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03-01-2024 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I assume he was kidding.

WNBA bigs obviously could not hold up against good boys high school bigs, but I think Clark herself could handle pretty good boy's high school competition. She would be small and would get cooked on defense, but she almost certainly has as much range and shoots as well as any boys HS guard.
what ball are they using?
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03-01-2024 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nucularburro
This is so ridiculous.

WNBA can't beat good high school boys teams.

According to WNBA legend Sheryl Swoops she’s not even good enough to play in the WNBA!
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03-01-2024 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
what ball are they using?
I guess that I was imagining an impossible scenario where she was playing with a women's ball and the boys were playing with a men's ball. It would be difficult for either the boys or Clark to make an on the spot adjustment to a different sized ball.
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03-01-2024 , 03:55 PM
When I've played pickup games with girls who play(ed) in college they were used to playing with a men's ball too.
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03-01-2024 , 04:07 PM
glad you got laid irish
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03-01-2024 , 05:03 PM
just don't tell my wife
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03-01-2024 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MEb
Some of the old drafts, you had to worry about whether or not you could sign them. Easy example is Bird was never playing for Portland if they picked him. Celtics gambled losing that pick if they weren’t able to sign him prior to the following draft when he went back to school. Similar idea that Dr. J was probably never going to Portland either.

Rodman, no one thought was going to be anything close to what he became. He was a late 2nd round pick.

I’d start with the Bowie pick as the earliest example and go forward from there.
I really think you need to look at those first ten lines again ... who they took and who they passed over. Close to a hundred All-Star or near All-Star type seasons for almost nothing.

Where is this information coming from that Jordan and Bird just weren't going to play in Portland? They had a hoops manic city there shortly after the Walton Gang took over the region, then plummeted due to his injury. I think Jordan would have played in Bismark rather than sit out. He's one of the ultimate basketball jones cases. Of course Kobe was that too and manipulated his playing locale, but Portland isn't/wasn't Charlotte.

As far as a posteriori, isn't what the draft is all about being able to predict and project NBA excellence? Seems Portland was failing epically at it.
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03-01-2024 , 09:38 PM
At the end of the 1st, Pelicans 48-Pacers 26

Pelicans 20-22, 5-5, 3-3 (91/100/100)

I've never seen anything quite like this.
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03-01-2024 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
I really think you need to look at those first ten lines again ... who they took and who they passed over. Close to a hundred All-Star or near All-Star type seasons for almost nothing.

Where is this information coming from that Jordan and Bird just weren't going to play in Portland? They had a hoops manic city there shortly after the Walton Gang took over the region, then plummeted due to his injury. I think Jordan would have played in Bismark rather than sit out. He's one of the ultimate basketball jones cases. Of course Kobe was that too and manipulated his playing locale, but Portland isn't/wasn't Charlotte.

As far as a posteriori, isn't what the draft is all about being able to predict and project NBA excellence? Seems Portland was failing epically at it.

The draft where Portland passed on Bird, most teams would have because he had already said he was going back to college. The Celtics gambled and it paid off because they were the Celtics. Bird could have chosen to just reenter the draft the following season. They then changed the rules so you couldn’t draft guys still in college.

Jordan, I never said anything about, other than that was the earliest year you should count as a draft blunder by Portland.

Rodman, every team passed on him. He was drafted end of the second round.

You can basically do what you did with Portland with every team in the NBA. Especially if going to the lengths of saying what a failure it was for them to pass on a guy every single team in the NBA passed on.
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03-01-2024 , 11:00 PM
Before the draft, Larry Bird had just finished his junior year at Indiana State. However, he was eligible to be drafted without applying for "hardship" because his original college class at Indiana University had graduated.[10][15] He initially enrolled at Indiana University in 1974 but dropped out before the season began. After sitting out a year, he enrolled at Indiana State.[16] Despite being eligible for the draft, he stated that he would return to college for his senior season. His hometown team, the Indiana Pacers, initially held the first overall pick. However, when they failed to persuade him to leave college early, they traded the first pick to the Blazers, who also failed to convince him into signing.[17][18] Five teams, including the Pacers who held the third pick, passed on Bird until the Celtics used the sixth pick to draft him. They drafted him even though they knew that they might lose the exclusive rights to him if he didn't sign before the next draft. He could reenter the draft in 1979 and sign with the other team that drafted him, and in negotiations with Red Auerbach Bird's agent Bob Woolf bluntly dismissed Red's lowball salary offers (he said that he would not offer Bird a contract that paid him more than the $400,000 annual salary of the team's highest-paid player at the time, Dave Cowens) and made it clear that Bird would enter the 1979 Draft without any regrets if Boston didn't change its plans. Nevertheless, in April 1979, he signed a five-year, US$3.25-million contract with the Celtics, which made him the highest-paid rookie in the history of team sport at that time.[19]
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03-01-2024 , 11:04 PM
But imagine being a Minnesota fan

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03-02-2024 , 12:36 AM
Timberwolves told Dell Curry do NOT draft my son. He also told the Warriors the same thing. Warriors said "F it, we're drafting him".


Who had the 8th pick? and wanted to be drafted by the team that held the 8th pick? You're New York Knicks and Steph Curry.
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03-02-2024 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MEb
The draft where Portland passed on Bird, most teams would have because he had already said he was going back to college. The Celtics gambled and it paid off because they were the Celtics. Bird could have chosen to just reenter the draft the following season. They then changed the rules so you couldn’t draft guys still in college.

Jordan, I never said anything about, other than that was the earliest year you should count as a draft blunder by Portland.

Rodman, every team passed on him. He was drafted end of the second round.

You can basically do what you did with Portland with every team in the NBA. Especially if going to the lengths of saying what a failure it was for them to pass on a guy every single team in the NBA passed on.
Except I've done it on every team in the NBA and none of them look anything like this. You're just talking BS with that. And you cherry pick the one player no one wanted out of 50+ on that list and use that as evidence that the first 11 lines there are okay? Really? This is systematic incompetent drafting that has no peer or near peer in the NBA. When looking at those first eleven lines, before Jordan, all you can say is, "Yes, that is some epic incompetent drafting." No other comment is reasonable. Your attempt to one-up me on this basically because Rodman was bagging groceries fails. Sorry. Please look at those first 11 lines, nothing to do with Jordan or Rodman, and say, "Whoops. I was off base here. That's obscenely bad picking." Or don't. And stay out of my pots.

Oh it was Dr. J you asserted wouldn't play for Portland, not Jordan. Okay, well, just another blind assertion or is there reason to think that?

Of course the Blazers injury luck has been horrible with first picks too, Walton, Oden, Bowie, compounding the situation. The Bowie pick was asking for trouble, the Oden pick stupid imo (a generational scoring talent Durant versus a guy who can get you 10 or 12 rebounds, who are a dime a dozen). The fact that the Bird and Dr. J picks were complicated in terms of availability is true, but they are still on the list of superstars to be the Blazers passed on for NOTHING. Epic fail.
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03-02-2024 , 09:04 AM
OKC sign Muscala. I guess they're not totally blind to the fact they needed 1 more big but not sure what Muscala is going to achieve..

Really puzzling to me how you can be in such a powerful situation and not take advantage of your picks. They should have been ready to pay 200 cents on the dollar if needed for a guy like Allen, Capela or Markkannen
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03-02-2024 , 10:12 AM
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Except I've done it on every team in the NBA and none of them look anything like this.
You took the time to do that sort of analysis for every team in the NBA? Wow.
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03-02-2024 , 04:19 PM
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You took the time to do that sort of analysis for every team in the NBA? Wow.
He probably hasn't but he is weirdly obsessed with busts and generally seems to be rooting for hyped young athletes to fail so that he can feel superior, even though he has no actual knowledge that lets him distinguish between Wemby, EDLC and Vince Young.

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Meanwhile, Young is the greatest combination of running/passing the college game has ever seen and that just kind of gets missed in such stupid numbers crunching.

Further, Vince melted down when he was no longer the super stud mismatch miles above the competition, he failed at the new demands and challenges he was faced with ... and busted. That factor is highly in play in Wemby's outcome forecast. But you can't find it in the numbers. Some combination of Leaf, Zion, Wie, Vince, Sampson light, Mandarich, Jamarcus, Tebow, Manziel ... The thing is developmental. The more awesomely gifted one is, and the more coddled since birth, the more vulnerable they are to this kind of bust. "Oh but how do you know Wemby was coddled since birth!!?? Do you have video from his natal care unit? Do you have interviews and statistics from his pre-school care givers? I take everything literally, you know." LOL.

I'm not hating on players ... I am merely projecting outcomes. It's fine with me if Wemby turns out to be a superstar like you apparently assume is way odds-on. And if there is actual greatness there, I'll be all for it. These types of awesome physical tools are not presumed to be realized into greatness. The bigger they are, the harder the fall seems.
He's funny in a self-unaware clown kind of way though:

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When I'm in the house, stop talking about gambling. You are going to want to follow my fringe opinions. They're GOAT material and have been for half a century and cut off around the globe. FYI.
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03-02-2024 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
OKC sign Muscala. I guess they're not totally blind to the fact they needed 1 more big but not sure what Muscala is going to achieve..

Really puzzling to me how you can be in such a powerful situation and not take advantage of your picks. They should have been ready to pay 200 cents on the dollar if needed for a guy like Allen, Capela or Markkannen
Yeah I'd really like for Presti to explain himself at some point why he didn't buy a big for the playoff run. It's kind of mind-boggling.
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03-03-2024 , 01:18 AM
Anthony Davis was pathetic tonight. 17 pts. Basically gift-wrapped Jokic 35 points.
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03-03-2024 , 02:26 AM
LeBrick finally reached the 40,000 pt. mark 2nite in his career (took him long enough) and the Fakers still lost after an hour+ LeBrick celebration ceremony? lol

also, can any NBA dudes here explain the interest in his son as a NBA draft pick for the next draft? "Bronny" has done zilch against college talent in his limited time at USC.

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03-03-2024 , 02:34 AM
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He probably hasn't but he is weirdly obsessed with busts and generally seems to be rooting for hyped young athletes to fail so that he can feel superior, even though he has no actual knowledge that lets him distinguish between Wemby, EDLC and Vince Young.



He's funny in a self-unaware clown kind of way though:
Yeah I said the meltdown Vince Young/Ryan Leaf factor was in play, not gonna happen. The kid is a teenager and he could have turned out like Chris Washburn as much as he could Kareem. So far all signs good, very good, in Wemby's game and head.
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03-03-2024 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
LeBrick finally reached the 40,000 pt. mark 2nite in his career (took him long enough) and the Fakers still lost after an hour+ LeBrick celebration ceremony? lol

also, can any NBA dudes here explain the interest in his son as a NBA draft pick for the next draft? "Bronny" has done zilch against college talent in his limited time at USC.
Hey there's already a 72 poster. Can you change your name?
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03-03-2024 , 01:03 PM
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Hey there's already a 72 poster. Can you change your name?
no
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03-03-2024 , 01:11 PM
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no
OK.

From hence forth you shall be named "Lesser 72off"
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03-03-2024 , 01:17 PM
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OK.

From hence forth you shall be named "Lesser 72off"
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03-03-2024 , 05:31 PM
Lol
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