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cavs in 4 6 6.90%
cavs in 5 25 28.74%
cavs in 6 25 28.74%
cavs in 7 7 8.05%
celts in 4 2 2.30%
celts in 5 2 2.30%
celts in 6 8 9.20%
celts in 7 12 13.79%
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Old 05-10-2010, 09:35 AM   #1676
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Re: NBA Eastern Conference Playoffs: Cavaliers vs Celtics

I guess I think it's going to be a stretch to make it. I want to see how he does in the post KG/Pierce/Ray era.
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Old 05-10-2010, 09:37 AM   #1677
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hof type talent does not equal lock for the hof

he def could make it, i agree it will come down to how he does once the big 3 era is over but i suspect ainge being a good gm will continue to find ways to give us good pieces around rondo (altho obv not as good as the big 3). not to mention boston ownership willing to spend over the cap always helps as well.
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Old 05-10-2010, 09:42 AM   #1678
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Rondo is good but this is homer-licious.


Nope - just an opportunity to point out that Heinsohn sees the game better than some folks give him credit for.

I, for one, was scoffing at Heinsohn assessment during year two.

Heinsohn was much closer to the target than I was.

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Old 05-10-2010, 10:00 AM   #1679
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Re: NBA Eastern Conference Playoffs: Cavaliers vs Celtics

Where does Rondo rank among NBA PGs right now?
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:08 AM   #1680
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Nope - just an opportunity to point out that Heinsohn sees the game better than some folks give him credit for.

I, for one, was scoffing at Heinsohn assessment during year two.

Heinsohn was much closer to the target than I was.
oh come on sailorsaint, u obv know heinsohn makes ton of homerific statements about pretty much all of our young guys and even vets, just cause he was right on rondo (and to some extent big al/perk) doesn't really mean anything considering hes wrong on tons more of our young guys
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:10 AM   #1681
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i don't think it's a stretch at all to say he has hof type talent, hes also only 24
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:20 AM   #1682
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yea looking at bball ref for players age under the season stuff is really dumb and i need to stop doing it
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:21 AM   #1683
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Where does Rondo rank among NBA PGs right now?
1. CP3
2. Deron
3. Nash
4. Rondo?

Gap

5. Kidd?
6. Billups
7. Rose

Not really sure after that: Nelson, Felton, Miller, Harris, Westbrook, jennings, Curry, Williams are probably all in the discussion.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:47 AM   #1684
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Back it up with some kind of stat.

A ref standing within 5-7 feet called it, then another standing about 15-18 ft away, changed it. No matter who you root for, it's kind of absurd.
This really is the end of the conversation. It was mind boggling! We have seen terrible calls were the ref who makes the call is pretty much apologizing the second after he makes it and yet there is no overturn on the call.

In this case we had a ref who was pretty much out of the play overrule a ref who was right in the thick of it on a call that should have never been questioned regardless if it was correct or not.

TNT and ESPN are pretty not allowed to question calls made by officials. You'll often hear them say "that was a tough call". The only guy really saying anything about just how bad the refs are is Jeff Van Gundy and even he is a bit restrained.

If a coach or player questions the ref he is fined and his comments aren't taken seriously by the league.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:53 AM   #1685
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1. CP3
2. Deron
3. Nash
4. Rondo?

Gap

5. Kidd?
6. Billups
7. Rose

Not really sure after that: Nelson, Felton, Miller, Harris, Westbrook, jennings, Curry, Williams are probably all in the discussion.
felton sucks imo
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:58 AM   #1686
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felton sucks imo
def did against jameer. lol
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:03 PM   #1687
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Rondo will need to develop something resembling a shot if he wants to end up in HOF territory. The rest of the skills are obviously there. But, if he can keep opposing defenses even a little honest with his shot, he becomes so much harder to defend.
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:24 PM   #1688
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1. CP3
2. Deron
3. Nash
4. Rondo?

Gap

5. Kidd?
6. Billups
7. Rose

Not really sure after that: Nelson, Felton, Miller, Harris, Westbrook, jennings, Curry, Williams are probably all in the discussion.
I'd put Billups ahead of Kidd. Maybe even Rose, who doesn't play with near the amount of offensive talent that Kidd does. Felton and Miller wouldn't even make the list, and I'm not sure which Williams that is.
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:57 PM   #1689
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Rondo will need to develop something resembling a shot if he wants to end up in HOF territory. The rest of the skills are obviously there. But, if he can keep opposing defenses even a little honest with his shot, he becomes so much harder to defend.
Kidd was making the hall even if his DAL transformation never happened.
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:28 PM   #1690
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sick performance by rondo.

he got game

epipe,

thanks for not taking my cavs action.

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Old 05-10-2010, 01:28 PM   #1691
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This really is the end of the conversation. It was mind boggling! We have seen terrible calls were the ref who makes the call is pretty much apologizing the second after he makes it and yet there is no overturn on the call.

In this case we had a ref who was pretty much out of the play overrule a ref who was right in the thick of it on a call that should have never been questioned regardless if it was correct or not.

TNT and ESPN are pretty not allowed to question calls made by officials. You'll often hear them say "that was a tough call". The only guy really saying anything about just how bad the refs are is Jeff Van Gundy and even he is a bit restrained.

If a coach or player questions the ref he is fined and his comments aren't taken seriously by the league.
lol at u.
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lol at u.
lol @ "conspiracy theory" that nba DOESN'T want LBJ/Cavs to make/win Finals.
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:39 PM   #1693
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lol at ur reading comprehension
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:40 PM   #1694
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I'd put Billups ahead of Kidd. Maybe even Rose, who doesn't play with near the amount of offensive talent that Kidd does. Felton and Miller wouldn't even make the list, and I'm not sure which Williams that is.
Not sure about Felton or Miller either. That's why I didn't have anyone after 8. Just mentioned guys who could be put into the equation. The Williams I'm referring to is Mo Williams.
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:42 PM   #1695
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Kidd was making the hall even if his DAL transformation never happened.
I feel like we've gone over this a million times this year. Kidd was still a ~33% 3 point shooter pre-Dallas. That's plenty good enough to provide somewhat of a threat. Rondo is at 25%. That's not.
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Old 05-10-2010, 02:07 PM   #1696
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rondo's 25% with most of his attempts coming at shot clock bailouts.

I'm not calling Rondo Kidd, though I think he's probably Rondo's "most similar at age" comparison, nor do I think he's a favorite to make the hall. But he's not a huge dog either.
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Old 05-10-2010, 02:19 PM   #1697
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i think rajon rondo, barring injury, will be in the basketball hall of fame.
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victor is a psychopath
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In an endearingly entertaining sort of way.

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Old 05-10-2010, 03:18 PM   #1700
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In an endearingly, entertaining sort of way.
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I like him, regardless of what he says. Pretty funny guy
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