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That started before then also. In 1918, he tied for the lead with 11 HRs, despite playing in only 95 games.

1919, Ruth had 29, second place had 12.

1926, Ruth had 47, second place had 21.

1927, Ruth had 60, Gehrig had 47, third place had 30

1928, Ruth had 54, second place had 31.

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09-19-2017 , 11:53 AM

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Why would you say that? Gwynn's ABs are less than 0.04 of the total ABs of the franchise.

Less than 0.04 by how much?

Just seems ridiculous for someone who had a decent amount less than 1/9 of the PAs for less than 40% of the franchise's history to be able to drag the BA up by 3 pts.

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09-19-2017 , 12:13 PM

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Plate appearances are irrelevant to batting average.

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09-19-2017 , 01:20 PM

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Less than 0.04 by how much?

Just seems ridiculous for someone who had a decent amount less than 1/9 of the PAs for less than 40% of the franchise's history to be able to drag the BA up by 3 pts.

OK, let's do the math.

Gwynn averaged 122 games per season (bet that's lower than you thought).

So let's say that's about 8.5% of the Padres total ABs for 20 years.

Padres have been around for 47 years through 2016. So roughly, Gwynn played 20/47 or 42.6% of all Padres games.

Gwynn's lifetime BA was .338 or .091 higher than the team's BA without him.

.426 * .085 * .091 = .00329 marginal add to the team BA

Obviously, the above is raw and not precise, but it appears to be, as they say "in the ballpark."

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09-19-2017 , 02:22 PM

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In 1930, Babe Ruth pitched a complete game, 9 years after his last start. He was 35 years old. Three years later, the Babe pitched another complete game. He was 5-0 as a pitcher with the Yankees.

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09-19-2017 , 03:05 PM

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Plate appearances are irrelevant to batting average.

Sigh, I know how AVG is calculated, but he played long enough that we can assume he had a decent amount of at-bats and didn't walk in 50% of his PAs.

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09-19-2017 , 03:09 PM

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It's easy to forget that a single pt in avg is only 0.1%, I guess.

Also sort of proves the point of this thread.

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That Ruth/Shore game sounds amazing. Its so sad that we dont have such gems in quality modern recorded format.

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09-19-2017 , 03:47 PM

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Just came across this guy:-

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Ridder Raymond Ceulemans (born 12 July 1937) is a Belgian billiards player and possibly the most dominant single figure in any one sport, having won 35 World Championship titles (23 in three-cushion + 12 in other carom disciplines), 48 European titles (23 in three-cushion) and 61 national titles.

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09-19-2017 , 03:59 PM

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In the 20s and 30s the Indians (and later Yankees) SS/3B was a guy called Joe Sewell. In his career he had 8,333 plate appearances and struck out 114 times for a 1.37% K rate.

He walked 842 times, nearly 7.4 times as many times as he struck out.

To put that into perspective, the best player in the MLB (TM), Aaron Judge, has struck out 240 times in his first career 723 PAs, more than twice as much as in Sewell's career in 1/11th of the PAs.

On a more serious comparison, everybody's favourite eye in the majors, Joey Votto, has struck out 1,077 times in 6,088 PAs, that's a K rate of 17.7%, 13 times more than Sewell.

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I remember reading, with awe - despite hardly having seen the game of baseball, about Babe Ruth's records as a (non-USian) 12/13 year old in some kind of sporting version of Ripley's Believe It Or Not left behind by someone. Which puts me in mind of Ray Ewry - the most dominant Olympic athlete ever.

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Most power hitters strike out more than twice as often as they hit HRs. Bonds was almost exactly 2:1. Mays was about 2.5:1. Aaron was like 1350:755.

Joe DiMaggio hit 361 HRs and struck out only 369 times.

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09-19-2017 , 04:54 PM

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Over a 4 year stretch from 1953 to 1956, Ted Kluszewski hit 171 HR and struck out 140 times.

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09-19-2017 , 07:10 PM

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Great thread.
I always liked the Ed Moses 400m hurdles stat.
Unbeaten for 9 years, 9 months and 9 days.

Obv Bradman stands out ahead of the field though.
There was a great post early in this thread that explained how his achievements aren't down to his era compared with the conditions today.
There's a a key thing that also makes his even better. There was no restriction on the number of bouncers per over from a bowler and he survived Bodyline in 1933.

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09-19-2017 , 08:22 PM

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The Ripken streak of 2632. NL record is Steve Garvey 1207. Longest current streak Alcides Escobar 303. Ripken played in more consecutive games than every current major league player has played in career games except for Beltre and Ichiro.

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No mention of Joe Thomas's 10,062 snaps in a row?

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09-19-2017 , 08:42 PM

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Yea I don't get how all these guys that pitched pre 1990 didn't have severe arm problems.

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I'm guessing most of them didn't the velocity of modern pitchers. Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature.

More likely less effective breaking balls.

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09-19-2017 , 08:51 PM

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No mention of Joe Thomas's 10,062 snaps in a row?

Pretty recent record, so no.

That is insane though, what does it work out to? Every single offensive snap for 8+ seasons?

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Yea I don't get how all these guys that pitched pre 1990 didn't have severe arm problems.

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I'm guessing most of them didn't the velocity of modern pitchers. Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature.

Used to be decent friends with an 18-year MLB pitcher during Ryan's era and asked him this very question. He said that in his day hurlers didn't throw 100% on every pitch because batters weren't as strong. But now everybody is so big and strong and fast that each and every throw must be 100% effort. Because of this Walter Johnson's 110 shutouts seem pretty untouchable. Hell, who was the last guy to throw 110 complete games in his career?

Learned some pretty interesting stuff from this guy.

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09-20-2017 , 11:33 PM

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Tons of pitchers in the past did burn out early. We just remember the exceptions. And now those exceptions dont get a chance to occur. Could Sabathia or Verlander have handled a few 300+ inning seasons? We'll never know.

Pitches per hitter is probably also at an all time high.

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09-21-2017 , 08:42 AM

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46% of the Phillies' wins in 1972 were credited to Steve Carlton.

To put it another way, the 59-win Phillies were the best team in baseball in 1972 when Carlton pitched.

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Yea I don't get how all these guys that pitched pre 1990 didn't have severe arm problems.

The mound being 5 inches higher is a reason the earlier guys never had arm issues, and could generate enough velocity with their legs. Imagine Clemens or Ryan throwing a ball from a 15 inch mound.