Beasley
D'angelo Russell is quite mediocre
OJ mayo was just okay

honestly there isn't that many examples of guys who had stats even close to Trae after 1 year other than maybe Beasley and Durant. A lot of the UK one and done kids split shots and don't have the best ppg. Kyrie barely played at Duke. If we restrict to just 1 and done players there are a lot of mediocre kids that have been taken in the lottery.

Here's a list of all the 1 and done kids from the lottery.

https://theundefeated.com/features/a...s-a-scorecard/

Pretty sure Carmelo Anthony had the best 1 and done ever. Not only scored a ton, led his team to the championship.

that's pre 1 and done era but yeah he was sick.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...0&order_by=pts

those are freshman since 1992 season that scored more than 20 ppg. a few have sucked/mediocre in the pros (Wagner, Mayo, Hughes) and a few have been great--others have stayed for more than 1 season.

Russell didn't have anywhere near the year Trae had, Mayo was decent in the nba & would've been better if he didn't have personality & off court issues & Beasley is actually a great name for you to bring up. Beasley busting in the nba has to be an anomaly though, i don't think anybody would predict a bust from him & i still feel alot of it is character issues, he's a waste of talent if you ask me. You can probably throw Fultz in there as well but the jury is still out on that kid. Either way Trae has had one of the best college one & done seasons in terms of production ever & only beasley from the list you provided is comparable. Trae may have some bust potential like legit everybody in every draft has but if he wants it bad enough & with his skill level he can be really good so i'm rooting for the kid.

Is he going to be good or is he the next Joe Alexander?

I thought he killed both deals, hindsight 20/20 but I still like them.

melo consulting with adviser

this is nowhere close to marvin>CP3. hawks at the time needed a PG. it was absurdly dumb.

i think hawks are gonna be exciting, dont get me wrong. i just think they have the kind of roster that could do okay in the regular season and then get massively exposed in the playoffs (aka almost every good hawks season ever).

trae is gonna get bumhunted on defense so badly. lloyd pierce needs to dedicate 100% of his time trying to turn trae into CP3 on defense.

grunching

NBA fan who pays zero attention to players before they're in the NBA

why do like 95% of people say Doncic is the best player in the draft and he ends up going 3rd?

Concerns about his physical abilities I imagine

Ayton played college in AZ so it was considered his hometown. SAC may have been afraid Doncic would have stayed in Europe or they were just doing SAC things. The stigma of the Euro is still alive.

They think he's too slow to be playing guard/forward in the nba & won't be able to defend anybody pretty much. What they fail to realize is that he's 6'7, 230lbs with the size of a s.f & skillset of a p.g. He's no Westbrook but he's not as bad an athlete as people are claiming, he stayed in front of Westbrook on a play at age 17 and beat Oladipo off the dribble in the same game. Doncic is a 6-7/10 athlete in terms of speed, quickness & hops for his size & around the same level of Hayward imo & that's pretty solid.



^^^ As you can see he's a decent but not great athlete, people are underestimating him though is all there's to it.

85% of the “ sharp” hoop posters on here loled Ainge over the KI IT trade lol

The Brooklyn pick could've binked in the top 3.

Ainge seems to get over on everyone. It would have been sick of they binked Doncic but Cleveland's luck has probably run out.

Ainge is quite the gangster.

Apparently Brett Brown is gangsta as well. I like what they did, even though I'm not the biggest Zhaire fan... The fact that Denver's FO, Dean, and some other smart people were so high on him makes me want to defer judgement.

But the overall framework, getting a pick in the possible first year of high-schoolers being allowed, and from Phoenix who might still be lottery-bound by then, all that makes it seem like an excellent deal for Philly.

Pick is Miami’s

and even if theyre low on Smith, there are teams out there who are high on him. he has trade value

Kyrie is a severely flawed player with long-term knee issues. Let's not act like the Celtics crushed this trade.

The Nets pick alone might have been worth more than Kyrie w/ two years left on his deal and a degenerative knee.

the pick's value is so hurt by Brooklyn never tanking

Oh yeah, could be even better then.

Kyrie was injured & out for the playoffs, has 1 year left & may leave to go to the Knicks next season & the Celtics lost the #8 pick & a productive player in Crowder for them. In no way has the Celtics won the trade, Ty Lue just sucks as a coach & couldn't make Crowder look decent & i'm not sure that i love the Sexton pick. If the Cavs drafted Knox, Mikal/Miles Bridges then i'd say they won the trade but they didn't so, oh well.

Cavs won it? How do we know if Kyrie would have missed the playoffs with the Cavs?

Crowder struggled on Utah too, it's not like it was just Lue.

USA Today had the Hawks “ winning “ on draft day.