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Old 05-12-2008, 02:14 AM   #1451
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Why would you even bring him up?
Seriously...stop trolling.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:18 AM   #1452
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Jack's not trolling. He's asking why HSP is.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:25 AM   #1453
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No I know...I was too....quoted wrong post I guess.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:33 AM   #1454
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Ah, I misread what you meant by "seriously...".
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:38 AM   #1455
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Why would you even bring him up?
Okay let me rephrase my question: What reason does one need to bring someone up? I am not trying to troll. I just want to partake in the discussion of as yet unselected players as others have done, without anybody getting up in arms about it. That is all.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:52 AM   #1456
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Okay let me rephrase my question: What reason does one need to bring someone up? I am not trying to troll. I just want to partake in the discussion of as yet unselected players as others have done, without anybody getting up in arms about it. That is all.
You can only bring players up if you're clearly joking or super sneaky about it.

For example, here are two answers to the question "Who should be selected next?" that posters in this thread have been finding acceptible:

ZOMG ANDREW BOGUT AMIRITE?? HAHA I'M SO CLEVER

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A SMALL FORWARD WHOSE NAME RHYMED WITH BOMINIQUE WILKINS HAHA I'M SO CLEVER
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:55 AM   #1457
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The joke of naming crap players is harmless but getting old pretty fast.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:12 AM   #1458
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Just for clarification, who have the powers that be decided we can discuss, or just name, and who is 'off-limits"?
I've said all along to not discuss anyone who hasn't been drafted, and all along people have A. Told me its a stupid rule, B. Outright broken the rule, C. Mocked the rule, and D. Described the player instead of naming him as if that actually matters. So whatever...I can't really enforce it. Not like I"m gonna kick people out or anything for breaking a small rule. But if you're asking what the rule is then thats what it is.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:42 AM   #1459
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I know I dont have to say this, but I will...

This is the greatest thread Ive ever seen or been apart of since Ive been at 2p2.

Also - how long was HSP banned for? lol - I see hes back already.

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Old 05-12-2008, 04:27 AM   #1460
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I like the idea of just not naming any undrafted players, and it would be really awesome if people would just abide by it without trying to dodge it.
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:49 AM   #1461
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nah, this would be more entertaining with a mel kiper jr predicting the next picks IMO. I'm just interested to see where probably my favorite player (post 1989 rookie) gets drafted in this. I'm predicting early second round, but hoping someone shows him the love earlier (though it's not necessary in a snake draft).

(Anyone who guesses the player based on this vague description is a genius)
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:22 AM   #1462
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larry johnson, or the glove
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:31 AM   #1463
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:51 AM   #1464
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Zo
Ok, this was fairly impressive. The reason for the date is that it's when I started collecting basketball cards. David Robinson rookie. Granted favorite player you can pretty much rule out any player in the last 6 years or so.
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:52 AM   #1465
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Cookie Monster

Nm, everyone ignore that.
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:29 AM   #1466
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anyone hear from #23 on the list.....next on the list....Nicholasp27????

he has til 2pm today to make his pick
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:01 AM   #1467
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anyone hear from #23 on the list.....next on the list....Nicholasp27????

he has til 2pm today to make his pick
its a little annoying IMO that people who never have posted in this thread or really have no posts at all have picks. they are slowing it down and are somewhat unnecessary. not that they CANT be a good addition, it's just they HAVENT been.
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:03 AM   #1468
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one has six rings and doesn't tip, the other has a nephew who sucks for the sonics.
for some reason i always thought SF#2 was actually a SG and he really shoudlnt go ahead of some of the current SGs who are very injury prone yet amazing players. (cough cough)
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:21 AM   #1469
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Your question was answered in the rules, caused a huge debate here, and caused spinoff drafts.

Please give criticisms and arguments instead of just saying that the Dirk and Barkley picks were horrible. It adds nothing to the thread to post what you just did.
I agree, I should have elaborated a little more.


Barkley over malone is just ******ed, when malone was just as good if not better on offense as chuck and a much better defender, shooter, team player.
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:58 AM   #1470
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I agree, I should have elaborated a little more.


Barkley over malone is just ******ed, when malone was just as good if not better on offense as chuck and a much better defender, shooter, team player.
The bolded part is just flat out wrong, and since you're fond of insulting people I'll even say that its ******ed.

FG%
Barkley: 54.1%
Malone: 51.6%

eFG%
Barkley: 55.8%
Malone: 51.8%

TS%
Barkley: 61.2%(7th highest of all time)
Malone: 57.7%


Barkley was loads more efficient, and thats not even taking into account that Stockton obviously helped Malone get more open shots and layups.

Barkley was a better passer(3.9 assists vs 3.1 assists) and rebounder(11.7 rebounds vs 10.1 rebounds).

Barkley has a higher career PER.

Barkley twice led the league in offensive rating, and his career offensive rating of 119.3 is the 7th highest of all time. Malone never had one season with an offensive rating above 117.8.


How about instead of just looking at points per game and then calling people ******ed, you actually research the matter before offering opinions?
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:00 AM   #1471
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Also wtf does "better team player" even mean? Barkley had more assists and shot the ball less than Malone.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:00 AM   #1472
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I do agree that this waiting sucks, but I think the subsequent rounds will go much quicker. We just ahve to get rid of the people who aren't going to show up first.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:57 AM   #1473
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Who do you guys think some of the last players selected will be? Has anyone made a mock that far down?

How do specialists' values compare to those of a second rate scorer (Bruce Bowen versus Mike Miller), considering how stacked the teams will be relative to a regular NBA team?
Undervalued imo.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:05 AM   #1474
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The bolded part is just flat out wrong, and since you're fond of insulting people I'll even say that its ******ed.

FG%
Barkley: 54.1%
Malone: 51.6%

eFG%
Barkley: 55.8%
Malone: 51.8%

TS%
Barkley: 61.2%(7th highest of all time)
Malone: 57.7%


Barkley was loads more efficient, and thats not even taking into account that Stockton obviously helped Malone get more open shots and layups.

Barkley was a better passer(3.9 assists vs 3.1 assists) and rebounder(11.7 rebounds vs 10.1 rebounds).

Barkley has a higher career PER.

Barkley twice led the league in offensive rating, and his career offensive rating of 119.3 is the 7th highest of all time. Malone never had one season with an offensive rating above 117.8.


How about instead of just looking at points per game and then calling people ******ed, you actually research the matter before offering opinions?
The only knock on Barkley is that the new breed of mid-range shooting PFs might have an easier time with him. I said it earlier, but I'm not quite sold on that theory, especially given Chuck's freakishly long arms. I'd also prefer chuck in clutch situations and on late game iso's. I don't even recall Malone having the ability to create, and distinctly recall the Chuck vs. Admiral iso shot to clinch a playoff series.

[edit] FOUND IT

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Old 05-12-2008, 10:06 AM   #1475
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doesn't nich the next drafter post a ton on video games, maybe hes on vacation too.....

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=194190

Doh. I doubt he shows up but I guess will see.

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