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05-13-2008 , 09:59 PM

#1926

Jack of Arcades

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Yeah, Iverson is a career .519 TS%. His FT shooting (and since he shoots so many) is a huge, huge plus.

League average is .540% And that year I mentioned he was .489.

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05-13-2008 , 10:01 PM

#1927

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League average is .540% And that year I mentioned he was .489.

Again, so he's an insanely high usage rate at just under league average. Yes, he epitomizes bulk shooter. But I still love him!

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05-13-2008 , 10:29 PM

#1928

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League average is .540% And that year I mentioned he was .489.

What was he been since joining Denver? For the first time surrounded by legit weapons. Plus, he's now past his prime by several years. Hasn't his TS% gone up a bunch since the trade? To me at least, that would suggest that in his prime surrounded by real players he'd have been pretty awesome.

Or, maybe it hasn't gone up at all and I'm smoking dope.

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05-13-2008 , 10:32 PM

#1929

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ok, I just looked it up.

If you treat his denver-only stats from last year and his stats this year as two "seasons", then the best two TS% seasons of his career are with Denver (.545 and .567.) This despite being past his prime. I think one can make the argument that given actual offensive talent around him at any point in his prime he would've been even better than that.

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05-13-2008 , 10:49 PM

#1930

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Clark - I don't think anyone would dispute that. Actually, it's a common argument (that with more weapons, your usage should go down but efficiency up, with fewer weapons, your usage goes up but efficiency down)

However, his overall PER wouldn't likely change that much, since it takes into account USG. (And is sometimes maligned for that)

WHERE IS TDARKO?

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05-13-2008 , 10:49 PM

#1931

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Good point Clark. And I think you can take it a step further and say that he really isn't surrounded by talent in Denver. Of all the teams in the NBA, they have to be in the bottom 5 with regards to jumpshooters. So like he did in Philly, he still has to deal with a defense that sags his direction. I wonder how he'd do on a team like Phoenix with high % outside shooters who's men can't cheat off them..

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05-13-2008 , 11:23 PM

#1932

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Just got back from work--been there since a little after 3. I will get my pick up there now that I am home, let me work on it. Holla.

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05-13-2008 , 11:43 PM

#1933

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Wow, this pick is h-a-r-d. And in about 10 picks it gets super dicey.

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05-13-2008 , 11:44 PM

#1934

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Wow, this pick is h-a-r-d. And in about 10 picks it gets super dicey.

yeah it's been killing me

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05-13-2008 , 11:56 PM

#1935

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Cool. Two picks on deck.

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05-14-2008 , 12:03 AM

#1936

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K, I think I've settled on who I would pick in TDarkos spot. But it's tough.

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05-14-2008 , 12:05 AM

#1937

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West imo ^^.

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05-14-2008 , 12:06 AM

#1938

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did td pass out?

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05-14-2008 , 12:07 AM

#1939

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I know who i would take also, actually seems like a no brainer to me

EDIT: I guess it isnt a no brainer

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05-14-2008 , 12:08 AM

#1940

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WOOO TD picks marion. I can't write up my whole description now but I'm taking Grant Hill. I stayed up to make the pick IMO. I'll have a report up sometime tomorrow but don't hold me to that as I have 15 papers to write tomorrow IMO.

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05-14-2008 , 12:08 AM

#1941

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Picked, do I need to PM tbach, he just posted?

Also, I was picking between like 5 guys. That was very difficult.

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05-14-2008 , 12:08 AM

#1942

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Tdarko is working on pulling a Mike Ditka to get Dirk.

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05-14-2008 , 12:08 AM

#1943

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wat

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05-14-2008 , 12:09 AM

#1944

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Marion..........................................ok ay. 3 Suns players in the top 31 I think is way too high.

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05-14-2008 , 12:10 AM

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btw, Grant Hill's injured ass wasn't one of the five guys I was choosing from.

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05-14-2008 , 12:10 AM

#1946

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I can honestly say that I never thought about Marion. Can't hate on it though, because he will be easy to build around and you've got another pick coming very shortly.

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05-14-2008 , 12:10 AM

#1947

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Marion..........................................ok ay. 3 Suns players in the top 31 I think is way too high.

HOW COULD THEY NOT HAVE TITLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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05-14-2008 , 12:11 AM

#1948

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btw, Grant Hill's injured ass wasn't one of the five guys I was choosing from.

Yeah. You lose some of his best years due to the age thing, then the injuries rain down like tears of a wasted first round pick.

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05-14-2008 , 12:12 AM

#1949

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btw, Grant Hill's injured ass wasn't one of the five guys I was choosing from.

Quickly, IMO Hill >>> Pippen.

From wikipedia:

"After the first six seasons of his career, before his ankle injury, Hill had a total of 9,393 points, 3,417 rebounds and 2,720 assists. Oscar Robertson and Larry Bird are the only two players in league history to eclipse these numbers after their first six seasons."

And for stats nerds, great PER and also a very good defensive player and great distributor.