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Old 05-15-2008, 01:58 AM   #2401
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Agreed. Just implement like a 5 spot penalty in the draft for their next pick or something.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:58 AM   #2402
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Didn't Charles say that McHale was the hardest person he ever had to guard?
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:59 AM   #2403
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Uh no chance, Barkley himself described McHale as the best player he ever played against, he couldn't come close to stopping McHale (no one could).

McHale def owns Barkley 1v1.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:59 AM   #2404
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Without a trade, it's decent, with a trade I don't like it at all, maybe I'm undervalueing Billups a lot, but I don't think it was a lock for him to go before your next pick.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:00 AM   #2405
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Entirely too much hate on both of those picks (Zeke and Worthy).

The biggest stretch really is Chris Paul at freaking 11 the more I think about it.
I think the only reason people are hating on the Paul pick is because hes only played for a few years. I think that if we bump this in 5 years its very possible that Lebron should've gone #1 and Paul went right where he should've.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:01 AM   #2406
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Didn't Charles say that McHale was the hardest person he ever had to guard?
No, he said McHale was the best player he ever played against, at least that's what epipen put in his write-up. Irrelevant anyway as I'm sure Charles would tell you there wasn't a single person in the NBA he couldn't shut down with ease. "Best" is just a relative term.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:01 AM   #2407
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I think that if we bump this in 5 years its very possible that Lebron should've gone #1 and Paul went right where he should've.
by very possible, you mean like 2% possible.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:02 AM   #2408
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No, he said McHale was the best player he ever played against, at least that's what epipen put in his write-up. Irrelevant anyway as I'm sure Charles would tell you there wasn't a single person in the NBA he couldn't shut down with ease. "Best" is just a relative term.
And Charles would be being him cocky/wrong self. Lol at a 6'6 (really 6'4) guy trying to guard a 6'10 (really like 7+ feet when u factor in his arms).

Also not sure if he said best or toughest, regardless they both mean roughly the same.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:02 AM   #2409
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Without a trade, it's decent, with a trade I don't like it at all, maybe I'm undervalueing Billups a lot, but I don't think it was a lock for him to go before your next pick.
I thought Billups should've definitely gone within the next 5 picks FWIW, but obviously I have no clue what other drafters are thinking.

Who is up next?

AND WHO PICKS SOON AND WANTS TO TRADE DOWN??? PM ME!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:02 AM   #2410
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I think the only reason people are hating on the Paul pick is because hes only played for a few years. I think that if we bump this in 5 years its very possible that Lebron should've gone #1 and Paul went right where he should've.
And it's possible he could fall off the map like a TON of guys who haven't been drafted yet that would've gotten similar hype at his age.

He got drafted over Stockton for crying out loud, that's bat**** insane.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:03 AM   #2411
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not a fan of the Gasol pick. I heart Gasol, but meh. Interesting team though.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:03 AM   #2412
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picked. waited five hours for seadood, but he didn't get back to me. will entertain offers from him and others if they want, but i'm really liking my team a lot right now.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:04 AM   #2413
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Isiah, in this format, will have one season of PER over 20. He went at 15. The only guys who I think can get away with this are pretty elite defensively, and Isiah isn't.

Dirk will have 4 seasons of PER over 25 (maybe more). He'll have at least 7 seasons of PER over 20.

Payton will have 7 seasons over 20.

Bad, bad pick.

Yeah, Paul going over Stockton and Malone is pretty terrible, even if he's better this season than any PG since Magic.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:04 AM   #2414
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someone is testy after the Jazz game
YOU THINK? i know how dallas fans feel, atleast, and i can see how pokeromglol turned out the way he did.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:04 AM   #2415
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And it's possible he could fall off the map like a TON of guys who haven't been drafted yet that would've gotten similar hype at his age.

He got drafted over Stockton for crying out loud, that's bat**** insane.
Please name all of the 22 year olds that are top 2 in MVP voting that fell off the map(not counting injuries).

This past year he was top 5 in the entire league(and many would say he was #1).....barring injury, why would you think he'd fall off?
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:05 AM   #2416
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Why do people fail to realize that Chris Paul is injury prone?
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:05 AM   #2417
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i posted my first pick before i had decided my 2nd pick, because somebody wanted to do a recap or something of the first round.

otherwise i would have just waited to post both.

be fair though, it took me 4 hours (from the start of the clock) to make (or trade) 2 picks.

Im just being a testy douchebag, so dont' sweat it
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:05 AM   #2418
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it was a tough pick between my two favorite spaniards. pau gasol and jose calderon. had to go with size though.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:05 AM   #2419
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i'd edit if I were you. Assani ain't ****in' around son
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:06 AM   #2420
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Billups is not even close to the best player left at his position.
I don't agree, Chauncey is the best PG available (well, not available anymore!) when you factor in everything (like... defense). there are a few guys who are close, but chauncey is a great pick. i knew i wouldn't be able to get him with such a bad 2nd round pick, but i wanted him.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:06 AM   #2421
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by very possible, you mean like 2% possible.
I'd put Lebron as 40-45% to end up being better than Jordan(although unless he finds a "Pippen" I'd put it at much much less that he accomplishes as much as Jordan, adn therefore I wouldn't be surprised if many people didn't consider him as good).

I'd put Paul as about 45-50% to be better than Stockton.

This is barring injury of course.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:07 AM   #2422
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Clark do you similarly disapprove of the Howard and Amare picks? They were taken a little lower but nobody's ever mentioned them as possible best ever at their position or even MVP candidate.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:07 AM   #2423
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GKA(and everyone else),

Please list your team so far at the end of your writeups. Obviously not a huge deal now, but will make things easier for us in later picks when trying to evaluate your picks.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:08 AM   #2424
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Gasol pick >>> Billups pick. Gasol the best of available centers by a pretty good margin, I think.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:08 AM   #2425
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I'd put Lebron as 40-45% to end up being better than Jordan(although unless he finds a "Pippen" I'd put it at much much less that he accomplishes as much as Jordan, adn therefore I wouldn't be surprised if many people didn't consider him as good).

I'd put Paul as about 45-50% to be better than Stockton.

This is barring injury of course.
How is it legitimate to put barring injury in every post where you pimp up CP3. He has missed like half the games Stockton missed during his entire career in 3 seasons.

Chris. Paul. Is. Injury. Prone.
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