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Old 05-07-2008, 01:27 AM   #126
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I think that's a pretty weak pick. (am I the only one?)
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:29 AM   #127
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I think that's a pretty weak pick. (am I the only one?)
I mean...Rajon was still on the board...
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:30 AM   #128
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I mean...Rajon was still on the board...
Good point, good point.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:32 AM   #129
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LC,

look it up he was incredible. I really think he's become somewhat underrated by today's generation.

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Round #1 / Pick #5 - Larry Bird



I had a lot of choices here, but ultimately had to go with Bird. To be honest, I think he's somewhat underrated by today's crop of kids, thinking he wouldn't even start in today's league because he's "unathletic" (funny how the race thing works the other way, too). Truth is, he's one of the greatest offensive forces to ever play the game. 20/10/6 (28/10/7 in his prime) while always flirting with the coveted 50/40/90 shooters club, probably the best shooter ever. And though he's no defensive stopper, he was a better defender than most think, especially with respect to team D. And the passing!

I don't really consider injury a major concern, either. He really just had that one massive injury that ruined him, and even then we got a few more very good years out of him. Maybe with today's medical advancements he avoids it.. otherwise I'll settle for 8 or 9 dominant years from one of the best to ever play the game.

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Old 05-07-2008, 01:33 AM   #130
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am I allowed to say who else I was heavily debating? No? Well too bad. Duncan KG Hakeem
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:33 AM   #131
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Magic's ass looks fetching.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:33 AM   #132
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I mean...Rajon was still on the board...
I'm an astute draftician.. I can easily get him as a second round sleeper
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:33 AM   #133
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I think that's a pretty weak pick. (am I the only one?)
prolly.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:33 AM   #134
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:35 AM   #135
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am I allowed to say who else I was heavily debating? No? Well too bad. Duncan KG Hakeem
I was confused why Hakeem hadn't been brought up as a possible 3 pick.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:37 AM   #136
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I think that's a pretty weak pick. (am I the only one?)
Probably. Bird was a 24/10/6 guy for his career. Sure, stats were different, but he shot 50% and was a damned fine passer and rebounder. He was the best player on 3 championship teams, too.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:37 AM   #137
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Robinson somewhat too.. I always pick Hakeem in that debate, but the numbers suggest I'm wrong.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:38 AM   #138
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KC, from what I saw Bird was a very good defender. He always knew where to send his man for help, and was pretty opportunistic..
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:39 AM   #139
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i'm pretty sure I'm getting the 80s Cs entire front line. Try to stop me I dare you
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:39 AM   #140
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So is there a minimum/maximum requirement for each position? Say you need one of each of the five positions and no more than two at any single position. So you couldn't have three point guards or whatever?
I was planning on drafting 9 centers.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:40 AM   #141
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Damnit I haven't been on the site for about a week. I WANT IN. Seriously though if someone drops out I'll most definitely take their place.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:40 AM   #142
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I mean, dude has a MONSTER 6 year peak, no doubt, but after 1988 he isn't the same player. Out of the league at age 35. I mean, he should go top 10, but I'd still rather take one of those great PFs/Cs, who play at like 15/8 until they're 36+ or something.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:41 AM   #143
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i'm pretty sure I'm getting the 80s Cs entire front line. Try to stop me I dare you
I was hoping for the Bird/McHale snake, srsly.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:41 AM   #144
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Can you feel the excitement, only 23 picks away!
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:43 AM   #145
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I mean, dude has a MONSTER 6 year peak, no doubt, but after 1988 he isn't the same player. Out of the league at age 35. I mean, he should go top 10, but I'd still rather take one of those great PFs/Cs, who play at like 15/8 until they're 36+ or something.
Bird's back problems would be hard to classify.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:43 AM   #146
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Very interested to see who falls to me at 20. Like the picks so far and the way that this is progressing.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:43 AM   #147
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Just my theory, so I could be completely off. However, consider the average fg% on 2pt shots this year was .485, while the average fg% on 3pters was .362. A 50% shot is an above average one while a 33% shot is a below average one. This isn't a matter of pure pts/shot but of opportunity cost. In all likelihood, a 33% 3 pt shot isn't going to be the best shot on the floor. Sure, sometimes you need to jack one up, but unless you can be at least an average 3p shooter, taking more than a frew is probably a mistake.

No, what this likely means (my conclusion) is teams don't shoot enough 3s. You can't credit anyone for doing what's in their best interest. (See: Baseball) Players may not know that a 36% 3pt shot is better then a 49% 2 pt shot, which could explain why so many 49% 2pts are taken rather then a 36% 3.

It's like in pickup, my one peeve is when people take long 2s. (Esp when we credit a 3 worth 2 and a 2 worth 1) - Like, run the EV calcs, it's laughable. I take more 3s then I "should" only because my EFG% is soooo high given the added ratio
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:43 AM   #148
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Damnit I haven't been on the site for about a week. I WANT IN. Seriously though if someone drops out I'll most definitely take their place.
you can still be in. You get the last pick first round(I think 35 now) and first of the 2nd round.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:44 AM   #149
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I mean, dude has a MONSTER 6 year peak, no doubt, but after 1988 he isn't the same player. Out of the league at age 35. I mean, he should go top 10, but I'd still rather take one of those great PFs/Cs, who play at like 15/8 until they're 36+ or something.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:46 AM   #150
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No, what this likely means (my conclusion) is teams don't shoot enough 3s. You can't credit anyone for doing what's in their best interest. (See: Baseball) Players may not know that a 36% 3pt shot is better then a 49% 2 pt shot, which could explain why so many 49% 2pts are taken rather then a 36% 3.

It's like in pickup, my one peeve is when people take long 2s. (Esp when we credit a 3 worth 2 and a 2 worth 1) - Like, run the EV calcs, it's laughable. I take more 3s then I "should" only because my EFG% is soooo high given the added ratio
This is why I become that ***** who throws a hissy fit about playing 2s and 1s. I HATE it.

I really wouldn't mind if the league ditched the 3 completely, to be honest.
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