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cavs in 4 6 6.90%
cavs in 5 25 28.74%
cavs in 6 25 28.74%
cavs in 7 7 8.05%
celts in 4 2 2.30%
celts in 5 2 2.30%
celts in 6 8 9.20%
celts in 7 12 13.79%
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:11 PM   #3151
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How about when they were down 9 with 1:20 left and the ball in Rondo's hands?

Does that make sense if you watch a lot of the NBA? Did you even watch the game with this .45 second nonsense?
I conceded that it could've been a little bit earlier. 35 seconds qualifies as a little bit earlier don't you think?
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:11 PM   #3152
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How am I wrong when 99.9% of the time when a NBA team is down by 9 or more with less than a minute left they don't foul. What happened tonight is super standard for NBA games that's all i'm saying. It happens all the time and I've never heard anyone on this board outraged about it before.
you're kinda dense.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:12 PM   #3153
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How am I wrong when 99.9% of the time when a NBA team is down by 9 or more with less than a minute left they don't foul. What happened tonight is super standard for NBA games that's all i'm saying. It happens all the time and I've never heard anyone on this board outraged about it before.
If you keep saying this over and over again it won't make you right.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:12 PM   #3154
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How am I wrong when 99.9% of the time when a NBA team is down by 9 or more with less than a minute left they don't foul. What happened tonight is super standard for NBA games that's all i'm saying. It happens all the time and I've never heard anyone on this board outraged about it before.
You are wrong.

This is the playoffs. Do you have a better shot of winning and advancing standing around for 24 seconds down 9 or fouling within a second or two, hoping they miss free throws and hoping you can hit some threes and do that multiple times?
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:13 PM   #3155
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At least Cleveland has Delhomme now
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:14 PM   #3156
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I conceded that it could've been a little bit earlier. 35 seconds qualifies as a little bit earlier don't you think?
When you are talking about the right play to make with 45 seconds left an extra 35 seconds make a difference, no?

You say you conceded it but you continue to say less than one minute when the calls for a foul were clearly with a minute+ when Lebron backed off Rondo and everyone started looking at the Cavs bench and then just gave up.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:15 PM   #3157
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FlyWf predicted Cavs in 4.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:17 PM   #3158
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can someone good at photoshop please create this with that quote attached please thank you
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:18 PM   #3159
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Quit. We Are All Witnesses.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:19 PM   #3160
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:21 PM   #3161
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:22 PM   #3162
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actually, i think i get it, since haters gonna hate its impossible for anyone to admit i was right about anything.

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Old 05-13-2010, 11:23 PM   #3163
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yes please bring on the "quit/we are witnesses" pics

actually lebron gave one hell of a ****ing effort tonight. but there was some quit at the end, so yeah, he's a quitter lol
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:24 PM   #3164
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God you guys love to argue about dumb *****. Obviously i understand that they have zero chance to win if they don't foul and maybe 0.0000000000001% of a chance to win if they do start fouling. My comments were not whether it was the right play or not it was that it happens all the time. A minute and 21 seconds, 45 seconds whatever. When a team is down 9 that late in NBA games they don't do the extend the game out forever thing by fouling that college teams do. You guys watch enough NBA to know that so don't act like i'm just pulling something out of no where.

Is fouling the 100% most mathematically optimal thing to do to extend the game?

Yes.

I never said that it wasn't. The point that i was making is that in similar situations in the NBA you never see the foul to the bitter end thing so to call out mike brown or the cavs for it is kind of lame. No one was yelling "foul foul omg hawks aren't fouling" in the hawks-orlando series when the game was obv over in the waning moments.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:25 PM   #3165
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:26 PM   #3166
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ima guess the scenario was a ton different in the orl/atl game you're referring to. and no, you're not allowed to compare random regular season games with playoff game 6s that can pretty much decide the future of your franchise.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:26 PM   #3167
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God you guys love to argue about dumb *****.
Yes, Yes I do.

But you started this argument and are the only person arguing your side, and you are clearly wrong. The whole appealing to a higher authority move was really weak as well.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:26 PM   #3168
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why do people care THAT MUCH if they foul? did someone bet the over or something?
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:26 PM   #3169
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The Hawks lost by 14 and scored the final 7 points of the game in the final minutes and a half, not exactly a comparable situation
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:29 PM   #3170
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:29 PM   #3171
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When you are talking about the right play to make with 45 seconds left an extra 35 seconds make a difference, no?

You say you conceded it but you continue to say less than one minute when the calls for a foul were clearly with a minute+ when Lebron backed off Rondo and everyone started looking at the Cavs bench and then just gave up.
Dude i can't keep up with the new posts down to the second. When breen was talking about it, it was the 45-50 second mark. I don't know when the exact moment in time the 2+2ers started calling for fouls. If it was 1:21 okay fine. Still doesn't change the fact that it was very standard for the NBA and if you guys spent this much energy banging on it everytime it happened you wouldn't have time to do much else.
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Maybe try it with "And like that" in the gap in the dust (where it makes an indent to the left), and put "he's gone" just below the dust, but above Lebron in the nice dark space there. Just an idea. Right now, "he's gone" gets kind of lost.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:30 PM   #3174
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which player had his head out of town more, in their final game?

lebron, or cristiano ronaldo?
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:31 PM   #3175
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Next year it will be very obvious how horrible LBJ's supporting cast is. You can't beat good teams when you have the #1 and #6 best players on the court, even when the #1 is LBJ.
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