This. Benching Kizer every other week isn't helpful either. Hue hasn't shown me anything positive as coach of the browns so far.

but him giving a crappy rookie the freedom to make that call is his fault

edit : IOW, +1

Kizer might be the worst Browns starter ever. He is much, much worse than Charlie Frye, Charlie Whitehurst and Seneca Wallace, for example.

Still on track for #1!

Spurgeon Wynn.

Just Kizer's first season. Lots of QBs have a **** first season and turn it around.

Go back to Hogan imo

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...lously-get-in/

Analysis

Cle actually doesn't need any ties. The cbs article is actually pretty wrong all over the place. They don't need the Jets to go 5-11 for instance (Jets don't win the AFCE tiebreaker at 6 wins so that's irrelevant) or the Chiefs to win out or the Jags to go 5-1. Or the ravens to only win vs the Colts. Jeez, this article is sloppy as hell. (the patriots don't need to win out either, just win everything that's not the stealers).

They do need the Bills to beat the dolphins once and lose every other game though. Houston can't win 6, neither can Oak or LA (I think, didn't fully check this one). Denver can win 6 if one is against Washington.

538 is also wrong on the odds by a lot. They just assumed that one reddit article was the only way and extrapolated. My god the laziness these days.

Who the hell cares about this rubbish about what crap 0-10 twams need to make the playoffs.

Far more important is the odds they can get the #1 and more importantly whether they will go QB or trust the process.

It's humorous. That's the point, and most people wouldn't know they are still mathematically in contention.

Arguing the semantics between a billion to one and three billion to one must make people fun at parties

It's worth pointing out that their odds have improved to 19.6 quintillion to one because that's a lot better odds than they had at the start of the season.

I believe they are now zero with the chargers win on thanksgiving.

LOLOLOL

All though the best part is if football exists on every planet with life and everyone has the browns it is still going to take like 45 lifetimes for it to happen to 1 fan base.

At no point was I even a little surprised

Kizer's Int in OT was like something out of a Madden video game where you just mash a button to avoid taking a sack. Was he even targeting a receiver on that play or was it an attempt to just chuck it passed the coverage without taking the sack? That decision looked awful in real time.

I thought McCarthy's decision to punt on that fourth and short from mid field late in the game down by seven with only two timeouts remaining and your season on the line was questionable but I guess when you have the other team's QB making decisions like that one on average it doesn't seem as bad.

Don't give MIKE credit for thinking about that

Alienating the players is a solid start

I don't care what the playoff seeding situation is or if Pittsburgh can improve their position or not. If the Browns are 0-15 going into the last week Pittsburgh better have all hands on deck.

I've got (for me) a pretty big bet on the Bears going under 5 1/2 wins for the season. Let's go Browns and get that win for the year in Chicago!

MM MD

Call me crazy but when a RB gets 72 yards on his first 5 carries, I'd think about maybe giving him more than 5 carries.

Can't believe Jackson won the power struggle in Cleveland. The guy is totally incompetent.