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cavs in 4 6 6.90%
cavs in 5 25 28.74%
cavs in 6 25 28.74%
cavs in 7 7 8.05%
celts in 4 2 2.30%
celts in 5 2 2.30%
celts in 6 8 9.20%
celts in 7 12 13.79%
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:45 PM   #476
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well, didnt think the cavs would win but the score, and postgame summary, will make it look like they were in control. i dont think they were. it was not easy.

i dont see how im gonna make it thru these playoffs.
At least your center didn't tear his knee apart again.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:45 PM   #477
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it's not just going away from Rondo (this happens EVERY 4th q just about). We also went away from the KG v antawn matchup. It wasn't just Rondo going off in the 1st half. We were getting great looks by posting KG and either letting him go at it or him finding cutters.

So of course, we isol pierce vs a guy that outweighs him, is stronger, and faster. Just a complete joke.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:46 PM   #478
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Lebron got 11 free throws tonight, probably shoulda had around 20. I'm starting to buy the Victor argument.
lol. he makes up for it by committing zero defensive fouls.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:46 PM   #479
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mo williams was wide open and is a good 3pt shooter. shot was fine. they weren't up enough that milking clock was an option, they needed to keep scoring
Believe it or not I don't totally disagree with this. He's definitely a better than average three point shooter and he was wide open. I just feel like in that situation it's still +EV to use up as much clock as possible. Especially when you have a guy as good as LeBron James on your team to take the shot as the clock winds down.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:47 PM   #480
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Wow, at least someone else recognizes this. Every ****ing time he barrels into the lane is a ****ing joke. He knocked pierce down on one play with like 4minutes to go, waht a ****ing joke, then has clear lane for a layup and nobody ever contests. He's such a big fat hunk of trash it's disgusting, no skill whatsoever. How many ****ing times do I hav eto tell people that barreling into the lane and throwing your shoulder out as you do it and getting a ****ing layup is not skillful. It's a joke. Lebron is making a mockery of the league, go play football you idiot.

how do u REALLY feel about it dschmeids?
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:47 PM   #481
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didnt know that lebrn put a 37.4 per last years playoffs. that has to be the best ever.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:47 PM   #482
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very clearly. but labron only avgs 2 fouls per game despite always having the ball in his hand and dropping shoulders like it's his job. But victor will tell you labron gets the worst treatment in the L. what a joke.

but whatever, keep runnin it through pierce and failin
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haha. man i thought u were joking about the whole shoulder rb thing. guess you are just as unrefined as the kobe nuthuggers who denigrate lebron.

you do realize they are who started that little narrative?
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Wow, at least someone else recognizes this. Every ****ing time he barrels into the lane is a ****ing joke. He knocked pierce down on one play with like 4minutes to go, waht a ****ing joke, then has clear lane for a layup and nobody ever contests. He's such a big fat hunk of trash it's disgusting, no skill whatsoever. How many ****ing times do I hav eto tell people that barreling into the lane and throwing your shoulder out as you do it and getting a ****ing layup is not skillful. It's a joke. Lebron is making a mockery of the league, go play football you idiot.
just to clarify this whole little situation.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:48 PM   #483
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Sigh. I though the Cetics would get jobbed but they just stopped trying in the last 1:30. And could we please stop relying on Pierce?
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:48 PM   #484
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Lebron got 11 free throws tonight, probably shoulda had around 20. I'm starting to buy the Victor argument.
hmmm
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:48 PM   #485
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celts shoulda won today. if they keep runnin rondo they have a far better chance.
yeah, and we didn't. Even when we execute the game plan, we don't play THAT good.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:48 PM   #486
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Believe it or not I don't totally disagree with this. He's definitely a better than average three point shooter and he was wide open. I just feel like in that situation it's still +EV to use up as much clock as possible. Especially when you have a guy as good as LeBron James on your team to take the shot as the clock winds down.
scoring is more +ev than running clock when there are 2 min left
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:48 PM   #487
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I know this is the typical message board smarter than NBA coach thing, but seriously, I wish I could win some charity auction for a lunch with Doc and just print out some threads here and go over strategy with him.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:48 PM   #488
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mo williams was wide open and is a good 3pt shooter. shot was fine. they weren't up enough that milking clock was an option, they needed to keep scoring
Yeah, Reggie was incredibly results oriented there. What, you're going to burn clock to get a better shot than that? It was a wide open three from one of the best 3 point shooters in the league. That's like >1.5 pts in EV.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:49 PM   #489
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wow just checked the boxscore - kg shot 20 times. wtf!

our old guys (sheed, kg, pierce, finley) went 15-43 w/ 2fta. lolz
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:50 PM   #490
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It wasn't that Rondo became less effective, either, when he drove in the second half he either was passing to a wide open player or getting fouled. He just did it a lot less so they could iso Pierce for a contested 17 footer.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:51 PM   #491
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Wow, at least someone else recognizes this. Every ****ing time he barrels into the lane is a ****ing joke. He knocked pierce down on one play with like 4minutes to go, waht a ****ing joke, then has clear lane for a layup and nobody ever contests. He's such a big fat hunk of trash it's disgusting, no skill whatsoever. How many ****ing times do I hav eto tell people that barreling into the lane and throwing your shoulder out as you do it and getting a ****ing layup is not skillful. It's a joke. Lebron is making a mockery of the league, go play football you idiot.
It's hard to take you seriously when you make outrageous claims like these.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:51 PM   #492
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Rondo is the best player on the team. He has been all year. It was ridiculous to abandon what was working. He was single-handedly crushing this game. Though we harped on the bench and Doc sucking all year, so when they do there really shouldn't be any surprise.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:51 PM   #494
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Yeah, Reggie was incredibly results oriented there. What, you're going to burn clock to get a better shot than that? It was a wide open three from one of the best 3 point shooters in the league. That's like >1.5 pts in EV.
I think its one of those things you say in the heat of the moment. When I saw Mo toss up that shot, my initial reaction was kinda like oh bad idea, but yeah obviously it makes sense in retrospect.
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It wasn't that Rondo became less effective, either, when he drove in the second half he either was passing to a wide open player or getting fouled. He just did it a lot less so they could iso Pierce for a contested 17 footer.
lol epi
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:52 PM   #496
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a lot of minutes for the Celtics old timers tonight. Better watch out for a broken hip later in the series.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:52 PM   #497
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Cavs in 4
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:52 PM   #498
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It wasn't that Rondo became less effective, either, when he drove in the second half he either was passing to a wide open player or getting fouled. He just did it a lot less so they could iso Pierce for a contested 17 footer.
he did it non-stop until he got his 4th foul, apparently Doc forgot about him while he was sitting on the bench and when he came back I can't even recall seeing him with the ball (except for the Perkins turnover)
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I thought Mo was kind of off-balance on that 3 but I could be wrong. He was kind of blocked by the Celtics players.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:55 PM   #500
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no, Doc didn't forget about him. This happens in pretty much every close game. We go away from Rondo/Allen/KG/etc and run Pierce isols.
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