NBA Modern ERA Draft - COMPLETE OTHER THAN SKIPPED PICKS
06-29-2008
, 01:18 PM
Round 7, Pick 247: Tom Gugliotta
Tom Gugliotta will be the first big man off my bench. As usual, I'll address the negatives first.
"His career was loaded with injury"-- This is true, but he never missed more than 5 games in a season until he was 28, meaning I get 4 quality seasons. And after that, he still played about half the games in his seasons for the rest of his career, although he was only a productive player until he was 30 (IMO).
"He's white"-- This also is true. But for a white boy, he could play. (A) He's one of 38 white people in the world who can dunk. (B) He was surprisingly quick for a 6'10 240 lb white big guy.
"He's not as good as I remember"-- Me neither, but he's also a big man coming off my bench. He'll get between 20-25 mpg, but (A) he'll be my 4th or 5th scoring option, (B) when he's in the game, my team will be running a lot, so he'll mainly be scoring off of easy looks, (C) he's a solid shooter (although quite substandard in the 3pt department), but he can still shoot. It's not like he's Rajon Rondo out there. He's going to be guarded or he can make you pay.
Also, he was thrust into roles on other teams where he was forced to be one of the higher usage guys (on a crappy Bullets team, then on a T'Wolves team where KG was still young and they had not many great players). Like I said, on my team he'll be the 4th or 5th option. He'll probably still like to shoot sometimes when he gets it (although he was a big passer too), but he'll be getting the ball less.
Okay, now to the parts I like.
He was a very good passer for a big man. I needed someone who could come off the bench and be a good passer just like Sabonis. Assists per 36 totals (24-27, when healthy): 3.6, 3.9, 3.0, 3.9
He gets his hands on balls (heheheh). Since the team will be running, I want guys like that. SP36: 2.2, 1.9, 1.8, 1.5; BP36: .7, .9, 1.2, 1.0
He's a solid big man on both ends of the court (his defensive efficiency numbers are actually better than his offensive efficiency numbers).
In summation, I get a guy who is a complete all around player for a 4 year window, which also happens to be the same window I get Grant Hill and Doc Rivers for (plus Kemp and Sabonis who are 6 year window guys). So I like it.
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Team:
PG: Doc Rivers
SG: James Posey
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Shawn Kemp
C: Arvydas Sabonis
Bench: Kevin Durant (2/3)
Bench: Tom Gugliotta (4)
Tom Gugliotta will be the first big man off my bench. As usual, I'll address the negatives first.
"His career was loaded with injury"-- This is true, but he never missed more than 5 games in a season until he was 28, meaning I get 4 quality seasons. And after that, he still played about half the games in his seasons for the rest of his career, although he was only a productive player until he was 30 (IMO).
"He's white"-- This also is true. But for a white boy, he could play. (A) He's one of 38 white people in the world who can dunk. (B) He was surprisingly quick for a 6'10 240 lb white big guy.
"He's not as good as I remember"-- Me neither, but he's also a big man coming off my bench. He'll get between 20-25 mpg, but (A) he'll be my 4th or 5th scoring option, (B) when he's in the game, my team will be running a lot, so he'll mainly be scoring off of easy looks, (C) he's a solid shooter (although quite substandard in the 3pt department), but he can still shoot. It's not like he's Rajon Rondo out there. He's going to be guarded or he can make you pay.
Also, he was thrust into roles on other teams where he was forced to be one of the higher usage guys (on a crappy Bullets team, then on a T'Wolves team where KG was still young and they had not many great players). Like I said, on my team he'll be the 4th or 5th option. He'll probably still like to shoot sometimes when he gets it (although he was a big passer too), but he'll be getting the ball less.
Okay, now to the parts I like.
He was a very good passer for a big man. I needed someone who could come off the bench and be a good passer just like Sabonis. Assists per 36 totals (24-27, when healthy): 3.6, 3.9, 3.0, 3.9
He gets his hands on balls (heheheh). Since the team will be running, I want guys like that. SP36: 2.2, 1.9, 1.8, 1.5; BP36: .7, .9, 1.2, 1.0
He's a solid big man on both ends of the court (his defensive efficiency numbers are actually better than his offensive efficiency numbers).
In summation, I get a guy who is a complete all around player for a 4 year window, which also happens to be the same window I get Grant Hill and Doc Rivers for (plus Kemp and Sabonis who are 6 year window guys). So I like it.
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Team:
PG: Doc Rivers
SG: James Posey
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Shawn Kemp
C: Arvydas Sabonis
Bench: Kevin Durant (2/3)
Bench: Tom Gugliotta (4)
06-30-2008
, 05:27 AM
06-30-2008
, 10:49 AM
Round 7- Pick 252
PG-Jameer Nelson
Like most of my team, with this pick I have a player who can score efficiently. Nelson is an excellent three point shooter, shooting over .400 two of the last three years with a TS% of slightly over .560 both of those years. He's not a high volume shooter, only about 2.5 attempts a game from three and low double figures of shots in total, but since everyone else on my team with the exception of Larry Smith is a high volume shooter, I don't think it should be a problem. His 06-07 season is worrisome as his shooting percentage fell precipitously, but given that he rebounded this past season to his 05-06 level, I feel as though he should continue to shoot at a high percentage.
Now, his fit on my team. With Tony Parker, I have a PG already who should play 30 minutes a game give or take, so I'm not expecting anything more than 20 minutes a game at the most from Jameer. His outside shooting is a skill that Tony lacks, so if I need to run a lineup on the floor that emphasizes the deep ball, a back court of Nelson and Hersey Hawkins should sufficiently provide that. He doesn't play great defense and neither he nor Parker is big enough to guard the two, so only one at a time can be on the court at a time. His durability is a concern, but since he will be a backup instead of a starter, I hope he will be able to play close to the full 82 most years. While he might not be the best available, I feel like I need a player of his skill set for my backup PG, and I have a few face melters in mind for the later rounds to shore up my other backup positions. For now:
PG Tony Parker
SG Hersey Hawkins
SF Tracy McGrady
PF Larry Smith
C Bill Cartwright
SF Cedric Ceballos
PG Jameer Nelson
PG-Jameer Nelson
Like most of my team, with this pick I have a player who can score efficiently. Nelson is an excellent three point shooter, shooting over .400 two of the last three years with a TS% of slightly over .560 both of those years. He's not a high volume shooter, only about 2.5 attempts a game from three and low double figures of shots in total, but since everyone else on my team with the exception of Larry Smith is a high volume shooter, I don't think it should be a problem. His 06-07 season is worrisome as his shooting percentage fell precipitously, but given that he rebounded this past season to his 05-06 level, I feel as though he should continue to shoot at a high percentage.
Now, his fit on my team. With Tony Parker, I have a PG already who should play 30 minutes a game give or take, so I'm not expecting anything more than 20 minutes a game at the most from Jameer. His outside shooting is a skill that Tony lacks, so if I need to run a lineup on the floor that emphasizes the deep ball, a back court of Nelson and Hersey Hawkins should sufficiently provide that. He doesn't play great defense and neither he nor Parker is big enough to guard the two, so only one at a time can be on the court at a time. His durability is a concern, but since he will be a backup instead of a starter, I hope he will be able to play close to the full 82 most years. While he might not be the best available, I feel like I need a player of his skill set for my backup PG, and I have a few face melters in mind for the later rounds to shore up my other backup positions. For now:
PG Tony Parker
SG Hersey Hawkins
SF Tracy McGrady
PF Larry Smith
C Bill Cartwright
SF Cedric Ceballos
PG Jameer Nelson
Last edited by ClarkNasty; 06-30-2008 at 07:19 PM.
06-30-2008
, 01:08 PM
Round 7 Pick 254 Kenny Anderson
On my team I expect Kenny to play 15-20 MPG off the bench. By teaming him up with Moore, I'm going to have a fresh, fast, great passing PG on the floor at all times. Given the uptempo style of game I want to play with this team that is a must.
Had a career PER of 16.4 over 14 seasons with age 24-29 years of 18.0, 19.5, 19.5, 14.8, 16.7, 17.4. Kenny was a pretty decent but not great 3 pt shooter, with a career 3 PT % of .346, with a career high of .386 at age 29 on 3.1 attempts per game. Kenny was known to be a bit inefficient otherwise, but I don't believe that will be as much of a factor on this team where his main job will be to feed Ray, Kiki, and Brand, knock down the occassional 3, and run the floor, instead of his NBA teams where he was expected to be a main scoring threat. Final big values of Kenny is that he is good at creating turnovers on defense and not turning over the ball on offense.
Team so far:
PG Johnny Moore
PG Kenny Anderson
SG Ray Allen
SF Kiki Vandeweghe
SF/PF Jerome Kersey
PF/C Elton Brand
PF/C Rick Mahorn
On my team I expect Kenny to play 15-20 MPG off the bench. By teaming him up with Moore, I'm going to have a fresh, fast, great passing PG on the floor at all times. Given the uptempo style of game I want to play with this team that is a must.
Had a career PER of 16.4 over 14 seasons with age 24-29 years of 18.0, 19.5, 19.5, 14.8, 16.7, 17.4. Kenny was a pretty decent but not great 3 pt shooter, with a career 3 PT % of .346, with a career high of .386 at age 29 on 3.1 attempts per game. Kenny was known to be a bit inefficient otherwise, but I don't believe that will be as much of a factor on this team where his main job will be to feed Ray, Kiki, and Brand, knock down the occassional 3, and run the floor, instead of his NBA teams where he was expected to be a main scoring threat. Final big values of Kenny is that he is good at creating turnovers on defense and not turning over the ball on offense.
Team so far:
PG Johnny Moore
PG Kenny Anderson
SG Ray Allen
SF Kiki Vandeweghe
SF/PF Jerome Kersey
PF/C Elton Brand
PF/C Rick Mahorn
Last edited by MEb; 06-30-2008 at 07:25 PM.
06-30-2008
, 06:49 PM
Round #7/Pick #255: Eddie A. Johnson
Before I explain why Eddie Johnson is awesome, I'll let him do it for me. Just like the rest of my team, Johnson peaked early, which further solidifies my chances to contend in the first 5 years.
Defensively, Eddie will be below average in this league, which is why I'm happy that he'll have diminished defensive responsibility coming off the bench. However, Eddie shined offensively throughout his career. During his peak (which I'm going to arbitrarily define as the 11 years following and including his age-24 season), Eddie scored over 20 points per 36 in every season, with a total TS% of .538. His full per 36 stats over this period are: 21.8 points, 5.4 rebounds, 2.9 assists, and 0.8 steals in 77 games per year. He did this playing 29 mpg (obviously higher in his earlier years) and won the Sixth Man of the Year award in 88-89.
Reasoning:
Eddie Johnson further solidifies my bench, providing a consistent and durable offensive spark off the bench. I believe he is easily the best wing scorer available, and am surprised he lasted this long. He has a good basketball IQ (he released a dvd called "Eddie Johnson's Jumpshot and Offensive Skills"), and will be a great locker room guy (has been a color commentator in both the NBA and the WNBA, and is also a motivational speaker).
My team is far:
PG: Kenny "The Jet" Smith
SG: Sid "The Squid" Moncrief
SF: Vince "Vinsanity" Carter
PF: Antonio McDyess
C: Mark Eaton
BN: Joe Barry Carroll (PF/C)
BN: Eddie A. Johnson (SG/SF)
battschr, you are on the clock...
Before I explain why Eddie Johnson is awesome, I'll let him do it for me. Just like the rest of my team, Johnson peaked early, which further solidifies my chances to contend in the first 5 years.
Defensively, Eddie will be below average in this league, which is why I'm happy that he'll have diminished defensive responsibility coming off the bench. However, Eddie shined offensively throughout his career. During his peak (which I'm going to arbitrarily define as the 11 years following and including his age-24 season), Eddie scored over 20 points per 36 in every season, with a total TS% of .538. His full per 36 stats over this period are: 21.8 points, 5.4 rebounds, 2.9 assists, and 0.8 steals in 77 games per year. He did this playing 29 mpg (obviously higher in his earlier years) and won the Sixth Man of the Year award in 88-89.
Reasoning:
Eddie Johnson further solidifies my bench, providing a consistent and durable offensive spark off the bench. I believe he is easily the best wing scorer available, and am surprised he lasted this long. He has a good basketball IQ (he released a dvd called "Eddie Johnson's Jumpshot and Offensive Skills"), and will be a great locker room guy (has been a color commentator in both the NBA and the WNBA, and is also a motivational speaker).
My team is far:
PG: Kenny "The Jet" Smith
SG: Sid "The Squid" Moncrief
SF: Vince "Vinsanity" Carter
PF: Antonio McDyess
C: Mark Eaton
BN: Joe Barry Carroll (PF/C)
BN: Eddie A. Johnson (SG/SF)
battschr, you are on the clock...
Last edited by KLJ; 06-30-2008 at 07:13 PM.
07-01-2008
, 10:44 AM
tyrone hill brings great rebounding and good defense. his 11rb/36 and 18% rb rate is excellent. he consistently did it for a variety of teams over many seasons so you cant say his rebounding was inflated by "situations."
hills other great asset is his defense. during his time he was considered one of the best post defenders. heres an article on hills defense: http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...2085/index.htm
hill was a pretty good finisher around the basket and his offensive rebounding allowed him plenty of easy shots. his ts was all over the place, i think bc he often tried to do too much for poor teams. but on stronger teams his ts was pretty good.
it all came together for hill in 1995 when he made an all-star team.
my team is:
amare
price
tayshaun
ron harper
bogut
glen (big dog) robinson
tyrone hill
07-01-2008
, 10:54 AM
07-01-2008
, 11:10 AM
Round #7/Pick #258: Raef Lafrentz
Lafrentz is a 6'11 pf/c known for shot blocking and his outside shot. He has a career 363% 3pt shot with 2.3 attempts/game. He's a 10/6 guy in limited minutes, with a very good career defensive rating of 104, dws of 50.4 and 30.5 wsaa. He'll also grab me roughly 2 blocks per game when he plays good mins, or 1-1.5 when he's only playing 20 or so minutes.
From 24 years of age, he played 69+ games 5/6 seasons (78/78/69/17/80/82), and here he will be a backup so may be more likely to stay injury free. He can come off the bench for zo or buck and not give up too much more on defense while stretching the floor by drawing his man out to the 3pt line, opening the lane for my slashers
Team so far:
PG: Devin Harris/Rajon Rondo
SG: Jason Richardson
SF: Joe Johnson
PF: Buck Williams/Raef Lafrentz
C: Alonzo Mourning/Raef Lafrentz
Lafrentz is a 6'11 pf/c known for shot blocking and his outside shot. He has a career 363% 3pt shot with 2.3 attempts/game. He's a 10/6 guy in limited minutes, with a very good career defensive rating of 104, dws of 50.4 and 30.5 wsaa. He'll also grab me roughly 2 blocks per game when he plays good mins, or 1-1.5 when he's only playing 20 or so minutes.
From 24 years of age, he played 69+ games 5/6 seasons (78/78/69/17/80/82), and here he will be a backup so may be more likely to stay injury free. He can come off the bench for zo or buck and not give up too much more on defense while stretching the floor by drawing his man out to the 3pt line, opening the lane for my slashers
Team so far:
PG: Devin Harris/Rajon Rondo
SG: Jason Richardson
SF: Joe Johnson
PF: Buck Williams/Raef Lafrentz
C: Alonzo Mourning/Raef Lafrentz
07-01-2008
, 04:44 PM
Round 7, pick # 260 Mike Dunleavy Jr.
For my 2nd bench spot, I grab one of the more exciting and versatile players in the NBA today. Dunleavy can play SG, SF, maybe even a little PF too. He's a fantastic shooter, can get to the rim, and is a very good passer as well. He has a high basketball IQ, some of which was inherited from the old man he's running over in the pic above, which showcases his toughness and hustle. He can rebound and defend and hits his free throws.
In his 4 seasons from 24-27, Dunleavy has averaged:
14.2 Points/game
5.2 Rebounds
3.0 Assists
.92 Steals
14.6 PER
Granted, this includes him struggling a bit with Golden State in the first few years of his career. I don't know if it was a bad fit for him or he just matured in the last couple seasons, but he is a very strong player now at age 27.
His TS% this last season was .605 and his 115 offensive rating was the highest of his career. His ability to do just about anything on the floor allows me to sub him for several different guys and use a variety of lineups which I will discuss more at the end of the draft.
My team so far:
Starters
Allen Iverson PG/SG
Byron Scott SG
Danny Granger SF/PF
Otis Thorpe PF/C
Ben Wallace C/PF
Bench
Mike Gminski C
Mike Dunleavy, Jr SF/SG/PF
BJLTNYK is on the clock
For my 2nd bench spot, I grab one of the more exciting and versatile players in the NBA today. Dunleavy can play SG, SF, maybe even a little PF too. He's a fantastic shooter, can get to the rim, and is a very good passer as well. He has a high basketball IQ, some of which was inherited from the old man he's running over in the pic above, which showcases his toughness and hustle. He can rebound and defend and hits his free throws.
In his 4 seasons from 24-27, Dunleavy has averaged:
14.2 Points/game
5.2 Rebounds
3.0 Assists
.92 Steals
14.6 PER
Granted, this includes him struggling a bit with Golden State in the first few years of his career. I don't know if it was a bad fit for him or he just matured in the last couple seasons, but he is a very strong player now at age 27.
His TS% this last season was .605 and his 115 offensive rating was the highest of his career. His ability to do just about anything on the floor allows me to sub him for several different guys and use a variety of lineups which I will discuss more at the end of the draft.
My team so far:
Starters
Allen Iverson PG/SG
Byron Scott SG
Danny Granger SF/PF
Otis Thorpe PF/C
Ben Wallace C/PF
Bench
Mike Gminski C
Mike Dunleavy, Jr SF/SG/PF
BJLTNYK is on the clock
07-01-2008
, 06:18 PM
Round 7, Pick 251: Run JMC selects Jeff Foster
To further solidify my bench I took one of today's most underrated players. Foster is an absolute workhorse who makes the most of his minutes. In limited action, Foster has put up 7 RPG and played stellar D with a career DRtg of 100. He's not a scorer but can finish around the rim which is fine given my wing scorers. He should be a solid big off the bench who will fill that role well. I was kind of surprised to find out he was 6-11 so that's a plus as well.
Team so far:
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Mitch Richmond
SF: Corey Maggette
PF: Al Horford
C: Ralph Sampson
SG/SF: Bonzi Wells
PF/C: Jeff Foster
FaDi on the clock...
To further solidify my bench I took one of today's most underrated players. Foster is an absolute workhorse who makes the most of his minutes. In limited action, Foster has put up 7 RPG and played stellar D with a career DRtg of 100. He's not a scorer but can finish around the rim which is fine given my wing scorers. He should be a solid big off the bench who will fill that role well. I was kind of surprised to find out he was 6-11 so that's a plus as well.
Team so far:
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Mitch Richmond
SF: Corey Maggette
PF: Al Horford
C: Ralph Sampson
SG/SF: Bonzi Wells
PF/C: Jeff Foster
FaDi on the clock...
07-01-2008
, 07:14 PM
Round 7, Pick 252 Lindsey Hunter PG
Quote:
n 1993, the Detroit Pistons had 2 first-round picks in the NBA Draft. They selected Hunter with the 10th pick and chose Tennessee guard Allan Houston with the 11th. Lindsey has spent most of his professional career playing with the Pistons organization. his first stint in Detroit lasted from 1993 to 2000 when he was traded to the Milwaukee Bucks for Billy Owens. He played with the Bucks for one season, before being sent to the Los Angeles Lakers in exchange for Greg Foster. Lindsey was a contributor on the Lakers team that won the NBA championship in 2001-02. Following that season, Lindsey was dealt again. This time it was to the Toronto Raptors alongside Chris Jefferies for Tracy Murray and Kareem Rush. In August 2003, the Pistons re-acquired Hunter by sending Michael Curry to the Raptors. He was briefly traded to the Boston Celtics in February 2004 along with Chucky Atkins and a first-round draft pick for Mike James, in order to make the salary cap figures work out for the trade that brought Rasheed Wallace to the Pistons. Lindsey never played a game for the Celtics. He was immediately released and re-signed by Detroit 10 days later. Lindsey and Pistons went on to win the 2003-04 NBA championship.
07-01-2008
, 07:49 PM
Round 7 / Pick 253 - Stephen Jackson
HIGHLIGHTS
STATS ages 24 and up:
PPG 16.6 - 3.1 AST/G - 526 TS% - .343 3PT% - 4 RPG - 1.4 SPG
I'm taking Stephen Jackson with a bit of reservation. He's been no angel and is bit inefficient for my liking, but I think he makes up that with his versatility, defense, and passing abilities.
Offensively Stephen is a mid/high volume guy with a variety of ways to score and create for his teammates. He can be inconsistent and a bit of a chucker, however I think that with the squad I've got that becomes less of an issue. His ability to post up should work well with the outside shooters I've already got, and his semi-effective outside shot will keep the floor spaced nicely for the big men I have down low. He can also stop and pop, pick and pop, pick and roll, and of course slash Stephen's definitely a guy who can create his own shot, which was a bit lacking on my team.
Defensively he's been above average against guard and smaller wings, but he does tend to get overpowered by stronger 3's. That's no biggie for my squad, with KG and Bobby Phills being able to check those types of players.
Stephen's had his issues with character, but that really hasn't really translated to the locker room and the perceptions of him by his teammates and coaches. Across the board, SJax has been praised by both coaches and teammates, as well as those in the community for his charitable efforts. His on and off-court inconsistency make him a bit of an enigma, which you can take as either a positive or a negative. Either way, I feel that my team is full of enough high-character guys to take someone who might be questionable in that department.
I'm not quite sure how I'd play Stephen, but right now it's looking like he'd be a starter, with Mike Miller coming off the Bench. That's something I'll have to think about further.
My team so far with proposed lineups:
PG/SG - Jeff Hornacek
SG/SF - Bobby Phills
SG/SF - Stephen Jackson
SF/PF/C - Kevin Garnett
C - Bill Laimbeer
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SG/SF - Mike Miller
C/PF - Elden Campbell
HIGHLIGHTS
STATS ages 24 and up:
PPG 16.6 - 3.1 AST/G - 526 TS% - .343 3PT% - 4 RPG - 1.4 SPG
I'm taking Stephen Jackson with a bit of reservation. He's been no angel and is bit inefficient for my liking, but I think he makes up that with his versatility, defense, and passing abilities.
Offensively Stephen is a mid/high volume guy with a variety of ways to score and create for his teammates. He can be inconsistent and a bit of a chucker, however I think that with the squad I've got that becomes less of an issue. His ability to post up should work well with the outside shooters I've already got, and his semi-effective outside shot will keep the floor spaced nicely for the big men I have down low. He can also stop and pop, pick and pop, pick and roll, and of course slash Stephen's definitely a guy who can create his own shot, which was a bit lacking on my team.
Defensively he's been above average against guard and smaller wings, but he does tend to get overpowered by stronger 3's. That's no biggie for my squad, with KG and Bobby Phills being able to check those types of players.
Stephen's had his issues with character, but that really hasn't really translated to the locker room and the perceptions of him by his teammates and coaches. Across the board, SJax has been praised by both coaches and teammates, as well as those in the community for his charitable efforts. His on and off-court inconsistency make him a bit of an enigma, which you can take as either a positive or a negative. Either way, I feel that my team is full of enough high-character guys to take someone who might be questionable in that department.
I'm not quite sure how I'd play Stephen, but right now it's looking like he'd be a starter, with Mike Miller coming off the Bench. That's something I'll have to think about further.
My team so far with proposed lineups:
PG/SG - Jeff Hornacek
SG/SF - Bobby Phills
SG/SF - Stephen Jackson
SF/PF/C - Kevin Garnett
C - Bill Laimbeer
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SG/SF - Mike Miller
C/PF - Elden Campbell
Last edited by Seadood228; 07-01-2008 at 08:00 PM.
07-01-2008
, 07:58 PM
Round 7, Pick 254 Michael Adams, PG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxxuUcFEUPA
Surprised he is still available. Had a sick peak year with the Denver Nuggets in 1990-1991 season when he averaged 26.5, 10.5 assists and 3.9 rebounds a game and 2.2 steals per game and a PER for 22.3 although he did only shoot 39% from the field but had a TS% of 53%. I know he played on a bad fast paced team but that’s an incredible season for even a first round pick. A career 16.6 PER for a PG and a career 53% (about average) is quite a steal at this point and a career 14.7p/6.4a/2.9r and 1.7s per game player in 31 mpg. Also a 1 time all-star.
His career DRTG is 110 but he played on some really bad defensive teams. With that being said he did average 1.7 steals per game and nearly 2 for a 5 year stretch. As with most pgs, D is pretty overrated anyways.
1 worry with him is he chucks including 1 season when he averaged 8.5 3s per game. His late career is kind of weak (32-33) but I didn’t expect to get a great long career guy this late in the draft but I do get 24-31 at a relatively healthy clip.
As with most of my picks, this is another guy who can run the floor. My backup and starting PG are both guys who excelled at a fast paced game. One worry is his height, both my point guards are pretty short and they can’t play the 2.
I now have a ton of 3 point shooters with Clifford, Steve, Tim and Michael all taking a lot of 3s. I will try to calm them down with that.
Now my team still needs another big man shooter/shot blocker, another penetrator from the wing and another wing defender to complete my team.
Starting Lineup:
PG: Tim Hardaway
SG: Steve Smith
SF: Andre Iguodala
PF: Clifford Robinson
C: Dwight Howard
Bench:
PG: Michael Adams
PF: David Lee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxxuUcFEUPA
Surprised he is still available. Had a sick peak year with the Denver Nuggets in 1990-1991 season when he averaged 26.5, 10.5 assists and 3.9 rebounds a game and 2.2 steals per game and a PER for 22.3 although he did only shoot 39% from the field but had a TS% of 53%. I know he played on a bad fast paced team but that’s an incredible season for even a first round pick. A career 16.6 PER for a PG and a career 53% (about average) is quite a steal at this point and a career 14.7p/6.4a/2.9r and 1.7s per game player in 31 mpg. Also a 1 time all-star.
His career DRTG is 110 but he played on some really bad defensive teams. With that being said he did average 1.7 steals per game and nearly 2 for a 5 year stretch. As with most pgs, D is pretty overrated anyways.
1 worry with him is he chucks including 1 season when he averaged 8.5 3s per game. His late career is kind of weak (32-33) but I didn’t expect to get a great long career guy this late in the draft but I do get 24-31 at a relatively healthy clip.
As with most of my picks, this is another guy who can run the floor. My backup and starting PG are both guys who excelled at a fast paced game. One worry is his height, both my point guards are pretty short and they can’t play the 2.
I now have a ton of 3 point shooters with Clifford, Steve, Tim and Michael all taking a lot of 3s. I will try to calm them down with that.
Now my team still needs another big man shooter/shot blocker, another penetrator from the wing and another wing defender to complete my team.
Starting Lineup:
PG: Tim Hardaway
SG: Steve Smith
SF: Andre Iguodala
PF: Clifford Robinson
C: Dwight Howard
Bench:
PG: Michael Adams
PF: David Lee
07-01-2008
, 08:38 PM
Pick #265
Dennis Scott, SG/SF
With my 7th round pick, I'm going to go with Dennis Scott.
Let's get the negatives out of the way first, as Scott was not a great defender by any stretch of the imagination. His career DRtg was 110 but in his defense his worst full season of DRtg (his rookie season) came on a second year Orlando team that had little to no talent around him. His defensive rating remained high for his career but with Robertson and Malone around him, I feel like he will be protected a little bit.
Despite his weakness, Dennis Scott can do one thing: hit the 3. For his career he was a 39.7% shooter from 3. Scott also had one season where he connected on a then NBA record (and still just 2 off the record) 267 3's, shooting 42.5% from 3 that season.
Another bonus I found with Scott is that for over half of his career games, he came off the bench which means he should fit into this role perfectly with my team. I can bring him off the bench for 20/25 minutes to bomb threes and continue to expect his high quality production.
The final thing so far I like about my team is their ability to hit FT's. I'm pretty sure everyone on my team shoots around ~ 75% from the line with a few guys hitting around an 80% clip which should help out my team greatly.
Current Roster
PG - Mark Jackson
SG - Alvin Robertson
SF - Sean Elliot
PF - Karl Malone
C - Mehmet Okur
Bench:
SF/PF - Antawn Jamison
SG/SF - Dennis Scott
Dennis Scott, SG/SF
With my 7th round pick, I'm going to go with Dennis Scott.
Let's get the negatives out of the way first, as Scott was not a great defender by any stretch of the imagination. His career DRtg was 110 but in his defense his worst full season of DRtg (his rookie season) came on a second year Orlando team that had little to no talent around him. His defensive rating remained high for his career but with Robertson and Malone around him, I feel like he will be protected a little bit.
Despite his weakness, Dennis Scott can do one thing: hit the 3. For his career he was a 39.7% shooter from 3. Scott also had one season where he connected on a then NBA record (and still just 2 off the record) 267 3's, shooting 42.5% from 3 that season.
Another bonus I found with Scott is that for over half of his career games, he came off the bench which means he should fit into this role perfectly with my team. I can bring him off the bench for 20/25 minutes to bomb threes and continue to expect his high quality production.
The final thing so far I like about my team is their ability to hit FT's. I'm pretty sure everyone on my team shoots around ~ 75% from the line with a few guys hitting around an 80% clip which should help out my team greatly.
Current Roster
PG - Mark Jackson
SG - Alvin Robertson
SF - Sean Elliot
PF - Karl Malone
C - Mehmet Okur
Bench:
SF/PF - Antawn Jamison
SG/SF - Dennis Scott
07-01-2008
, 11:35 PM
Round 7, Pick # 266, Aaron Mckie
With my 8th player, I select another guy who can do just about anything on the court. Mckie is a great athlete who plays tough defense and can come into the game and slow down some of the top scoring 2's and 3's in our league. Mckie was capable of scoring, passing, rebounding, creating turnovers and running the floor. He spent time starting and coming off the bench throughout his career, and he provides me with another versatile player. His key role on my team, though will be to be a defensive stopper with an occasional bucket here and there.
His per 36 numbers for his career are as follows.
11 points
4.9 rebounds
4.0 assists
1.7 steals
His TS% is not that good at .514 career, but he hits 78% of his FT's. His defensive rating is 102 and he had double digit defensive win shares twice. I will mainly use him at the 2, but occasionally at the 3 and once in a while at the 1. His best season was probably as a 28 year old, helping get Philly to the finals. You can see the stats on b-ref as he was pretty strong all around and even put up a couple triple doubles.
My team so far:
Starters
Allen Iverson PG/SG
Byron Scott SG
Danny Granger SF/PF
Otis Thorpe PF/C
Ben Wallace C/PF
Bench
Mike Gminski C
Mike Dunleavy, Jr SF/SG
Aaron Mckie, SG/SF/PG
steroid boy is on the clock
With my 8th player, I select another guy who can do just about anything on the court. Mckie is a great athlete who plays tough defense and can come into the game and slow down some of the top scoring 2's and 3's in our league. Mckie was capable of scoring, passing, rebounding, creating turnovers and running the floor. He spent time starting and coming off the bench throughout his career, and he provides me with another versatile player. His key role on my team, though will be to be a defensive stopper with an occasional bucket here and there.
His per 36 numbers for his career are as follows.
11 points
4.9 rebounds
4.0 assists
1.7 steals
His TS% is not that good at .514 career, but he hits 78% of his FT's. His defensive rating is 102 and he had double digit defensive win shares twice. I will mainly use him at the 2, but occasionally at the 3 and once in a while at the 1. His best season was probably as a 28 year old, helping get Philly to the finals. You can see the stats on b-ref as he was pretty strong all around and even put up a couple triple doubles.
My team so far:
Starters
Allen Iverson PG/SG
Byron Scott SG
Danny Granger SF/PF
Otis Thorpe PF/C
Ben Wallace C/PF
Bench
Mike Gminski C
Mike Dunleavy, Jr SF/SG
Aaron Mckie, SG/SF/PG
steroid boy is on the clock
07-01-2008
, 11:39 PM
Round 7 Pick 267
PG/SG Vinnie “The Microwave” Johnson
A great sixth man rarely gets the appreciation he deserves but can be a key contributor that turns ordinary basketball teams into world champions. They come in cold from the bench, are expected to rest the starters and after this must deliver clutch performances which is why I am taking Vinnie Johnson.
Johnson was the unsung hero during the original heyday of the Pistons, teaming up with Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars in the Pistons vaunted three-guard rotation. He scored points in spurts and heated up quickly, earning the moniker the “Microwave”. On my squad he will be part of another vaunted three-guard rotation featuring MJ, The Microwave and JET.
Vinnie became known for his ability to penetrate into the lane and hit jumpers. He also had a pension for offensive rebounding. Johnson’s moniker came from Celtics guard Danny Ainge who commented in the locker room, “If that guy in Chicago is the ‘Refrigerator’ then Vinnie Johnson is the ‘Microwave.’ He sure heated up in a hurry.” Thanks to Ainge, Johnson had a nickname that would stick the rest of his career. He was also quite durable as the fewest games he played in a post 24yr old season was 60, his final year.
Team So Far
PG-Jason Terry
SG-Michael Jordan
SF- Josh Smith
PF-Juwan Howard
C- Marcus Camby
Bench- Vinnie Johnson
Bench Joe Smith
PG/SG Vinnie “The Microwave” Johnson
A great sixth man rarely gets the appreciation he deserves but can be a key contributor that turns ordinary basketball teams into world champions. They come in cold from the bench, are expected to rest the starters and after this must deliver clutch performances which is why I am taking Vinnie Johnson.
Johnson was the unsung hero during the original heyday of the Pistons, teaming up with Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars in the Pistons vaunted three-guard rotation. He scored points in spurts and heated up quickly, earning the moniker the “Microwave”. On my squad he will be part of another vaunted three-guard rotation featuring MJ, The Microwave and JET.
Vinnie became known for his ability to penetrate into the lane and hit jumpers. He also had a pension for offensive rebounding. Johnson’s moniker came from Celtics guard Danny Ainge who commented in the locker room, “If that guy in Chicago is the ‘Refrigerator’ then Vinnie Johnson is the ‘Microwave.’ He sure heated up in a hurry.” Thanks to Ainge, Johnson had a nickname that would stick the rest of his career. He was also quite durable as the fewest games he played in a post 24yr old season was 60, his final year.
Team So Far
PG-Jason Terry
SG-Michael Jordan
SF- Josh Smith
PF-Juwan Howard
C- Marcus Camby
Bench- Vinnie Johnson
Bench Joe Smith
Last edited by Steroid Boy; 07-01-2008 at 11:50 PM.
07-02-2008
, 08:27 PM
Round 7 Pick 270
ISAIAH RIDER
Yes - I picked the headcase. A pretty good headcase at that. I was in need of a solid wingman off the bench - and he was the most talented one available (by a long shot imo).
He was known for his Dunk Contests and was the one who originated the between-the-legs-dunk (which was perfected by VC and J-Rich respectively)...but this man was a pretty good scorer as well! With a career 17 ppg (topping off at 20.4 ppg), 4rbg and a TS% of .526 and a career PER of 15...he will be an excellent addition to my bench as he has shown he can be pretty efficient.!
Roster:
PG Chris Paul
SG RIP
SF Terry Cummings
PF Vin Baker
C Theo Ratliff
Bench:
SF Chuck Person
SG JR Rider
(click on the name at the top for some JR Highlights)
Alex is on the clock....
ISAIAH RIDER
Yes - I picked the headcase. A pretty good headcase at that. I was in need of a solid wingman off the bench - and he was the most talented one available (by a long shot imo).
He was known for his Dunk Contests and was the one who originated the between-the-legs-dunk (which was perfected by VC and J-Rich respectively)...but this man was a pretty good scorer as well! With a career 17 ppg (topping off at 20.4 ppg), 4rbg and a TS% of .526 and a career PER of 15...he will be an excellent addition to my bench as he has shown he can be pretty efficient.!
Roster:
PG Chris Paul
SG RIP
SF Terry Cummings
PF Vin Baker
C Theo Ratliff
Bench:
SF Chuck Person
SG JR Rider
(click on the name at the top for some JR Highlights)
Alex is on the clock....
Last edited by Shark Doctor; 07-02-2008 at 08:34 PM.
07-03-2008
, 03:52 AM
Round 7, Pick 271: Cuttino Mobley
As starter most of his career, Mobley will be a great 6th man coming off the bench for me. He is the first penetrating guard/wingman I've taken since the first round, so he fits a need there. He can finish, shoot the three at a decent clip, hit his free throws, get some steals, and even averaged nearly a half a block per game for his career, very good for his position. Though defense is not a strength, Cuttino does have two double digit d-win share seasons on his resume, and he, not Maggete, often covers the best wing scorer on the opposing team. As with the rest of my team, he has stayed healthy throughout his career, so I can expect him to provide offensive energy for the duration of the league.
Seven picks into the draft, I am happy with the variety of lineups I can throw out there including a more defensive oriented one of Sammy, Herb, Rashard, Kobe, Hinrich, and maybe my favorite, an ultra small, up tempo style with Big Al, Rashard, Kobe, Cat, and Hinrich that will be very hard to defend against.
Team so far:
Kobe Bryant - SG
Al Jefferson - PF
Rashard Lewis - SF
Samuel Dalembert - C
Kirk Hinrich - PG
Herb Williams - C/PF
Cuttino Mobley - SG
As starter most of his career, Mobley will be a great 6th man coming off the bench for me. He is the first penetrating guard/wingman I've taken since the first round, so he fits a need there. He can finish, shoot the three at a decent clip, hit his free throws, get some steals, and even averaged nearly a half a block per game for his career, very good for his position. Though defense is not a strength, Cuttino does have two double digit d-win share seasons on his resume, and he, not Maggete, often covers the best wing scorer on the opposing team. As with the rest of my team, he has stayed healthy throughout his career, so I can expect him to provide offensive energy for the duration of the league.
Seven picks into the draft, I am happy with the variety of lineups I can throw out there including a more defensive oriented one of Sammy, Herb, Rashard, Kobe, Hinrich, and maybe my favorite, an ultra small, up tempo style with Big Al, Rashard, Kobe, Cat, and Hinrich that will be very hard to defend against.
Team so far:
Kobe Bryant - SG
Al Jefferson - PF
Rashard Lewis - SF
Samuel Dalembert - C
Kirk Hinrich - PG
Herb Williams - C/PF
Cuttino Mobley - SG
07-03-2008
, 04:10 AM
Round #7 / Pick 269 via LurchySoprano: Nene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0JBqMiIsAQ
Nene is a unique player for many, many reasons. First, he has only one name*! Second, to go along w/ his one name, he only has one ball too - he had to have one removed due to a benign testicular tumor. Third, he is a Brazilian player who is not known for flopping, and on the contrary, is actually known for his toughness! *Nene actually does have a real name, which is Maybyner Rodney Hilario, but we'll just call him Nene - I'll do what I've done with everyone else, which is to list his basketball accomplishments, show his stats, and explain his role for my team.
Team BobboFitos
PG - Terrell Brandon (5'11)
SG - Andrew Toney (6'3), Danny Ainge (6'4)
SF - Eddie Jones (6'6), Bryon Russell (6'7)
PF - Derrick Coleman (6'10), Nene (6'11)
C - Shaquille O'Neal (7'1)
Nene is a 6'11/260 lbs. PF/C (he fits with my "heavy" frontline of Shaq & DC!) from Sao Carlos, Brazil. Nene is still currently active in what will be his 7th season (he entered the league as a 20 year old) and has actually played professional basketball longer than that. (They are "professional" at a young age outside of America!) Nene has been with the Denver Nuggets for his entire career, and has yet to receive any honors like All-Star Games or All-Defensive teams. (Although he made the 1st All-Rookie team!) As a rookie through his 24th year, Nene has been fairly consistent with a 15.5, 14.8, and 15.6 PER mark - his "breakout season" was his the year before last, as a 24 year old, where he put up a 17.8 PER to go along w/ his 113 ORtg and 104 DRtg. Clearly I hope that's the player I'm getting - even still, his 15.6 career PER and 105 ORtg/101 DRtg are nothing to be ashamed of. In fact, the 101 career DRtg is very impressive - I will not be starting Nene, but rather will use him as a boost for "big man energy" off the bench. Similar to Toney's role for my guards, that's how I forsee using Nene. I also may use some him instead of DC in some defensive-oriented lineups, although DC is no slouch on the defensive end either.
I want to hit on the intangibles that I get w/ Nene, since they are pretty important. For one, he's great in the locker room. Everyone loves him! But that's not what people want to hear about. Rather, he has been plagued by both injuries and cancer. His rookie year he played 80 games, then 77, then 55, then... 1. Yes, as a 23 year old, he blew his ACL and "boom" was done for the year. However, he rebounded the following year, when I get him, came back a little after the start, managed to play 64 games, and that's when he put up massive numbers. Last season he only played 16 games due to cancer, not because of any recurring ankle, knee, muscle, etc. stuff. It's worth noting he's also been able to play 27.5 mpg for his career, so even though people say he's "overweight," this in no way impacts his stamina. Getting back to missing games, I know he does not have a perfect bill of health, but I don't think any injury is a nagging one so it shouldnt impact his performance. The second key part is his cancer: Clearly this is a "freak" injury (and luckily for his sake it was benign in real life anyway) so by no means should he miss a season (or, most of a season) due to cancer treatment.
Defensively, Nene is very strong and big and has the height and quickness to guard either the 4 or 5. This is perfect, since he'll be my major rotation player to sub in for Shaq or DC, depending on personal fouls. I likely will pair Nene with Shaq when I need my best defensive frontline, but during crunch time I don't think Nene will be on the floor. (64.6% FT doesn't do it for me) In terms of boxscore stats, Nene has incredibly quick hands, averaging almost 2 a game per 36 mins. He also gets about a block a game. He fouls a normal amount (4.5 per 36) so it's nothing to worry about, especially as he'll only get ~24 mpg with me. It's worth noting his steal and block metrics have steadily increased with age - he hasn't hit his peak yet!
Offensively, Nene will generally be my 4th or 5th option on the floor. He is athletic enough to finish off passes (check his highlight real) but isn't known as a good midrange shooter. He has a decent post game, but with DC and Shaq paired with him, I just can't see feeding him the ball too often. For whatever it's worth, his usage is 18.4% career-wise, which is about what I see him for my team. (Oh, now is a good time to drop the fact he has a career .568 TS mark!) He is also a solid rebounder, grabbing 11.8 per 36 his past season. The last thing to note is Nene draws a LOT of fouls, which is something I've been interested in since I started drafting. Nene gets to the line 5.5 times per 36 mins, which is above average, and quite sexy - teams will be in severe foul trouble against me.
Going back to my overall philosophy (balance) I think Nene at this spot offers me a very good defensive big off the bench, a guy that can play either the 4 or 5 with ease, and will bring the intensity night in and out. Nene does a decent job forcing TOs and can finish on the break as well (hey, the Nuggets are fast pace and he does fine!) so clearly he's capable of that, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0JBqMiIsAQ
Nene is a unique player for many, many reasons. First, he has only one name*! Second, to go along w/ his one name, he only has one ball too - he had to have one removed due to a benign testicular tumor. Third, he is a Brazilian player who is not known for flopping, and on the contrary, is actually known for his toughness! *Nene actually does have a real name, which is Maybyner Rodney Hilario, but we'll just call him Nene - I'll do what I've done with everyone else, which is to list his basketball accomplishments, show his stats, and explain his role for my team.
Team BobboFitos
PG - Terrell Brandon (5'11)
SG - Andrew Toney (6'3), Danny Ainge (6'4)
SF - Eddie Jones (6'6), Bryon Russell (6'7)
PF - Derrick Coleman (6'10), Nene (6'11)
C - Shaquille O'Neal (7'1)
Nene is a 6'11/260 lbs. PF/C (he fits with my "heavy" frontline of Shaq & DC!) from Sao Carlos, Brazil. Nene is still currently active in what will be his 7th season (he entered the league as a 20 year old) and has actually played professional basketball longer than that. (They are "professional" at a young age outside of America!) Nene has been with the Denver Nuggets for his entire career, and has yet to receive any honors like All-Star Games or All-Defensive teams. (Although he made the 1st All-Rookie team!) As a rookie through his 24th year, Nene has been fairly consistent with a 15.5, 14.8, and 15.6 PER mark - his "breakout season" was his the year before last, as a 24 year old, where he put up a 17.8 PER to go along w/ his 113 ORtg and 104 DRtg. Clearly I hope that's the player I'm getting - even still, his 15.6 career PER and 105 ORtg/101 DRtg are nothing to be ashamed of. In fact, the 101 career DRtg is very impressive - I will not be starting Nene, but rather will use him as a boost for "big man energy" off the bench. Similar to Toney's role for my guards, that's how I forsee using Nene. I also may use some him instead of DC in some defensive-oriented lineups, although DC is no slouch on the defensive end either.
I want to hit on the intangibles that I get w/ Nene, since they are pretty important. For one, he's great in the locker room. Everyone loves him! But that's not what people want to hear about. Rather, he has been plagued by both injuries and cancer. His rookie year he played 80 games, then 77, then 55, then... 1. Yes, as a 23 year old, he blew his ACL and "boom" was done for the year. However, he rebounded the following year, when I get him, came back a little after the start, managed to play 64 games, and that's when he put up massive numbers. Last season he only played 16 games due to cancer, not because of any recurring ankle, knee, muscle, etc. stuff. It's worth noting he's also been able to play 27.5 mpg for his career, so even though people say he's "overweight," this in no way impacts his stamina. Getting back to missing games, I know he does not have a perfect bill of health, but I don't think any injury is a nagging one so it shouldnt impact his performance. The second key part is his cancer: Clearly this is a "freak" injury (and luckily for his sake it was benign in real life anyway) so by no means should he miss a season (or, most of a season) due to cancer treatment.
Defensively, Nene is very strong and big and has the height and quickness to guard either the 4 or 5. This is perfect, since he'll be my major rotation player to sub in for Shaq or DC, depending on personal fouls. I likely will pair Nene with Shaq when I need my best defensive frontline, but during crunch time I don't think Nene will be on the floor. (64.6% FT doesn't do it for me) In terms of boxscore stats, Nene has incredibly quick hands, averaging almost 2 a game per 36 mins. He also gets about a block a game. He fouls a normal amount (4.5 per 36) so it's nothing to worry about, especially as he'll only get ~24 mpg with me. It's worth noting his steal and block metrics have steadily increased with age - he hasn't hit his peak yet!
Offensively, Nene will generally be my 4th or 5th option on the floor. He is athletic enough to finish off passes (check his highlight real) but isn't known as a good midrange shooter. He has a decent post game, but with DC and Shaq paired with him, I just can't see feeding him the ball too often. For whatever it's worth, his usage is 18.4% career-wise, which is about what I see him for my team. (Oh, now is a good time to drop the fact he has a career .568 TS mark!) He is also a solid rebounder, grabbing 11.8 per 36 his past season. The last thing to note is Nene draws a LOT of fouls, which is something I've been interested in since I started drafting. Nene gets to the line 5.5 times per 36 mins, which is above average, and quite sexy - teams will be in severe foul trouble against me.
Going back to my overall philosophy (balance) I think Nene at this spot offers me a very good defensive big off the bench, a guy that can play either the 4 or 5 with ease, and will bring the intensity night in and out. Nene does a decent job forcing TOs and can finish on the break as well (hey, the Nuggets are fast pace and he does fine!) so clearly he's capable of that, too.
07-03-2008
, 11:29 AM
Round 7, Pick 272
Mo Williams PG
http://thebratwurst.com/wp-content/u...mosinferno.jpg
More later, but Mo is a great fit for my team. Got the defensive stopper Mookie starting and Mo can be a great offensive catalyst for the second unit. Shoots 3's at a very good rate for a PG, and gives me yet another outside threat to work around my bigs.
At 26 this year, his 24 and 25 year old seasons have shown continued improvement, with a very nice TS% of 56.6% last year, and a 3% of 38.5% last year, mirroring the 38.2% he shot at 23yo. In addition, his PER has also improved every year he's been in the league, peaking at 17.0 last year, which is solid value at this point in the draft.
I think he fits in very well with my team, allowing me to do matchups when needed and can even play a little 2 guard in a pinch if we have to.
Current Roster
PG: Mookie Blaylock/Mo Williams
SG: Allan Houston/Del Curry
SF: Caron Butler
PF: Larry Nance
C: Patrick Ewing
Mo Williams PG
http://thebratwurst.com/wp-content/u...mosinferno.jpg
More later, but Mo is a great fit for my team. Got the defensive stopper Mookie starting and Mo can be a great offensive catalyst for the second unit. Shoots 3's at a very good rate for a PG, and gives me yet another outside threat to work around my bigs.
At 26 this year, his 24 and 25 year old seasons have shown continued improvement, with a very nice TS% of 56.6% last year, and a 3% of 38.5% last year, mirroring the 38.2% he shot at 23yo. In addition, his PER has also improved every year he's been in the league, peaking at 17.0 last year, which is solid value at this point in the draft.
I think he fits in very well with my team, allowing me to do matchups when needed and can even play a little 2 guard in a pinch if we have to.
Current Roster
PG: Mookie Blaylock/Mo Williams
SG: Allan Houston/Del Curry
SF: Caron Butler
PF: Larry Nance
C: Patrick Ewing
Last edited by ClarkNasty; 07-03-2008 at 11:36 AM.
07-03-2008
, 12:08 PM
Round 7, Pick 273: F-C Wayman Tisdale
Wayman is awesome in many ways. First off, look at that hair! Secondly, he's one of the sports musicians out there - better than Bernie Williams, but probably not as good as Rick Carlisle or Peter Gammons. Finally, he's got an awesome name.
On to basketball related matters, Wayman was one of the last great scorers left. He had consistently high usage rates with consistently low turnover rates, and an above average TS%. He even managed to score 22 PPG when he was 25, and that was at a pretty good TS (.565). The list of guys left who have scored 20 PPG in any given year at an above average efficiency is very, very small. In other areas, he's not a very good passer or defender, but he rebounds well enough. He's kind of the anti-AC Green. He can create his own shot and score very well, but he doesn't stand out in any other area.
I expect Wayman to come off the bench and play the minutes at the 4/5 that A.C. Green and Robinson can't play. Should either one of them go down (lol), Tisdale can step in and do a good enough job as a starter to get me through it. Should one of my wing players go down, Green can shift over to the 3 and Tisdale can step in at the 4 - ah, the wonders of versatility.
Some relevant stats:
Age 24 (with IND): 16.0 PPG, 6.5 REB, .570 TS%
Age 24 (with SAC): 19.8 PPG, 9.6 REB, .565 TS%
Age 25: 22.3 PPG, 7.5 REB, .565 TS%
Age 26: 20 PPG, 7.7 REB, .535 TS%
Age 27: 16.6 PPG, 6.5 REB, .529 TS%
Age 28: 16.7 PPG, 7.1 REB, .540 TS%
Career: 15 PPF, 6.1 REB, .543 TS% (15.7 PER)
Team so far:
PG: Terry Porter
SG: Mark Aguirre
SF: Derrick McKey
PF: A.C. Green
C: David Robinson
SG/SF: Kyle Korver
PF/C: Wayman Tisdale
Wayman is awesome in many ways. First off, look at that hair! Secondly, he's one of the sports musicians out there - better than Bernie Williams, but probably not as good as Rick Carlisle or Peter Gammons. Finally, he's got an awesome name.
On to basketball related matters, Wayman was one of the last great scorers left. He had consistently high usage rates with consistently low turnover rates, and an above average TS%. He even managed to score 22 PPG when he was 25, and that was at a pretty good TS (.565). The list of guys left who have scored 20 PPG in any given year at an above average efficiency is very, very small. In other areas, he's not a very good passer or defender, but he rebounds well enough. He's kind of the anti-AC Green. He can create his own shot and score very well, but he doesn't stand out in any other area.
I expect Wayman to come off the bench and play the minutes at the 4/5 that A.C. Green and Robinson can't play. Should either one of them go down (lol), Tisdale can step in and do a good enough job as a starter to get me through it. Should one of my wing players go down, Green can shift over to the 3 and Tisdale can step in at the 4 - ah, the wonders of versatility.
Some relevant stats:
Age 24 (with IND): 16.0 PPG, 6.5 REB, .570 TS%
Age 24 (with SAC): 19.8 PPG, 9.6 REB, .565 TS%
Age 25: 22.3 PPG, 7.5 REB, .565 TS%
Age 26: 20 PPG, 7.7 REB, .535 TS%
Age 27: 16.6 PPG, 6.5 REB, .529 TS%
Age 28: 16.7 PPG, 7.1 REB, .540 TS%
Career: 15 PPF, 6.1 REB, .543 TS% (15.7 PER)
Team so far:
PG: Terry Porter
SG: Mark Aguirre
SF: Derrick McKey
PF: A.C. Green
C: David Robinson
SG/SF: Kyle Korver
PF/C: Wayman Tisdale
07-06-2008
, 03:41 PM
Round 7 Pick 274 G - Craig Hodges
I'll bring Hodges off the bench to spot up and hit some big Threeeeeeeeeeeees ! I'll also petition the NBA to change to a red/white/blue ball so that Hodges will always think he's in the 3 point shootout thus never missing.
My Team...
Hakeem
Glenn Rice
Lamar Odom
David West
Rod Strickland
Jalen Rose
Craig Hodges
I'll bring Hodges off the bench to spot up and hit some big Threeeeeeeeeeeees ! I'll also petition the NBA to change to a red/white/blue ball so that Hodges will always think he's in the 3 point shootout thus never missing.
My Team...
Hakeem
Glenn Rice
Lamar Odom
David West
Rod Strickland
Jalen Rose
Craig Hodges
07-06-2008
, 04:51 PM
Round 7, Pick 276 - PF/SF Donyell Marshall
I wanted a PF type of guy who could provide some offense off the bench. Donyell fills the need perfectly. He can either sub in for Dale/Vlade and play alongside Larry but he's also versatile enough to play the SF. Whatever, it's all good.
Let's get the bad stuff out of the way. He wasn't that good at first. Mainly, he shot poorly. From everywhere. However, have a look at the teams he came into the league under. Drafted by an awful Minny squad (where JR Rider was the "man") and traded to an awful Golden State team. The GS teams just didn't fit for him. Fast paced no D chucker ball where the old guard of Hardaway/Mullin were on their way out and guys like Latrell were the new face. Just awful. Once he got traded to Utah, he became a whole new player. I don't think this is a coincidence. Lucky for me, though, is that the first 3 years of his career are tossed in this format.
Anyway, he went on to become a very productive player post-Golden State. A solid shooter (3rd in FG% in '02) with 3pt range, a very good defender and rebounder who's not afraid to bang. This is a guy who can play extended minutes in case of injury, but as the first big off the bench is probably looking at ~25 mpg, where I can expect 10/6 out of him with a block to boot.
Don't feel like typing out stats in a way to impress you all. A career 11/7 guy with close to a block and a steal per game. 35% 3pt shooter, though it's 36% from age 24 on. Check the link for impressive rebound %s and whatnot. Oh and he's pretty durable.
Stats at b-ref
Team so far:
PG - Sam Cassell
SG - John Starks
SF - Larry Legend
PF - Dale Davis
C - Vlade
bench:
SG - Ricky Pierce
PF/SF - Donyell Marshall
I wanted a PF type of guy who could provide some offense off the bench. Donyell fills the need perfectly. He can either sub in for Dale/Vlade and play alongside Larry but he's also versatile enough to play the SF. Whatever, it's all good.
Let's get the bad stuff out of the way. He wasn't that good at first. Mainly, he shot poorly. From everywhere. However, have a look at the teams he came into the league under. Drafted by an awful Minny squad (where JR Rider was the "man") and traded to an awful Golden State team. The GS teams just didn't fit for him. Fast paced no D chucker ball where the old guard of Hardaway/Mullin were on their way out and guys like Latrell were the new face. Just awful. Once he got traded to Utah, he became a whole new player. I don't think this is a coincidence. Lucky for me, though, is that the first 3 years of his career are tossed in this format.
Anyway, he went on to become a very productive player post-Golden State. A solid shooter (3rd in FG% in '02) with 3pt range, a very good defender and rebounder who's not afraid to bang. This is a guy who can play extended minutes in case of injury, but as the first big off the bench is probably looking at ~25 mpg, where I can expect 10/6 out of him with a block to boot.
Don't feel like typing out stats in a way to impress you all. A career 11/7 guy with close to a block and a steal per game. 35% 3pt shooter, though it's 36% from age 24 on. Check the link for impressive rebound %s and whatnot. Oh and he's pretty durable.
Stats at b-ref
Team so far:
PG - Sam Cassell
SG - John Starks
SF - Larry Legend
PF - Dale Davis
C - Vlade
bench:
SG - Ricky Pierce
PF/SF - Donyell Marshall