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Interesting pick. Wasn't in my Top 10, although my favorite songwriter of all-time. I can see from a label perspective he could hypothetically be writing songs for artists beyond himself, and many of the most popular versions of his songs were not recorded by Dylan.

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08-02-2010 , 10:22 PM

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I'm running out of excuses for not having it I guess.

You could play with my hammered late night friday nights too. I'm sure that is hilarious to be a part of.

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08-02-2010 , 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 72off

doesn't seem like he wrote any of his music before "Off the Wall", where he 2.5/10 songs. He's credited with writing 4/9 on "Thriller" ("Wanna Be Startin' Somethin", "The Girl is Mine", "Beat It", and "Billie Jean"), and 9/11 on "Bad". Then he wrote about half of "Dangerous", then his last two albums were pretty forgettable. So yeah, his value is largely as a performer, which isn't terrible, and a bit as a writer/producer (if someone wants they can add up the songs he's written in his life, seems like ~50 maybe). does he even play an instrument (pretty sure i've seen him playing the piano, can he play a guitar or anything else?)? it's just unclear is he adds a ton as a collaborative studio musician.

like i said, it's probably a good pick if he builds his studio the right way from here on in, i was just trying to counter the "zomg draft over" type of sentiment.

I don't think you are aware of how many legendary hip hop producers that could do for Jackson exactly what the people he worked with did... that part is just trivial. I'm not going to miss out on that.

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08-02-2010 , 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 72off

doesn't seem like he wrote any of his music before "Off the Wall", where he penned 2.5/10 songs. He's credited with writing 4/9 on "Thriller" ("Wanna Be Startin' Somethin", "The Girl is Mine", "Beat It", and "Billie Jean"), and 9/11 on "Bad". Then he wrote about half of "Dangerous", then his last two albums were pretty forgettable. So yeah, his value is largely as a performer, which isn't terrible, and a bit as a writer/producer (if someone wants they can add up the songs he's written in his life, seems like ~50 maybe). does he even play an instrument (pretty sure i've seen him playing the piano, can he play a guitar or anything else?)? it's just unclear is he adds a ton as a collaborative studio musician.

like i said, it's probably a good pick if he builds his studio the right way from here on in, i was just trying to counter the "zomg draft over" type of sentiment.

That alone would be the greatest album of all time.

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08-02-2010 , 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 72off

IMO "Off The Wall" is one his meh albums, probably up there with "HIStory" and "Invincible". The other three have the biggest hits and he had the most influence on those albums. Also the three best songs off of Thriller were all written by him. Some of the best on "Bad" weren't written by him too. Really feel like you are selling him short man. Looking through the credits on some of his albums it looks like he played instruments on them as well.

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08-02-2010 , 10:25 PM

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If Dylan couldn't perform he would be a first rounder, so going in the top 3 is obviously fine.

7/9 songs on Thrillers were released as singles which is insane.

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08-02-2010 , 10:26 PM

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You could play with my hammered late night friday nights too. I'm sure that is hilarious to be a part of.

Now I'm REALLY running out of excuses.

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08-02-2010 , 10:27 PM

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It's hard to believe "The Girl is Mine" was the lead single. Man I hate that ****ing song.

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08-02-2010 , 10:30 PM

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i guess i was pretty dumb for thinking that i might have a shot at Dylan @ #14...among other things, apparently. he went relatively low in that music festival draft though, no? (especially given his reputation as a live performer)

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08-02-2010 , 10:32 PM

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Dylan's value is much higher in this draft then the festival draft. You can use him as a songwriter for other artists and you he is an accomplished solo artist.

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08-02-2010 , 10:33 PM

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Unbelievable now my internet decided to crash and I lost my writeup as it was 100% finished. I'll have an abbreviated one up in just a few guys, sorry.

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08-02-2010 , 10:33 PM

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The POG crowd also doesn't take the drafting as seriously as SE. Lots of people were just taking personal favorites or the festival they would most like to attend etc.

Last edited by SarcasticRat; 08-02-2010 at 10:34 PM. Reason: not me of course

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08-02-2010 , 10:34 PM

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you've got to be ****ing kidding me

i can't find any actual versions of my pick's songs on youtube that are by him

Can you be more obvious?

Great pick though. I love Dylan. And not just as a writer.

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08-02-2010 , 10:37 PM

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Last edited by bnrocks; 08-02-2010 at 10:54 PM. Reason: more of my original write up before the internet ate it

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08-02-2010 , 10:38 PM

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Nice shirt bro

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08-02-2010 , 10:40 PM

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Lennon was a guy in my top 3 and probably the guy I would have taken #1.

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08-02-2010 , 10:43 PM

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Dylan wasn't who I was expecting and wasn't in my top 3

That blows my mind, because he's one of the three guys I think is clearly worth the #1 overall pick.

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08-02-2010 , 10:44 PM

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I think here we get the first example of an artist who would get an extended career after his IRL death, correct?

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08-02-2010 , 10:44 PM

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Wow, I'm really surprised [undrafted] hasn't been taken yet.

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08-02-2010 , 10:45 PM

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Lennon was another guy I considered a potential #1 overall. I'm a huge, huge fan and would have grabbed him if Dylan had gone.

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08-02-2010 , 10:46 PM

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Nath how do you gain access to the spreadsheet?

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08-02-2010 , 10:49 PM

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It's hard to believe "The Girl is Mine" was the lead single. Man I hate that ****ing song.

Haha that's his worst hit song by far imo just awful.

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08-02-2010 , 10:49 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5CUHHGlQg0

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1.5 Paul McCartney

McCartney was #3 on my board(#1 Lennon, #2 MJ), and I think those top 3 form the top tier, so I'm thrilled to get him at #5. With most of my writeups I'll be willing to argue for days about why I chose them, but do I really need to say all that much here? I think this speaks for itself:

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Originally Posted by Guinness World Records

most successful musician and composer in popular music history

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Originally Posted by Guinness World Records

has written/co written 188 charted records, of which 91 reached the Top 10 and 33 made it to No.1 totalling 1,662 weeks on the chart (up to the beginning of 2008).

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Originally Posted by BBC News

"Yesterday" is the most covered song in music history.

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Originally Posted by BBC News Online Readers' Poll

voted the "Greatest Composer of the Millennium"

He was so good that his second best band(Wings) put out a single that "became the first single to sell more than two million copies in the UK, and remains the UK's top selling non-charity single." And thats his second best band!!!! Everyone already knows about his work with the Beatles...just so many classics to pick from: Yesterday, Yellow Submarine, Helter Skelter, Hey Jude....the list could just go on and on. These are songs that have influenced generations.

Studio So Far:

Paul McCartney

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08-02-2010 , 10:51 PM

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I saw Dylan live last year and it was... yikes. He changed the key and tempo to all of his songs and you couldn't make out a single word either. I'm not quite sure what that was all about. Still confused.