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cavs in 4 6 6.90%
cavs in 5 25 28.74%
cavs in 6 25 28.74%
cavs in 7 7 8.05%
celts in 4 2 2.30%
celts in 5 2 2.30%
celts in 6 8 9.20%
celts in 7 12 13.79%
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Old 05-07-2010, 02:43 PM   #1201
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i dont know whats more incredibly tilting the people that use the phrase 'best closer in the game' to describe kobe or the haters that always immidiately link that ****in 82games chart as if a sample size of 50 shots all of a sudden means something when it supports your argument
well clutch doesnt exist. that chart is just there to prove the point that kobe isnt some last minute super being.
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:07 PM   #1202
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i dont know whats more incredibly tilting the people that use the phrase 'best closer in the game' to describe kobe or the haters that always immidiately link that ****in 82games chart as if a sample size of 50 shots all of a sudden means something when it supports your argument
lol wat?

It's not like its 50 shots of his 2,000 total.

It's all his shots in the "closing" and "clutch" situations. It's all the data he has. And he says he is mediocre at it.

Sorries but actually show me something showing he closes out games better than LBJ before you bring this **** in here. Obviously he can right the ship and make his next 40 game winners. Then he would be a way better closer, deservedly so. The 50 could be unlucky. But as of now, he isn't a better "closer" than LBJ, no matter how much it seems like he is.
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:08 PM   #1203
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well clutch doesnt exist. that chart is just there to prove the point that kobe isnt some last minute super being.
Yup, although it is semantics as well. I consider the fact that the top superstars in the league average like 50ppg(extrapolated) in those situations to be "clutch." But its also really just playing to their potential, when they couldn't do it all game as they would be dead on their feet by the end. So it's not really clutch, but they do play at a different level, so it is kinda clutch..etc
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:15 PM   #1204
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Re: NBA Eastern Conference Playoffs: Cavaliers vs Celtics

I was going to write a long post but instead I will just say that. In order to win a championship in the NBA you really need guys grabbing rebounds, blocking shots and doing other things that don't require them to have the ball in their hands 50 to 60 times a game. I know Kobe and Lebron are good on defense but if they don't get a certain amount of touches on the offensive end it will be hard for the Lakers, and the Cavs to win games. An example is that Bynum, Gasol, and Odom don't need to score or even touch the ball a lot on offense to help the team win. They need to score but there are few if anybody that's better than Kobe as far as scoring.
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:18 PM   #1205
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kobe has pwned on game winners this year. those numbers are way outdated.
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:20 PM   #1206
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kobe has pwned on game winners this year. those numbers are way outdated.
Most definitely has.

Especially on his last one
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Old 05-07-2010, 04:02 PM   #1207
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BOS is -1 tonight. What would be the spread if Lebron was 100% healthy. Cavs -2?

last night the line was clev -1.
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Old 05-07-2010, 04:39 PM   #1208
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well ill be at the garden tonight to see lolbron
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Old 05-07-2010, 05:30 PM   #1209
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Rumor has it - Bennett Salvatore in the house tonight.
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Old 05-07-2010, 05:57 PM   #1210
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:02 PM   #1211
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Bump. Which Lebron will show up tonight? Which Rasheed will show up tonight? Which Victor will show up tonight? GO CAVS
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:06 PM   #1212
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Bump. Which Lebron will show up tonight? Which Rasheed will show up tonight? Which Victor will show up tonight? GO CAVS
What is this game-related post doing here? Am I not on the ESPN comments page?
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:06 PM   #1213
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Bump. Which Lebron will show up tonight? Which Rasheed will show up tonight? Which Victor will show up tonight? GO CAVS
Not exactly sure what the answer is, but the Cavs need to do something about Rondo to have a chance.
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:08 PM   #1214
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Cleveland @ Boston: Bennett Salvatore Ken Mauer Zach Zarba

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What is this game-related post doing here? Am I not on the ESPN comments page?
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:08 PM   #1216
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big game...go cleveland!

(and when you put those two statements together, you usually end up drunk by the end of the night)
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:11 PM   #1217
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:13 PM   #1218
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Get him out. All downhill from here.
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Get him out. All downhill from here.
By the time MB figures out that Powe should be getting every minute he can play, LBJ will already be a Knick.
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:16 PM   #1220
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ridiculous call
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:17 PM   #1222
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god this game is rigged
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contested 20 footer > wide open 3
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K, p in the stands so I can't really tell, but that call on perk was lol awful right? Don't like the reffing creW
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ROFLflagrantfoul
right. lining up a shoulder charge and launching into him is obv legit.
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