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Originally Posted by tdarko
Sorry that hurt your feelers and you had to try the sarcastic route. You want analysis, um ok:
Bo couldn't shoot, he could barely hit the goal with his free throws, for a post he wasn't a great rebounder. I remember him being a great shot blocker, and a pretty good 1on1 and help defender, other than that he was a liability.
It didn't hurt my feelings one bit; I just think blanket statements with no argument to back it up is really meaningless. My feelings are never hurt by disagreement; Rather I welcome it for the sake of discussion. Ok, lets take your statements one at a time here:
"Bo couldn't shoot"
Agreed completely. If Outlaw never takes a single jumpshot on my team, I'd be fine by that. Offensively, I just wanted someone who could finish a high percentage of the time when given open dunks/layups. I actually looked at quite a few guys here, many of whom actually had more offensive game than Bo but were used to being more involved on offense. Throughout their entire careers these guys took quite a few shots per game and didn't hit at that high of a percentage. I could've chosen one of them and tried to change their games, but I think its much better to take someone who is already proven at the role I want. Plus the entire "His efficiency will improve with lower usage" is speculative and only true in some cases. And even still, Bogart could finish at the rim as well as any of them, which as I've said is all I wanted offensively from this pick.
"he could barely hit the goal with his free throws"
Its true that hes not a great FT shooter(although you're obviously using hyperbole as there have been quite a few worse FT shooters already selected). However, even his poor FT shooting didn't stop his overall efficiency(TS) from being excellent, and thats all I care about. Clearly if my team is up late and the other team is fouling then he won't be in the game. Keep in mind, this is my 6th man...a role player. I'm looking to fill certain roles here, not to find a great all around player. I tried to find great all around players with my starters(although to be fair, I did say that I will occassionally start him to help AK47 find the best matchup).
"for a post he wasn't a great rebounder."
If you define "great" as one of the best in the league, then of course not. However, you're making it out to be that hes not a good rebounder and thats just not true imo. For his career he averaged 7.7 rebounds per 36 minutes, and he played until he was 36 years old(and came in the league as a 22 year old).
By comparison Elden Campbell and Herb Williams were just taken a few picks before me. They averaged 5.9 and 6.2 rebounds per 36 minutes respectively.
"I remember him being a great shot blocker, and a pretty good 1on1 and help defender"
Agreed completely. Post defense is just so valuable imo. Combined with Tim Duncan, my team is pretty stacked here. Add in AK47 providing help side and its going to be very tough to drive on my team.
"other than that he was a liability."
No, not at all. In fact, hes the exact opposite of a liability. Hes the type of guy who doesn't hurt you at all. He shoots a high %, rebounds fairly well, is a very good defender, was a captain several times so I'd say good locker room presence. How on earth do you figure hes a liability. A liability would be someone who you can just leave open on offense or someone who the other team will attack on defense. Bogart can finish too well to leave him open on offense and he can crash the offensive boards as evidenced by his 2.9 offensive rebounds per 36 minutes over his career.
In fact, I think that if you wanted to critisize this pick you should say that he lacks upside and is completely unspectacular. A liability? Thats totally wrong imo.