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Old 11-20-2017, 09:58 AM   #76
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being able to touch the rim without jumping is an x-factor, imo
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:44 AM   #77
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So if you contrast this draft to the 2013 draft, there might ne 6-7 guys who project as better grades than Anthony Bennett. Obviously, nobody knew Bennett would suck as much as he would but still, Jaren Jackson Jr might not go until #7 or so and he projects as way better than Bennett did at this time in his draft.

Bagley, Doncic, PorterJR, Ayton, Bamba, JJJ all project as top 3 picks and theres obviously too many prospects to fit for top 3. Think this is the most loaded draft since LeBron/Wade/Carmelo/Bosh.
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:52 AM   #78
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Bennett was not a #1 in anyone's mind besides the Cavs. He was expected to be a fringe top 10 pick if I recall.
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:07 AM   #79
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I know he cake out of nowhere iirc. Dont think he was ever considered a top prospect throughout the seasonuntil very close to the draft. I could be wrong about that though.
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:42 AM   #80
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2013 Draft is one of the weirdest.

There are 2 great players from that draft, both were taken in the mid to late 1st (Giannis and Gobert) and there are some good players like Porter, McCollum, KCP, Adams, Dipo, Zeller but the #1 was LOL bad. And there are a few huge busts in the top 10 like Len, McLemore, Burke to go with Bennett.

Redraft is pretty easy IMO:

Giannis
Gobert

Porter
Adams

Then there are a bunch of solid players.
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:23 PM   #81
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porter jr. out for the year with a back injury, wowee
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Old 11-21-2017, 06:53 PM   #82
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:41 AM   #83
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Old 11-22-2017, 04:59 AM   #84
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if I were any of these big guys, Id play the non-conference then bounce
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Old 11-24-2017, 11:03 PM   #85
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Matty Haarms is absolute dominating Arizona and Deandre Ayton. Has swatted Ayton twice.
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Old 11-25-2017, 03:40 PM   #86
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Old 11-25-2017, 05:24 PM   #87
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Old 11-25-2017, 09:27 PM   #88
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duke v texas was quite interesting - bamba really looks like an idiot offensively, not only do his instincts seem quite weak, he just makes dumbass decisions sometimes (like trying to bring the ball up). he is also super weak, but i guess that'll get a bit better in time

bagley had 34 - did it in a few different ways, still v efficient around the rim even in a game with bamba (not that he took it right at him, but he's quite quick and instinctual around the basket). seemed a bit less effective going 1on1 (esp texas have this fat white guy who seemed to defend him decently), but the postups at the end were nice. would be cool if he can hold up at center in the nba because his shooting has been quite bad so far (only 18/36 on fts)
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Old 11-27-2017, 02:04 AM   #89
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Bagley comp, which I called three years ago when I saw him play as a HS Freshman, is smoother Bosh.
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Old 11-27-2017, 02:50 AM   #90
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interesting comp, i've got bosh's advantages as a prospect:
- longer
- better shooter
- more athletic (?)

bagley is likely better off the catch, and potentially has better perimeter skills in general (although he hasn't really leveraged them much in ncaa, and likely won't be able to due to bad spacing)
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Old 11-27-2017, 03:00 AM   #91
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i've been watching most of the doncic highlights this year - i think it's pretty reasonable to expect him to be a very good and versatile shooter. his numbers aren't sick, but the degree of difficulty is very high; he seems totally capable of bombing extra long 3s, stepping back, shooting off the dribble etc. it alleviates some concerns about potential lack of athleticism because if he can just bomb from 3 in pnr (ridic hard to defend a 6'6 guy doing it) he's a nightmare cover, esp with his v good passing

we can def lock in doncic or ayton for the #1 pick at this point imo
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Old 11-27-2017, 08:11 AM   #92
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jaren jackson really has the kind of quickness that guys his size rarely have + some solid-seeming shooting touch. he is def not that polished, looks pretty spazzy at times, but he also seems to have heaps of wim

imo he's not unlike myles turner as a prospect - seems a bit smaller but more athletic. legit defensive talent athletically + shooting + wim is a pretty intriguing combo
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:35 AM   #93
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jackson's jumper does not look good
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Old 11-27-2017, 10:08 AM   #94
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Doncic had his worse game of the year. Still tied the game with 40s left on a one foot contested fadeaway from 3.

Deandre "not 19" Ayton cant be picked over him.
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Old 11-30-2017, 04:34 AM   #95
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i wonder if this guy has any draft buzz, first time i've really heard of him but he seems to be a quite athletic mobile 4 with some shooting ability, and apparently is a bit of a sleeper. he'd be the first japanese-born player to get drafted if he did end up looking promising enough

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Old 11-30-2017, 05:05 AM   #96
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found this article which highlights some bad defensive play from ayton. cliffs are he doesn't make the impact as a help defender / rim protector that you'd expect from a guy with his tools, just kinda stands around sometimes without making rotations
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:31 PM   #97
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rui looks interesting, definitely great athlete but his skill level and feel for the game seem somewhat lacking just based on that video.
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:38 PM   #98
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found this article which highlights some bad defensive play from ayton. cliffs are he doesn't make the impact as a help defender / rim protector that you'd expect from a guy with his tools, just kinda stands around sometimes without making rotations
damn, not good. a lot of these look wiggins-esque.
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:09 PM   #99
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it does remind of wiggins a bit, and he's a great case in point of a guy who had his draft stock bolstered by his defensive tools, but obviously if the guy never plans on utilising the tools then there's really not much there to like

i guess the upside of that article is that he at least seems to have some ability to defend on the perimeter adequately, but being a giant vag around the rim isn't gonna fly
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:29 PM   #100
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Hachimura is lost on the court, when Gonzaga even gets him in the game
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