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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
You said this, which means u implied guards are more valueable than bigmen. I disagree and still do.
Now I do think the gap is closer than most people think, I will give u that.
I do disagree with Kobe, Wade etc. always being able to get easy 2's, this is ridiculous. You can cut off their penetration to the hoop if u have a great defender on them, not always but def a decent amount and you don't have to double team all the time.
It's a lot harder to stop a bigman from getting an easy 2 because they play close to the hoop and can post up. And I dunno why u think it's easier to guard a bigman with "zone defenses, double teams and other defenses etc." than it is on guards. I think it's a lot easier to double team guards as u have more chances to since they are farther away from the hoop and you have more time to react. A bigman can just get fed the ball in the post and quickly make a move and there really is no chance u can double unless u were overplaying to begin with, in which case the ball would have gone to someone else.
A guard that is that good, will have post up skills as well and can post up just like a big man can.
A guard is much harder to double team, because guards are better passers and better ball handlers, they can dribble away from the effective point of double teams to find wide open men easier.
You absolutely cannot stop a great guard from getting to the hoop with just 1 man guarding him. Good team defense can stop them from getting in the lane at the sacrifice of leaving someone a little more open.
A guard with good post skills is almost as difficult to defend as a big man with similar skills. Guard has the extra option of turning and facing up, which is so hard to defend when they can shoot as well. Like kobe or carmelo, when they catch it in the post and turn and face up without commiting a dribble is so difficult to defend.
Big men need someone to give them the ball , and get them the ball in the right places. If they dont have that kind of help from the team, they can be deemed in-effective. Guards dont need anyone to get them the ball, they can take it themselves to whatever spot on the court they wanna go to.
If there is good guard pressure, for example lets say a team has gary payton, and bruce bowen as their starting guards. They can put so much pressure on opposing guards that they cant even get the ball to the post, the big men will have to come out free throw line extended to retrieve the ball. Similar to the kind of pressure the USA guards put on the opposing countries. It wont be as effective as it was in the olympics, but it would be to a similar effect.
Big men are far more important defensively, but guards are more important offensively. The gap between the 2 is much bigger defensively, which is why big men are more valuable then guards.