pow.
With a solid defensive core with Mookie Blaylock (6x all defense), Larry Nance (3x all defense), Patrick Ewing (amazingly only 3x all defense), I needed a pure scorer to help round things out. Many have noted that a lot of pure scorers were falling and Allan is the one who was a perfect fit for what my team needs.
One of the great all-time 3pt shooters, Allan Houston averaged 40.2% for his career while attempting 4 per game, and is currently 10th all time in 3pt shots made. Averaging nearly 20ppg, his high scoring duel with Kobe Bryant in 2002 when he outscored him 53-40 received tons of national spotlight.
For his 8 year prime, this two-time All-Star was basically a 19/3/3/1 guy with low turnovers given how much he touched the ball. His career PER is 15, not surprising given his role as a pure shooter/scorer. His career TS% is a respectable 55%, especially at this point in the draft. One of the most efficient high-end scorers left.
Incredibly durable, he averaged 80/82 games played in his first 10 seasons. It wasn't until a freak knee injury at 32yo that he missed any significant time.
Long and lanky at 6'6", teams sometimes put a SF on him to try and slow him down. While never a confused with a particularly good defender, he's a little underrated, with over 10 DWS 3x, and a 5 year stretch with a 104 DRTG during that same timeframe from his 25-29yo seasons.
Also a quiet clubhouse leader, Allan Houston was often mentioned as the kind of locker room leader that helps team chemistry.
With Ewing and Nance working inside the arc, Houston provides a great outside threat who can beat his man off the dribble if they overplay him one on one. Obviously a good team on defense, my squad is shaping up as a balanced offensive team that can rotate the ball and create lots of high % looks off penetration and dishes from Mookie or opportunities created from our strong play in the post. This is also a team with sneaky athleticism, something that can only help the Big Fella down low as we create lots of turnovers and look to selectively break for easy points.
This team is built to win in a playoff type format for a long time with durable, long lived players who complement each other well. Hopefully I can secure another solid wing type player to round out hopefully a quality starting five.
Team so far:
Mookie Blaylock PG
Allan Houston SG
Larry Nance F
Patrick Ewing C
Last edited by ClarkNasty; 05-29-2008 at 11:46 PM.
05-29-2008
, 09:32 PM
Capone takes
Round Pick 137- Steve Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmN4O...eature=related
To spread the floor I went with a good shooter. Now I’ll admit he’s not amazing, he’s no Ray Allen or Reggie Miller but he’s pretty efficient for a mid-round pick with a career 55.6% TS% and a high of 58.8%. He also had a career PER of 16.1 and highs around 18 in the mid of his career. At his peak he also averaged about 4 rebs and 4 assists again not bad for a 4th round pick and pretty much a shooter.
Defensively he’s average to below average, but since the rest of my team is either elite or at least above average it shouldn’t be a problem covering him up.
He did miss games though in his career although he also played a lot of full seasons throughout his career. At 23 he missed 34 games, at 29 he missed 14 out of 50 and at 33 he missed 29 out of 82.
Looks like my team should be able to run and play D which is what I was going for.
Awards:
1 time all-star
Stats:
Top 10 in offensive win shares 2 times.
#1 in 3 Point % for 1 season-Shows he can shoot.
Top 10 in TS% twice.
32 in 3 point Field Goals made all time
Team:
PF/C-Dwight
SF-Iggy
SG-S. Smith
PG-T. Hardaway
Round Pick 137- Steve Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmN4O...eature=related
To spread the floor I went with a good shooter. Now I’ll admit he’s not amazing, he’s no Ray Allen or Reggie Miller but he’s pretty efficient for a mid-round pick with a career 55.6% TS% and a high of 58.8%. He also had a career PER of 16.1 and highs around 18 in the mid of his career. At his peak he also averaged about 4 rebs and 4 assists again not bad for a 4th round pick and pretty much a shooter.
Defensively he’s average to below average, but since the rest of my team is either elite or at least above average it shouldn’t be a problem covering him up.
He did miss games though in his career although he also played a lot of full seasons throughout his career. At 23 he missed 34 games, at 29 he missed 14 out of 50 and at 33 he missed 29 out of 82.
Looks like my team should be able to run and play D which is what I was going for.
Awards:
1 time all-star
Stats:
Top 10 in offensive win shares 2 times.
#1 in 3 Point % for 1 season-Shows he can shoot.
Top 10 in TS% twice.
32 in 3 point Field Goals made all time
Team:
PF/C-Dwight
SF-Iggy
SG-S. Smith
PG-T. Hardaway
Last edited by ClarkNasty; 05-30-2008 at 10:55 AM.
05-29-2008
, 10:12 PM
Round 4, Pick 138: G/F "Thunder Dan" Majerle
(yeah, the watermark sucks, but this was still easily the best picture I found)
I took Majerle because he stood out to me among all the wing players as the guy who would best fit my team. He's pretty sturdy all around, but in particular I favored him over the other available players for his versatility, ability to shoot, and defensive skills.
He's a capable if not great 3-point shooter, putting up a .382 from the arc for 3 seasons in his prime; ideally, that will go up because the other offensive threats on this team will allow him better looks. He puts up decent rebound and assist numbers as well. Also, apparently the "Thunder Dan" nickname comes from his dunking, so presumably he could get to the hole in his younger days and either finish or find the open man.
A funny thing about his career arc is that, right in his prime (between ages 26 and 27), he went from 6th man, primarily playing the 3 alongside Hornacek, to starting at the 2 after the Barkley trade. (Note: My memory is fuzzy so I'm actually guessing based on minutes played here.) His stats and production shifted as a result:
1991-92 (age 26 at the 3): 82 games, 15 starts, 34.8 mpg, 17.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.4 bpg, 2.8 3PA/g @ .382, .551 TS%, .516 eFG%, 17.8 PER, 118 ORtg, 17.0 OWS, 10.6 DWS, 10.5 WSAA
1992-93 (age 27 at the 2): 82 games, 82 starts, 39.0 mpg, 16.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 3.8 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.5 bpg, 5.3 3PA/g @ .381, .573 TS%, .541 eFG%, 15.4 PER, 120 ORtg, 20.6 OWS, 10.5 DWS, 11.5 WSAA
To me, this shows me he can be capable filling either role, which will be important as flexibility/matchups will be big with this team. Sometimes he'll run the 2; sometimes he'll run the 3. The players I get in the next few picks will obviously affect what I can do a great deal.
Defensively, he's pretty good, although I can't personally say with any expertise. But he does have two second-team All-NBA Defensive Team awards and consistent defensive win share numbers. Also got a few steals and blocks along the way. A solid wing defender is a big asset to this team and allows us to match up more effectively.
Oh, and he's durable. We'll miss his 54-game season at 23, and from 24-30 he played in 73, 77, 82, 82, 80, 82, and 82 games. Doesn't miss significant time again until 31, which is a long ways away. Healthy, versatile, and productive.
Honors:
3-Time All-Star: 1992, 1993, 1995
2-Time All-Defensive 2nd team: 1990-91, 1992-93
He's also 82nd all-time in Win Shares and 59th in WSAA, and while I honestly couldn't tell you how relevant that is, it sure sounds sweet for the 138th pick in the draft!
(yeah, the watermark sucks, but this was still easily the best picture I found)
I took Majerle because he stood out to me among all the wing players as the guy who would best fit my team. He's pretty sturdy all around, but in particular I favored him over the other available players for his versatility, ability to shoot, and defensive skills.
He's a capable if not great 3-point shooter, putting up a .382 from the arc for 3 seasons in his prime; ideally, that will go up because the other offensive threats on this team will allow him better looks. He puts up decent rebound and assist numbers as well. Also, apparently the "Thunder Dan" nickname comes from his dunking, so presumably he could get to the hole in his younger days and either finish or find the open man.
A funny thing about his career arc is that, right in his prime (between ages 26 and 27), he went from 6th man, primarily playing the 3 alongside Hornacek, to starting at the 2 after the Barkley trade. (Note: My memory is fuzzy so I'm actually guessing based on minutes played here.) His stats and production shifted as a result:
1991-92 (age 26 at the 3): 82 games, 15 starts, 34.8 mpg, 17.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.4 bpg, 2.8 3PA/g @ .382, .551 TS%, .516 eFG%, 17.8 PER, 118 ORtg, 17.0 OWS, 10.6 DWS, 10.5 WSAA
1992-93 (age 27 at the 2): 82 games, 82 starts, 39.0 mpg, 16.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 3.8 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.5 bpg, 5.3 3PA/g @ .381, .573 TS%, .541 eFG%, 15.4 PER, 120 ORtg, 20.6 OWS, 10.5 DWS, 11.5 WSAA
To me, this shows me he can be capable filling either role, which will be important as flexibility/matchups will be big with this team. Sometimes he'll run the 2; sometimes he'll run the 3. The players I get in the next few picks will obviously affect what I can do a great deal.
Defensively, he's pretty good, although I can't personally say with any expertise. But he does have two second-team All-NBA Defensive Team awards and consistent defensive win share numbers. Also got a few steals and blocks along the way. A solid wing defender is a big asset to this team and allows us to match up more effectively.
Oh, and he's durable. We'll miss his 54-game season at 23, and from 24-30 he played in 73, 77, 82, 82, 80, 82, and 82 games. Doesn't miss significant time again until 31, which is a long ways away. Healthy, versatile, and productive.
Honors:
3-Time All-Star: 1992, 1993, 1995
2-Time All-Defensive 2nd team: 1990-91, 1992-93
He's also 82nd all-time in Win Shares and 59th in WSAA, and while I honestly couldn't tell you how relevant that is, it sure sounds sweet for the 138th pick in the draft!
Last edited by ClarkNasty; 05-30-2008 at 11:43 AM.
05-29-2008
, 10:19 PM
Round 4 Pick 139- C/F P.J. Brown
He brings some much needed defense to my team, and that's basically it.
Team so far
Drexler
Peja
Miller
Brown
He brings some much needed defense to my team, and that's basically it.
Team so far
Drexler
Peja
Miller
Brown
05-30-2008
, 12:00 AM
Round 4 Pick 140: SF Corey Maggette
After the Horford blowup I needed to grab a wing who could score and who wasn't a complete liability on the defensive end. Corey Maggette fills both of those needs. Maggette will be able to slash the lane leaving Richmond to roam on the perimeter. Arguably Maggette's best asset is getting to the FT line which will also help if I have to slow things down in a halfcourt set. He can also run the floor like the rest of my players. On the break I expect my team to be very deadly. Maggette's midrange game is also solid. He's a tremendous athlete with great strength who I'm hoping can help on D. Injuries are a bit of a concern but I feel like I'm getting one of the BPA here.
Team so far:
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Mitch Richmond
SF: Corey Maggette
PF/C: Al Horford
After the Horford blowup I needed to grab a wing who could score and who wasn't a complete liability on the defensive end. Corey Maggette fills both of those needs. Maggette will be able to slash the lane leaving Richmond to roam on the perimeter. Arguably Maggette's best asset is getting to the FT line which will also help if I have to slow things down in a halfcourt set. He can also run the floor like the rest of my players. On the break I expect my team to be very deadly. Maggette's midrange game is also solid. He's a tremendous athlete with great strength who I'm hoping can help on D. Injuries are a bit of a concern but I feel like I'm getting one of the BPA here.
Team so far:
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Mitch Richmond
SF: Corey Maggette
PF/C: Al Horford
05-30-2008
, 12:50 AM
Round 4: Pick 141 Brandon Roy
Among the smartest and most versatile players left in the draft, Roy led the Blazers to a .500 record in the Western Conference this year. His body of work is small at this point, but his upside is tremendous. He's also pretty cute, which may or may not help motivate RJ. I don't really know.
As a softmore he averaged 19/6/5. His career TS% so far is 53.8% and he is a decent shooter pulling 35.5% of his 3-pointers.
2007 Rookie of the Year
2008 All-star
Team so far:
Isiah Thomas
Brandon Roy
Richard Jefferson
Jermaine O'Neal
Among the smartest and most versatile players left in the draft, Roy led the Blazers to a .500 record in the Western Conference this year. His body of work is small at this point, but his upside is tremendous. He's also pretty cute, which may or may not help motivate RJ. I don't really know.
As a softmore he averaged 19/6/5. His career TS% so far is 53.8% and he is a decent shooter pulling 35.5% of his 3-pointers.
2007 Rookie of the Year
2008 All-star
Team so far:
Isiah Thomas
Brandon Roy
Richard Jefferson
Jermaine O'Neal
05-30-2008
, 01:29 AM
harper was a great all around player. early in his career he contributed a lot of scoring and later tailored his game to fit in with great teams by providing passing and steals and defense.
harper rates very high in win shares and all that crap.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...harpero01.html
05-30-2008
, 12:19 PM
Jason Richardson
A versatile player who can play 2 or 3 with JJ at the other spot. Hits 3s at a high percent AND with a lot of attempts per game (5.1-7.3). He isn't great defensively, but he's not a liability and he can be an explosive scorer that can slash, hit the long shot and pass that my team needs. He had only one season in which he missed many games, but most of the games missed were due to a freak hand injury when his teammate kicked his hand, so that may not happen in this league. Bottom line: he is young and improving rapidly, he can slash, he hits the outside shot and he can score in bunches. He won POTW 2x this season as well.
Team so far:
2/3: JJ/JRich
4: Buck Williams
5: Alonzo Mourning
A versatile player who can play 2 or 3 with JJ at the other spot. Hits 3s at a high percent AND with a lot of attempts per game (5.1-7.3). He isn't great defensively, but he's not a liability and he can be an explosive scorer that can slash, hit the long shot and pass that my team needs. He had only one season in which he missed many games, but most of the games missed were due to a freak hand injury when his teammate kicked his hand, so that may not happen in this league. Bottom line: he is young and improving rapidly, he can slash, he hits the outside shot and he can score in bunches. He won POTW 2x this season as well.
Team so far:
2/3: JJ/JRich
4: Buck Williams
5: Alonzo Mourning
05-30-2008
, 02:15 PM
Round 4, Pick 144: G Brent Barry
Brent Barry is a bad man! He leads all current NBA players in career TS% (.607!!) and is tenth among all-time NBA players. His career 3P% of .407 is among the top ten of active players and the top twenty of all-time. Put up a high of .476!! from behind the arc in 2000 and was over .400 in 8 different seasons. But Barry does more than being straight cash money from downtown. He can drive, dish, and play some serious D. Is an extra point guard on the fast break and shows shades of J-Kidd in this element of his game. While he’s no Dominique Wilkins, he can still throw it down as he did en route to being the Slam Dunk Champion in 1996. Also has a career D-rtg of 105 with seven seasons below 105. Has the length to frustrate the man he’s guarding.
The only real knock on Barry is that he didn’t play major minutes each year. However, he had his best season in Seattle at the age of 30 when he played over 3000 minutes for the first time in his career with a TS% of .652!!!, eFG% of .611, 3P% of .424 and a PER of 19.2. Barry has had a long, productive career despite being stuck on some God-awful teams in Clipperland his first two and a half seasons. I expect Barry to be fine playing full-time minutes at SG next to KJ and ‘Nique. Barry can also play point in a pinch if KJ goes down. Barry is a perfect fit on my team: he’s not a chucker, can play without the ball, and is perfectly happy to give the ball up if his shot’s not there. But he can’t be ignored on offense, is solid on defense, and is a leader on and off the court.
Stats: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barrybr01.html
Highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXg-k_1NGMY
Team:
PG Kevin Johnson
SG Brent Barry
SF Dominique Wilkins
C Andris Biedrins
Brent Barry is a bad man! He leads all current NBA players in career TS% (.607!!) and is tenth among all-time NBA players. His career 3P% of .407 is among the top ten of active players and the top twenty of all-time. Put up a high of .476!! from behind the arc in 2000 and was over .400 in 8 different seasons. But Barry does more than being straight cash money from downtown. He can drive, dish, and play some serious D. Is an extra point guard on the fast break and shows shades of J-Kidd in this element of his game. While he’s no Dominique Wilkins, he can still throw it down as he did en route to being the Slam Dunk Champion in 1996. Also has a career D-rtg of 105 with seven seasons below 105. Has the length to frustrate the man he’s guarding.
The only real knock on Barry is that he didn’t play major minutes each year. However, he had his best season in Seattle at the age of 30 when he played over 3000 minutes for the first time in his career with a TS% of .652!!!, eFG% of .611, 3P% of .424 and a PER of 19.2. Barry has had a long, productive career despite being stuck on some God-awful teams in Clipperland his first two and a half seasons. I expect Barry to be fine playing full-time minutes at SG next to KJ and ‘Nique. Barry can also play point in a pinch if KJ goes down. Barry is a perfect fit on my team: he’s not a chucker, can play without the ball, and is perfectly happy to give the ball up if his shot’s not there. But he can’t be ignored on offense, is solid on defense, and is a leader on and off the court.
Stats: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barrybr01.html
Highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXg-k_1NGMY
Team:
PG Kevin Johnson
SG Brent Barry
SF Dominique Wilkins
C Andris Biedrins
05-30-2008
, 02:37 PM
I need interior defense/rebounding...so why not take a guy who put up 12.7RPG/2.8 BPG last year? Oh, and he can score, too. I'm taking:
Chris Kaman
Daugherty and Kaman will make a formidable front line for me, with Brad providing a lot of offense, and Kaman cleaning the boards and blocking shots. Sorry, hitting the links, don't have time for a bigger write-up.
Team so far:
PG-
SG- Dale Ellis
SF- Scottie Pippen
PF- Brad Daugherty
C-Chris Kaman
Chris Kaman
Daugherty and Kaman will make a formidable front line for me, with Brad providing a lot of offense, and Kaman cleaning the boards and blocking shots. Sorry, hitting the links, don't have time for a bigger write-up.
Team so far:
PG-
SG- Dale Ellis
SF- Scottie Pippen
PF- Brad Daugherty
C-Chris Kaman
05-30-2008
, 03:03 PM
Round 4, Pick 146: Kevin Durant
OMG YOU JUST PICKED A GUY WHO HAS A TS% < 52%!!!!!!
Yes, yes I did. You know what else? He can't rebound. Not a particularly good on the ball defender either. You know what else? He's 19 years old. At 19, T-Mac was getting 20 mpg and shooting at a 50% TS clip. LBJ? 49%. Melo? 51%.
Not many 19 year olds come into the league and dominate. That Durant came in, shot better than all these guys while playing on such an AWFUL team is amazing to me. I was literally shocked when he came to me. I really wanted Jason Terry, but let's cut it, how many guys taken past the first 50 picks have talent like Durant?
Where will he fit into my gameplan? Not sure yet, might bring him in off the bench, might just let him start at 2-guard. I know this, I watch a good deal of basketball. I haven't been this sure about a player since I was about LBJ. And he's pretty good.
Oh yeah and Hollinger likes him too. Had him rated as the highest rookie ever. Can't link you to it because I don't have insider on this computer but just google "hollinger draft durant" and you'll be able to find it easily.
Someone to hand the reigns to eventually. Where he fits in now, well I'll discuss that more later, but Durant was knocking down contested 3's at a 40% clip in college (shorter obv), so that will space things out a little bit.
Also, his second half splits are much better than the first half when he stopped shooting 3 pointers.
Kevin Durant Evolution
C Sabonis, PF Kemp, SF Hill, SG Durant
OMG YOU JUST PICKED A GUY WHO HAS A TS% < 52%!!!!!!
Yes, yes I did. You know what else? He can't rebound. Not a particularly good on the ball defender either. You know what else? He's 19 years old. At 19, T-Mac was getting 20 mpg and shooting at a 50% TS clip. LBJ? 49%. Melo? 51%.
Not many 19 year olds come into the league and dominate. That Durant came in, shot better than all these guys while playing on such an AWFUL team is amazing to me. I was literally shocked when he came to me. I really wanted Jason Terry, but let's cut it, how many guys taken past the first 50 picks have talent like Durant?
Where will he fit into my gameplan? Not sure yet, might bring him in off the bench, might just let him start at 2-guard. I know this, I watch a good deal of basketball. I haven't been this sure about a player since I was about LBJ. And he's pretty good.
Oh yeah and Hollinger likes him too. Had him rated as the highest rookie ever. Can't link you to it because I don't have insider on this computer but just google "hollinger draft durant" and you'll be able to find it easily.
Someone to hand the reigns to eventually. Where he fits in now, well I'll discuss that more later, but Durant was knocking down contested 3's at a 40% clip in college (shorter obv), so that will space things out a little bit.
Also, his second half splits are much better than the first half when he stopped shooting 3 pointers.
Kevin Durant Evolution
C Sabonis, PF Kemp, SF Hill, SG Durant
05-30-2008
, 06:55 PM
With the 147th pick in the post-1980 draft, mmbt0ne selects....
Mr. Jackie Christie
Fills in my 3 spot very nicely.
He's not a super offensive force (unnecessary) but can hit 3's (perfect) play in a fast paced offense (perfect) and lock down some defense (wow, this works out well).
While his scoring went down as he aged, his 3 pt % went up and his defensive rating went down. From ages 29-31 (the prime of my team) he put up Dratings of 99-101-98 while playing on the fastest, fastest and 4th fastest teams. 2nd team all defense 3 times, first team all defense once, 7 times in the top 5 in steals per game, and 17th all time in steals/game.
Team so far
PG - Steve Nash
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Doug Christie
PF - Anthony Mason
Mr. Jackie Christie
Fills in my 3 spot very nicely.
He's not a super offensive force (unnecessary) but can hit 3's (perfect) play in a fast paced offense (perfect) and lock down some defense (wow, this works out well).
While his scoring went down as he aged, his 3 pt % went up and his defensive rating went down. From ages 29-31 (the prime of my team) he put up Dratings of 99-101-98 while playing on the fastest, fastest and 4th fastest teams. 2nd team all defense 3 times, first team all defense once, 7 times in the top 5 in steals per game, and 17th all time in steals/game.
Team so far
PG - Steve Nash
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Doug Christie
PF - Anthony Mason
05-30-2008
, 07:42 PM
Round 4 , Pick 148
Bill Cartwright
I fleshed out my back court with my first three picks, and now it's time to get a front court together. With that in mind, I choose Bill Cartwright. First, let's get the negatives out of the way. Injuries. He missed his entire age 27 season with a broken foot, and played only 2 games of his age 28 season as well. Now, I know my stance on injuries is not shared by all, but even I'm willing to concede that a big man with foot injuries is not a freak injury. So, while he might not get hurt the exact same way, he's almost assured to have foot problems at some point in his new career. However, with Tracy McGrady's bad back also an issue, I need to build for the short term more than the long, and I should get several productive seasons at the very least.
Now, the good. First of all, he is one of the most efficient players left on the board. His career TS% was .588. In his prime, he was regularly over .600, topping out at .637 pre-foot injuries. This is efficiency is not due to an Andris Biedrins type of usage though, as at his peak he had a usage rate of between 20-21%, which is the role I forsee him playing on this team. He also holds the distinction of being an above average free throw shooter while using this form, which might be the most impressive part of his game.
Raw numbers wise, he averaged 13 and 6, but much higher at the beginning of his careeer, put up 20 and 8 the two season before I get him. On the negative side, his defense is nothing to write home about, with a pedestrian defensive rating and defensive win shares and an underwhelming rebound percentage for a big man. However, at this stage of the draft, there are no complete players available, especially at center, and so I went with scoring efficiency over a defensive whiz and offensive liability. My next pick will have to pick up the slack in that area.
For now:
PG Tony Parker
SG Hersey Hawkins
SF Tracy McGrady
PF
C Bill Cartwright
Bill Cartwright
I fleshed out my back court with my first three picks, and now it's time to get a front court together. With that in mind, I choose Bill Cartwright. First, let's get the negatives out of the way. Injuries. He missed his entire age 27 season with a broken foot, and played only 2 games of his age 28 season as well. Now, I know my stance on injuries is not shared by all, but even I'm willing to concede that a big man with foot injuries is not a freak injury. So, while he might not get hurt the exact same way, he's almost assured to have foot problems at some point in his new career. However, with Tracy McGrady's bad back also an issue, I need to build for the short term more than the long, and I should get several productive seasons at the very least.
Now, the good. First of all, he is one of the most efficient players left on the board. His career TS% was .588. In his prime, he was regularly over .600, topping out at .637 pre-foot injuries. This is efficiency is not due to an Andris Biedrins type of usage though, as at his peak he had a usage rate of between 20-21%, which is the role I forsee him playing on this team. He also holds the distinction of being an above average free throw shooter while using this form, which might be the most impressive part of his game.
Raw numbers wise, he averaged 13 and 6, but much higher at the beginning of his careeer, put up 20 and 8 the two season before I get him. On the negative side, his defense is nothing to write home about, with a pedestrian defensive rating and defensive win shares and an underwhelming rebound percentage for a big man. However, at this stage of the draft, there are no complete players available, especially at center, and so I went with scoring efficiency over a defensive whiz and offensive liability. My next pick will have to pick up the slack in that area.
For now:
PG Tony Parker
SG Hersey Hawkins
SF Tracy McGrady
PF
C Bill Cartwright
05-30-2008
, 11:12 PM
