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08-18-2010 , 11:30 AM
Tweedy is definitely alt-country. He's prototypical alt-country. (And who we were picking this round; thanks bastard).

I was wondering when Stefani would go. Pretty good pick. bnrocks has the craziest label ever -- wild swongs from totally great (Lennon, Yorke, Jonsi, Tweedy) to wtf get it out of my ear (Garth, Maynard, Stefani). I don't get it, but I like it!
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08-18-2010 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NozeCandy
I'm walking out the door to catch a flight now, I'm up write after lol ldo so I'm just going to post mine and if he was taking either just skip that pick and I'll make it up later.

I'm taking Tony Bennett and Alice Cooper.
Tony Bennett has been off the board for a long time.

Once again:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...CNn18JwG#gid=1
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08-18-2010 , 11:33 AM
Huh, I did search. Alright insta repick of Kenny G! I just want a jazz guy for Quincy Jones and Barry White to hook up with.
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08-18-2010 , 11:33 AM
Tony Starks also taken fwiw
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08-18-2010 , 11:34 AM
Kenny G could be the worst pick of the draft
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08-18-2010 , 11:34 AM
[too slow]
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08-18-2010 , 11:35 AM
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08-18-2010 , 11:36 AM
If Pudge disagrees I'm positive that's a good pick.
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08-18-2010 , 11:36 AM
hey whats up kenny, i heard your new album its the bomb
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08-18-2010 , 11:37 AM
she could be earnin her man, and learnin her man, and at the same time burnin her man
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08-18-2010 , 11:38 AM
An undrafted jazz musician had this to say about Kenny G in a recent interview:

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Of course, I am aware of what he has played since, the success it has had, and the controversy that has surrounded him among musicians and serious listeners. This controversy seems to be largely fueled by the fact that he sells an enormous amount of records while not being anywhere near a really great player in relation to the standards that have been set on his instrument over the past sixty or seventy years. And honestly, there is no small amount of envy involved from musicians who see one of their fellow players doing so well financially, especially when so many of them who are far superior as improvisors and musicians in general have trouble just making a living. There must be hundreds, if not thousands of sax players around the world who are simply better improvising musicians than Kenny G on his chosen instruments. It would really surprise me if even he disagreed with that statement.

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Not long ago, Kenny G put out a recording where he overdubbed himself on top of a 30+ year old (undrafted) record, the track "(redacted)" With this single move, Kenny G became one of the few people on earth I can say that I really can't use at all - as a man, for his incredible arrogance to even consider such a thing, and as a musician, for presuming to share the stage with the single most important figure in our music.
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08-18-2010 , 11:39 AM
haters say kenny fell off, how nga his last album was breathless
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08-18-2010 , 11:40 AM
That's fine, he was almost purely a sales pick with the GOAT jazz producer behind him. He'll be ok.
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08-18-2010 , 11:43 AM
why stop w/ that quote, the rest is even better

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But when Kenny G decided that it was appropriate for him to defile the music of the man who is probably the greatest jazz musician that has ever lived by spewing his lame-ass, jive, pseudo bluesy, out-of-tune, noodling, wimped out, ****ed up playing all over one of the great [undrafted] tracks (even one of his lesser ones), he did something that I would not have imagined possible. He, in one move, through his unbelievably pretentious and calloused musical decision to embark on this most cynical of musical paths, **** all over the graves of all the musicians past and present who have risked their lives by going out there on the road for years and years developing their own music inspired by the standards of grace that [undrafted] brought to every single note he played over an amazing lifetime as a musician.

By disrespecting [undrafted], his legacy and by default, everyone who has ever tried to do something positive with improvised music and what it can be, Kenny G has created a new low point in modern culture - something that we all should be totally embarrassed about - and afraid of. We ignore this, "let it slide", at our own peril. His callous disregard for the larger issues of what this crass gesture implies is exacerbated by the fact that the only reason he possibly have for doing something this inherently wrong (on both human and musical terms) was for the record sales and the money it would bring.
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08-18-2010 , 11:43 AM
Round #12 Pick #249

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH3Q_CZy968

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40m Worldwide Record Sales With Blondie
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Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
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First New Wave Band To Have Commercial Chart Success
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The Greatest Front Woman Of All Time
With our 249th pick the studio of Assani Fisher/LOL LDO take Deborah Ann "Debbie" Harry.

The Greatest Front Woman Of All Time


Deborah Ann "Debbie" Harry (born July 1, 1945), also referred to as Blondie, is an American singer-songwriter and actress, most famous for being the lead singer for the New Wave band Blondie. She has also had success as a solo artist, and in the mid-1990s she performed and recorded as part of The Jazz Passengers. Her acting career spans over thirty film roles and numerous television appearances.

Someone forgot to tell Blondie that New Wave bands weren’t supposed to have hit records. Blondie broke the Top Forty barrier with the Number One hit “Heart of Glass” in 1979. Their conquest was no minor feat, as it meant overcoming music-industry wariness about punk and New Wave, which challenged the established order. Blondie seemed more accessible than some of their radical colleagues, since they drew upon Sixties subgenres - girl-group pop and garage-rock - that had a still-familiar ring. At the same time, they spiked their songs with New Wave freshness, vibrancy and attitude. In so doing, Blondie helped usher in a changing of the guard.

During the late Seventies and early Eighties, Blondie had eight Top Forty hits, including four that went to Number One: “Heart of Glass,” “Call Me,” “The Tide Is High” and “Rapture.” No other New Wave group had that many chart-topping singles. Striking a balance between edginess and catchiness, Blondie enjoyed hit records and artistic credibility - a best-of-both-worlds situation that few others pulled off in that era. They released albums that have stood the test of time like 1978's "Parallel Lines" and 1979's "Eat To The Beat".








In 1997 Blondie began working together again for the first time in 15 years, releasing another successful album "No Exit", playing sell-out world tours and having a sixth British No.1 with "Maria". They also successfully headlined Glastonbury. The band are still touring successfully.

In between working with Blondie, Harry has had a successful solo career, releasing five solo albums working with a number of artists including Moby, Elvis Costello, Talking Heads. She has also contributed songs for soundtracks including "Rush Rush" for the Scarface OST. She was also a member of The Jazz Passengers.

One of the most popular bands of the New Wave era, Blondie hit the scene with visually arresting frontwoman Debbie Harry. Her bleached-blond hair and full, pouty lips made her look the part of a new age Marilyn Monroe with a hint of punk hauteur (which paved the way for Madonna’s more risqué approach). “Looks have been one of the most saleable things ever,” Harry told journalist Karen Davis. “When I woke up to that, mine helped a lot.” Blondie’s striking visual image was bolstered by hooky, retro-chic pop tunes and canny art-rock leanings. With her two-tone bleached-blonde hair, Harry quickly became a recognizable punk icon. Her look was further popularized by the band's early presence in the music video revolution of the era. She is one of the world's most photographed women.

Studio So Far
1. Paul McCartney
2. Lou Reed
3. Bob Marley
4. Tom Petty
5. Sam Cooke
6. Morrissey
7. Billy Corgan
8. Frank Black
9. Tom Morello
10. Zack De La Rocha
11. Johnny Marr
12. Peter Hook
13. Debbie Harry




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08-18-2010 , 11:46 AM
Debbie Harry is an A+ pick
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08-18-2010 , 11:50 AM
Just to be clear there have been two saxophone players drafted.
John Coltrane and Kenny ****ing G
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08-18-2010 , 11:52 AM
i suppose i have to make more of an effort to get into Wilco or something, but i've never been blown away or anything. i've heard YHF a lot, and obviously that's a good album, but it's not some kind of GOAT album for me. i have SBS too, and that's just ok. never really heard any Uncle Tupelo stuff afaik. just never felt compelled to dig deeper on Tweedy, idk why, but at face value that's telling to me. and calling Wilco "The American Radiohead" seems pretty lol.

and commercial success? they've sold like 2m records from 8 albums or something. certainly nothing to write home about...

plus a lot of Wilco's stuff is co-written? still think Tweedy is a solid pick, Mangum on the other hand...? two albums with NMH that sold a combined 146k. i've only heard the one GOAT hipster sploogefest album, it's good, but c'mon? then he's done pretty much nothing else in his career...oh wait, i take that back!

- he worked on one album for some hipster supergroup that i never heard of
- he released a compilation of field recordings of Bulgarian folk music
- he hosted several radio shows featuring tape loops and other recordings on a New Jersey radio station
- he provided "drums, cow object, backing vocals, handclaps" on a couple albums for some bands i've never heard of
- and provided one song for some guy's album that i've never heard of

and that's pretty much it. 2 albums and what i just listed. oh sorry, it seems that he was in some band before NMH that i've never heard of, who had one semi-official release to their name. my apologies...

yeah that (likely, hopefully) gimmick post was brilliant really.
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08-18-2010 , 11:53 AM
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Just to be clear there have been two saxophone players drafted.
John Coltrane and Kenny ****ing G
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08-18-2010 , 11:59 AM
I was debating w/ myself as to whether p diddy would/should be drafted at all. The more I think about the puff daddy pick, the more i hate it. His music is so ****ing disposable and the antitheses of timeless. He's obv sold a **** ton of music, but he brings nothing original to the table. His main contribution/big idea was having ppl rap over pop songs, which really can be done by anybody.

He's a business man, and made the smart business decisions of getting close to two amazing talents in biggie and mary j. But as for musical talent, i dont think he has enough to be drafted.

Shiny suit mother****er.

/hate
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08-18-2010 , 12:00 PM
Thumbs up to Debbie Harry
Thumbs down to Kenny G
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08-18-2010 , 12:02 PM
d104,
I agree with all that, which is why I didn't want to pick him at all. But producing some of Ready to Die is enough to get him picked this late in the draft. Though I still think it is crazy that some hip-hop guys haven't been picked while luminaries like DMX are flying off the board.
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08-18-2010 , 12:08 PM
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i suppose i have to make more of an effort to get into Wilco or something, but i've never been blown away or anything. i've heard YHF a lot, and obviously that's a good album, but it's not some kind of GOAT album for me. i have SBS too, and that's just ok. never really heard any Uncle Tupelo stuff afaik. just never felt compelled to dig deeper on Tweedy, idk why, but at face value that's telling to me. and calling Wilco "The American Radiohead" seems pretty lol.

and commercial success? they've sold like 2m records from 8 albums or something. certainly nothing to write home about...

plus a lot of Wilco's stuff is co-written? still think Tweedy is a solid pick, Mangum on the other hand...? two albums with NMH that sold a combined 146k. i've only heard the one GOAT hipster sploogefest album, it's good, but c'mon? then he's done pretty much nothing else in his career...oh wait, i take that back!

- he worked on one album for some hipster supergroup that i never heard of
- he released a compilation of field recordings of Bulgarian folk music
- he hosted several radio shows featuring tape loops and other recordings on a New Jersey radio station
- he provided "drums, cow object, backing vocals, handclaps" on a couple albums for some bands i've never heard of
- and provided one song for some guy's album that i've never heard of

and that's pretty much it. 2 albums and what i just listed. oh sorry, it seems that he was in some band before NMH that i've never heard of, who had one semi-official release to their name. my apologies...

yeah that (likely, hopefully) gimmick post was brilliant really.
Tweedy basically is Wilco. He ended up forcing out the only other guy who had any real creative input around the time YHF came out.

If you want to try to get into them, I think Being There or Summerteeth are good places to start; both are more accessible than YHF.

Selected cuts:

Being There
Outtasite (Outta Mind)
Forget the Flowers
I Got You (At the End of the Century)
Monday

Summerteeth
A Shot in the Arm
Nothing'severgonnastandinmyway(again)
Pieholden Suite
Via Chicago
Summerteeth
Candyfloss

God, Summerteeth is an amazing album. Think I'm gonna spin it today.
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08-18-2010 , 12:09 PM
Alice Cooper is incredible value
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08-18-2010 , 12:11 PM
Puffy will just promote like crazy for our label, and then team up with Julio Iglesias.
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