Comparing sports to other jobs?

It doesn't excuse his lousiness, but how many of those 109 players play with an equivalent or worse set of teammates? Some non-zero portion of Poole's miserable performance can be attributed to the fact that the Wiz suck from top to bottom.

ETA: In case it was not clear, this is an unanswerable rhetorical question.

You haven't given enough time for Kyrie asshatery to occur

he sucked with good players on the warriors, ergo he sucks

I think he’s actually content where he is now, especially cuz they’ve been winning, but Kyrie will prolly prove me wrong.

Kyrie has been a malcontent on winning teams in the past.

This was very foreseeable. Back in June, I posted the following:

True enough, but I also think you are seeing the best version of Luka so far. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the MVP this year.

truth be told i thought you guys were genuinely trolling back when you were praising him so hard

i barely watch nba, but statistically speaking he's always been hot garbage pronounced in a french accent

Yordan Puul ?

lol

Coozmah svetter?

True, it's a lot easier than most normal jobs.

This refers to Jordan Poole or Draymond green?

poole

and i did love where you guys went with the french pronounciation

but it was intended to be "gar-boj"

but i do like Yordan Puul

Wizards are +13.4 pp 100 possessions when he's off the court.

i hate these metrics though because they don't account for rest of team stuff

ie a bad team will often have all their starters have numbers like this because they go to the bench late in blowouts and the team that got blownout usually does better than the team up large in the 4th

as you can see, all guys with heavy minutes are heavy on the minus and the garbage time players have insanely good +/-



i hate on puul as much as anyone, but he doesn't deserve that kind of out of context shade

Okay.

Would you like to talk about his BPM of -6.2, his win shares of -0.5, or his PER of 10 instead?

The eye test is enough.

him sucking balls is a big reason why they suck and all starters have dashes instead of plusses

but like i said that is a highly deceptive stat because you can make it look like the bench players are objectively better than the starters and that's just simply not true

I didn't say the bench was better than the starters.

You just said they sucked top to bottom.

But numbers seem to say their bench is okay compared to other benches.

no, i never mentioned benches, it's just basketball works, much there's a lot of unexplained stuff in sports such as series effects are other things which have held up over the entirety of the games so we know those effects are real even if we don't know why they exist

a team getting blown out nearly always scores more buckets in garbage time than the other team, it doesn't matter if it's starters vs starters, starters vs subs, subs vs subs - it just always happens over a large enough sample.

so people who get garbage time minutes are always going to have impressive +/- numbers and starters on bad teams are usually going to look terrible

i never said they sucked top to bottom (but they do), i was refuting this, which heavily implied they were better when he was off the court but that's extremely unlikely and i was pointing out that all the starters had terrible +/- and they were so bad they often go blownout so the +/- of the bench would be highly inflated
for this reason +/- numbers are worthless when looked at in a vacuum, you would need to isolate to only close situations and then you'd have a more meaningful bit of data






no, the nature of blowouts is that the team getting blown out always gets more points

if you take the best team in the nba and have them face the wizards then the spread in the halves and quarters is going to be flat but will be progressively in the favor of the wizards the later you go in the game

take tonight's biggest expected blowout in ncaab -27 Oklahoma

if you just look at the 1st half the the spread is not 27/2= 13.5 but rather -16.5

as you can see looking at alt spreads for 1h, it doesn't even offer below 15


and mind you, this isn't even a blowout, they are simply accounting for the possibility that the final minutes will be meaningless and that the other team will makeup some points late in the game as a result

this is because it's just a known phenomenon in basketball that teams which are up heavily nearly always give points back later in the game

So when wizards play the knicks tonight with a spread of 7.5, if the wiz are able to keep it relatively close then guys like poole will stay in the game, if they get blown out then poole will likely sit most of the 4th quarter

and if you check live odds, when the wizards are down by 20 halfway through the 4th tonight, it won't be the implied math of "ny is better than them by about 2 points per quarter so spread should be 21" but rather "it's a blowout so wiz are going to score more and the live spread will be something like 17" because the wiz will be expected to score 3 more points than the knicks in those final minutes regardless of who is on the floor

Does anyone know which players qualify for the $500K of the in-season tournament?

E.g. if the Grizzlies win it, does Ja get 500K?

What about a two-way contract who played a few minutes in the bracket stage?

Draymond is a bitch.

Coming from behind bitch.

Whoever cheap shots him next will be a hero.