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Old 07-13-2008, 05:29 PM   #15101
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he doesnt really fit my team bc i could really use an outside shooter at the 2 but whatever.
Hey now, he led the NBA in 3pt% in 83-84. Sure it was only a .361 clip, but the way shooting's improved, by today's standards, that's like... .550 or something.

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anyway, the only reason i drafted him was bc his nickname is DR. DUNKENSTEIN
sounds like a good reason to me
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:29 PM   #15102
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When you have such limited evidence, it's hard to gauge, but I feel one reason people are saying Brewer > Young (and a reason I picked Brewer) is that he's already displayed a significant season-to-season improvement. Young, as a rookie, obviously hasn't the chance to, but even so, he comes with the concern that he won't actually improve.
Yes theres a chance, but its incredibly low imo. Young came into the league as a big "potential" and "upside" guy and had a very very good season as a 19 year old. Barring injury, I can't fathom why he wouldn't improve when all the signs point towards him doing so including him tearing up the summer league yesterday as I cheered him on!
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:32 PM   #15103
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whoa, Raymond Felton? Magic is going to have to go from banging 12 broads before the game to around 6-7 so that he will have the strength to play all 48 minutes now.
Funny.

Seriously though, Felton is a young solid player who looks to be a solid starting pg for years to come, your telling me this pick is worse than Young, Noah, or Brewer. All young guys who could have potential, but might not when its all over.

Plus I have one of the best point fowards ever to play the game on my team able to pick up time and run the team if need be.
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:39 PM   #15104
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Yes theres a chance, but its incredibly low imo. Young came into the league as a big "potential" and "upside" guy and had a very very good season as a 19 year old. Barring injury, I can't fathom why he wouldn't improve when all the signs point towards him doing so including him tearing up the summer league yesterday as I cheered him on!
Oh, I don't think that'll happen, either. It's very possible, though, especially if, as long as we're hypothesizing, the Sixers win the title this year and Young hits the banquet / championship celebration circuit, stops working hard on his game, gets fat and lazy, finally after a few years starts working on his game again but never achieves his full potential, etc. Obviously it's a small chance in any case, but still a chance.

And even if he does continue to improve, no one has that much idea how much he'll improve, or how consistent he'll be, or how long his career will be. (Of course, you can say the same about Brewer, but at least with two seasons of data you can look at trends and make some more educated extrapolations.)
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:44 PM   #15105
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if eligible, he would have gone in the 3rd round i think.
Not who I'm thinking of. I thought my guy's career ended due to a single injury after 24, but turns out it was recurring before then, but you'd never know it from looking at his stats/games played. Bah.

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Old 07-13-2008, 05:53 PM   #15106
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whoa, Raymond Felton? Magic is going to have to go from banging 12 broads before the game to around 6-7 so that he will have the strength to play all 48 minutes now.
this might be a good team strategy. Less broads banged by magic = lower % chance that he attains the HIV virus = longer career.

Pick is secretly brilliant.

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Old 07-13-2008, 06:46 PM   #15107
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Funny.

Seriously though, Felton is a young solid player who looks to be a solid starting pg for years to come, your telling me this pick is worse than Young, Noah, or Brewer. All young guys who could have potential, but might not when its all over.

Plus I have one of the best point fowards ever to play the game on my team able to pick up time and run the team if need be.
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this might be a good team strategy. Less broads banged by magic = lower % chance that he attains the HIV virus = longer career.

Pick is secretly brilliant.

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Old 07-13-2008, 07:05 PM   #15108
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hehe I love Shark Doctor's photo captions
Me too, pure gold stuff
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Old 07-13-2008, 07:06 PM   #15109
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this might be a good team strategy. Less dudes banged by magic = lower % chance that he attains the HIV virus = longer career.

Pick is secretly brilliant.

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Old 07-13-2008, 08:11 PM   #15110
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Felton is a very good passer, just not good at much else. There are other players like this still available. As a UNC fan I like him but his FG% and TS% are terrible.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:54 AM   #15111
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Pick is ready to go after Nicholas. Gotta leave in like a hour though.
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Old 07-14-2008, 11:31 AM   #15112
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You can PM me if you want me to post it.
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:27 PM   #15113
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PM'd my pick and write-up to capone.
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Old 07-14-2008, 03:20 PM   #15114
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love the in depth writeups from Nicholas
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Old 07-14-2008, 04:34 PM   #15115
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love the in depth writeups from Nicholas
Yea - Im definitely with you on that one...but I must ask Nicholas one thing...

Nicholas - I dont understand what you meant by extrapolating Marvins first 2 seasons, I mean - what does extrapolate even mean?....then you break each season down in a very meticulous fashion - while putting wayyy to much emphasis on TS% and not enough on Usage. I dont get it Nicholas. Your word usage is mind boggling...but just doesnt hold any truth percentage to it. imo.

Explain please.


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Old 07-14-2008, 05:13 PM   #15116
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in the case that it gets to me: i'm away from my computer (and my list) and the 3 guys i wanted here (micheal williams, dunkenstein, skiles) have been taken so i need to get home and look at my list. pick up when i wake up tomorrow (tuesday). if someone can offer a fair trade i'll accept it in order to speed up the draft (seeing as it's hit a fast streak as of late)
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Old 07-14-2008, 06:27 PM   #15117
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in the case that it gets to me: i'm away from my computer (and my list) and the 3 guys i wanted here (micheal williams, dunkenstein, skiles) have been taken so i need to get home and look at my list. pick up when i wake up tomorrow (tuesday). if someone can offer a fair trade i'll accept it in order to speed up the draft (seeing as it's hit a fast streak as of late)
lol i keep thinking about trading up to make sure i get what i want and then i remember i don't have anything to offer in a trade
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Old 07-14-2008, 06:31 PM   #15118
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I'd say that Young has at least a 75% chance of ending up better than Brewer.
I wish there were a reasonable way to prop bet this.

Also, I just realized Shark Doctor's writeup begins "The Brick adds character..." directly below a picture of him apparently shoving another player in the face
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:13 PM   #15119
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I wish there were a reasonable way to prop bet this.

Also, I just realized Shark Doctor's writeup begins "The Brick adds character..." directly below a picture of him apparently shoving another player in the face
Thats the best kindve character
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:29 PM   #15120
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BTW, Xorbie and I have a $500 prop bet which we made at Summer League. More wins on the season:

I have Golden State
He has Minnesota
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:58 PM   #15121
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Holy crap, I remember seeing Jamario Moon back when he was still playing for the Patroons down at the Washington Avenue Armory. I have no clue if it's a good pick, but it brings some good local memories.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:26 PM   #15122
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Jamario was my 2nd choice behind T Young when I picked him. Solid choice. Low upside obviously due to age, but otherwise a pretty damn good player imo.
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Old 07-14-2008, 11:09 PM   #15123
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BTW, Xorbie and I have a $500 prop bet which we made at Summer League. More wins on the season:

I have Golden State
He has Minnesota
I have same.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:12 AM   #15124
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I like xorbie's side.

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Old 07-15-2008, 12:20 AM   #15125
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I'm guessing there's like a 5% chance that the season o/u line has more wins for Minny than GSW when it's posted later this year.

Minny still has horrid guardplay and is paper thin. GSW lost some depth, but seems poised to replace it, and trades Baron for Maggette, which isn't great but its not the end of the world either. It's certainly not enough to make me think that last seasons huge disparity in wins between the two is suddenly going to evaporate.
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