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Stumble if you live in AZ why don't you follow the Suns? +Ev imo.

C'mon now. I don't think he's top 10 either, but saying he's "not close" is pretty out there. It implies that you think he's not even in the teens.

not disagreeing with you clark, but you can be a top 19 player and not be close to the top ten.

im gonna make up an acct and pwn all you clowns that think lebron>kobe. its a complete joke.

Agree obv.

The point is that Epi writes stuff like that for effect, but instead makes himself look ridiculous, then he has to backtrack and say, well, I think that #13 isn't close to the top 10. So much easier if he just says what he means up front, but he doesn't, because he's pseudo trolling.

i don't disagree with you guys if you have kobe out side of 10. i was just looking at a list that has him on top 9 and it made sense. I haven't created my own top 10 but i don't think kobe is top 5 or even best Laker ever. But if he wins the title this year he moves up on the list for sure. All I want to know is since kobe is not top 10 is the ringless lebron in top 10?

clark if i thought kobe was #13 i wouldn't have said "wasn't close".

i haven't made a list obv but hes prob around the 15-20 range which imo isn't close to top 10.

if lebron keeps up what hes been doing for say the next 5-10 years and doesn't get better teammates and retires without a ring not only is he top 10 hes easily top 5 and is imo top 2.

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ok then no wonder you have kobe at 15-20. I just wanted to see if you were being reasonable.

in a way, its very fitting to put lebronze at 2.

Well there's one less spot in the top10 for Kobe, because of labron.

nice one

LeBron is already #2.

here is the list that i came across

1.MJ
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Oscar Robertson
8. Julius Erving
9. Kobe
10. Shaq

I would def tweak a lil but I can't see a non-champion in here ever. esp at #2.

i'm not sure which is worse, that list or the fact that u didn't realize that list was terrible

well obv if we are saying "peak only" but longevity has to count a little bit

Well lets see your list. That was the first list I came across but I posted it cause they are all champs. I'd really like to see your list.

i luv that we r having this conv in this thread lol

I don't think his peak has been long enough to put him over Wilt or Shaqs peaks

I think he'll surpass both, but probably needs another 2yrs at current level or so

yeah but i don't blame epip. its the kool aid talkin.

ok, well for one i'll keep lebron off it just cause hes the hardest player to rank ie. hasn't played long enough. but basacally if he doesn't get hurt in the next 5 years hes easily on it and prob top 2.

1. jordan
2. wilt
3. shaq
4. kareem
5. duncan
6. hakeem
7. magic
8. bird
9. drobinson
10. super tough i think those are the clear top 9, it could be a # of guys here ie. kg, barkley, both malones, oscar, stockton etc i'll go with kg tho

was off the top of my head too so i could be forgetting someone obvious

basacally these guys are all super hard to rank and i could see a case for anything out of the top 3 being changed, like u could name anyone from 4-9 and put them at #4 and i couldn't really argue with it.

yeah i don't hate that list. i just assumed you had flown the nest when you anointed lbj #2 with out a ring.

1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Shaq
7. Kobe
8. Erving
9. Duncan
10. Bill Russell

is mine fwiw but i just threw something up. prob will change with more time given.