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View Poll Results: Who's winning?
Heat in 4 11 9.24%
Heat in 5 34 28.57%
Heat in 6 21 17.65%
Heat in 7 6 5.04%
C's in 4 4 3.36%
C's in 5 0 0%
C's in 6 11 9.24%
C's in 7 8 6.72%
Heat in negative infinity 8 6.72%
lol East 16 13.45%
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:43 AM   #5101
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Re: NBA ECF: Heat vs Celtics

like any prudent evaluator skip will likely take a wait and see approach, of course you can't hate on labron's game 6
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:20 AM   #5102
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i mean loliggy boston has a great chance to win if the heat (outside labron ofc) play like they did today offensively. defensively their rotations were great, battier especially seemed very active altho he had some lolflops. but wade was horrible again, bosh airballed like a wide open 8 footer. as a team they were 18-50 from the field if you ignore lebrons FGA.

how far can lebron carry this team? theyre definitely not beating okc if wade doesnt play better/they dont get better performances from role players. especially if this is what theyre gonna get from bosh.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:14 AM   #5103
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Re: NBA ECF: Heat vs Celtics



not yesterday you wasn't

Keep it classy, Boston fans btw lol

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Old 06-08-2012, 08:35 AM   #5104
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i'm shocked that wade didn't start crying for his mother right there and then, kinda sickens me that such a weak willed person exists on this planet. humanity is ****ed
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:31 AM   #5105
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i'm absolutely mesmerised by that gif for some reason, just checking every single person's face for a reaction. i wish it was a second or two longer.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:09 AM   #5106
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I don't get why everyone says Lebron will finally silence his critics if he wins a championship. I think at this point, most of his "haters" dislike him for his douchey demeanor off the court rather than anything he does on it. No criticism of his game really holds that much water.

I'm sure winning a ring will give him immense personal satisfaction, and his fans and Heat fans will be happy, but his "haters," myself included, will go right on disliking him. I do think it would be really funny to see him get really close every year but continue to fail ala Karl Malone, though.
I agree that the haters will not care and keep going on hating. However, the critics is who we're talking about here, which is different. There are many (myself included) that believe that Lebron just doesn't have that clutch gift that many of the greats before him have had. He tends to choke in clutch situations (not entire games but the last seconds of games). If he's able to make a few really big shots in key, final play, situations, in a final, I think that will silence most of the critics.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:10 AM   #5107
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the ball thrown in dwyane looked like a genuine mistake from just a fat biz dude w/ no athletic skills and a limp wrist. no beef there, was actually pretty funny. and the crowd seemed like they were more shocked then pumped that he got hit for whatever reason. it like barely grazed his head.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:12 AM   #5108
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I haven't read most of responses on last nights game but I would hazard to guess there are many that are counting the C's out. My feelings are this:

1.) The C's have shown time and time again that they show up for these big games. They play the absolute best when they have to.

2.) Lebron is not going to shoot as well as he did last night.

3.) Pierce and Garnett are not going to shoot as poorly as they did last night.

4.) Rondo is not going to make as many mistakes as he did last night.

I like the C's in game seven (of course, I'm a celtics fan so no surprise there).
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:13 AM   #5109
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the ball thrown in dwyane looked like a genuine mistake from just a fat biz dude w/ no athletic skills and a limp wrist. no beef there, was actually pretty funny. and the crowd seemed like they were more shocked then pumped that he got hit for whatever reason. it like barely grazed his head.
I agree. I don't think it was intentional.

However, even it was, who cares really? People need to chill out. It's funny as hell if it was intentional.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:19 AM   #5110
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Game 6 set another ratings record at 8.2
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:20 AM   #5111
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Stephen a smith: "playing a whole game and getting 30/10 is standard and what we expect from lebron. who cares what he can do in a whole game were looking for the last minute. he's still not a closer"

Skip nods head furiously.

Nice that's nice
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:22 AM   #5112
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not yesterday you wasn't

Keep it classy, Boston fans btw lol

How would this rate against that yankeesdouchefan.gif

someone post it plz thx
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:27 AM   #5113
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yankeefan.gif is the wire and celticfan.gif isn't even true blood
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:00 AM   #5114
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He tends to choke in clutch situations (not entire games but the last seconds of games).
Not really. Yes he had a horrible Finals last year but the guy has hit all kinds of clutch shots and come through down the stretch in every way multiple times in the playoffs with Cleveland and even in his short time in Miami.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:03 AM   #5115
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Not really. Yes he had a horrible Finals last year but the guy has hit all kinds of clutch shots and come through down the stretch in every way multiple times in the playoffs with Cleveland and even in his short time in Miami.
I'll be honest, I haven't watched every playoff game he's played but he's had a chance to win two games in this series and has failed to do so and I think there was a stat they gave last night that talked about his terrible shooting in game winning situations.

He certainly doesn't have the clutch resume that folks like Jordan, Bird and Magic have.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:06 AM   #5116
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I'll be honest, I haven't watched every playoff game he's played but he's had a chance to win two games in this series and has failed to do so and I think there was a stat they gave last night that talked about his terrible shooting in game winning situations.

He certainly doesn't have the clutch resume that folks like Jordan, Bird and Magic have.
he failed to win one because he hit the game tying 3pointer a few seconds earlier, what a chocker
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:08 AM   #5117
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he failed to win one because he hit the game tying 3pointer a few seconds earlier, what a chocker
So, now game tying = Game winning? Huh?

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Old 06-08-2012, 11:10 AM   #5118
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Goodie itt
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are you like senile too goody? that would explain alot
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Who won that game? I can't remember.
is that your way of admiting defeat?
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:21 AM   #5121
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He certainly doesn't have the clutch resume that folks like Jordan, Bird and Magic have.
Maybe not exactly but it's a lot closer than you think.

If you take the first 7 playoff seasons of each guy Lebron compares quite favorably in the # of clutch playoff performances / moments.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:24 AM   #5122
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lolboston and all but the 4.75-1 for boston does seem like pretty good value. game 4 was not the kind of game that made me think miami is just a far superior team who can switch it on. celts missed everything, got no oboards for most of the game, and had some dumb turnovers. while heat ran pretty nice on jumpers and just generally had their **** together

think boston are more like 25-30% to win g7 than the 21% those odds imply. altho that said they've been running hot all series so my perception of what's reasonable for them in the four factors is prob skewed. reg season numbers certainly would've predicted more game6 type games from boston in this series
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:25 AM   #5123
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I agree that the haters will not care and keep going on hating. However, the critics is who we're talking about here, which is different. There are many (myself included) that believe that Lebron just doesn't have that clutch gift that many of the greats before him have had. He tends to choke in clutch situations (not entire games but the last seconds of games). If he's able to make a few really big shots in key, final play, situations, in a final, I think that will silence most of the critics.
So if he does manage to make a few of these big, high variance shots, what will you conclude? That he finally learned how to be clutch? Or that you have been a moron the whole time?

Sick strategy say that he can't win until he does win at which point he can win. Good stuff
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:30 AM   #5124
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So if he does manage to make a few of these big, high variance shots, what will you conclude? That he finally learned how to be clutch? Or that you have been a moron the whole time?
Finally learned how to be clutch. Obviously.

It's not for lack of opportunity. Listen, the guy is an amazing player but the non-clutch stigma he's carried hasn't come out of no where. It's not like I'm the only one that thinks this. It's a pretty common belief.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:32 AM   #5125
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lolboston and all but the 4.75-1 for boston does seem like pretty good value. game 4 was not the kind of game that made me think miami is just a far superior team who can switch it on. celts missed everything, got no oboards for most of the game, and had some dumb turnovers. while heat ran pretty nice on jumpers and just generally had their **** together

think boston are more like 25-30% to win g7 than the 21% those odds imply. altho that said they've been running hot all series so my perception of what's reasonable for them in the four factors is prob skewed. reg season numbers certainly would've predicted more game6 type games from boston in this series
No f'ing way the Celtics are 21% to win this game. No way. They literally JUST beat this team on their court THREE f'ing days ago in an game that was almost as important. That's just insanity.
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