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Old 06-18-2008, 05:48 PM   #13026
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pluto can def get sappy. but he generally makes good points about what directions to take teams and isnt a holier than thou egotistical ***.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:49 PM   #13027
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yeah not to disrespect him or you, but i'd expect what is essentially a eulogy to be somewhat biased
I can link a lot more if you like. Basically all I was trying to do was pre-emptively quell all the "he was a head case" retorts.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:51 PM   #13028
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pluto can def get sappy. but he generally makes good points about what directions to take teams and isnt a holier than thou egotistical ***.
Since you've probably seen him the most, what do you think of Bobby Phills? I only know of the playoff games, and he wasn't necessarily talked about all that much, usually as their "defensive specialist." When I saw his actual stats, particularly his assist totals, I was a bit surprised.

That and those unis were god awful.

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Old 06-18-2008, 06:34 PM   #13029
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Huge LOL at the writeup with Wally S. Like the pick but the writeup made me like it even more.
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:43 PM   #13030
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really was considering Lee but I feel it might be too early for him. But then again he's a total stud.

I'm on the clock right? Pick within 30 mins. Still debating between a couple guys
I was definitely taking Lee if he fell to me, I think Bobbo was going to take him before me anyway though. Good pick imo, not too soon at all either imo.
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:43 PM   #13031
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so close to my pick, where's franchise?
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:47 PM   #13032
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David Lee: Very nice. Drafted Cage over Lee b/c i was worried about Lee's defense, but it's hard to say since his team is a joke.
Lookin at his roland rating and related numbers, its not Lee's fault at all.
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:57 PM   #13033
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oh and i was def takin lee

Round 6 Pick 227

PF- Joe Smith






With this pick I have selected the only player every to cost the Minnesota Timberwolves some draft picks due to GM Jesus McHale. Because Jesus McHale wanted Joe Smith so badly, that means he must be really really really really really good. In all seriousness Joe Smith provides a solid low post threat that can hit the open 15 footer. This gives me a solid PF rotation w/ Juwan (some would say money stealer) Howard. Despite his injuries he seems to have played a fair deal and at age 32 showed some versatility with the added improvement in his midrange game. He is also an above average player on the offensive glass which can come in handy when J-Smoove jacks up some crazy ass shots. He will get his share of putbacks and no doubt will be effective in a limited 6th man capacity.

Time for some Accomplishments

Kevin McHale thought he was good
Career PER of 15.6
Career TS% of .515 (even though I have no clue how useful it is)
Per 36min Smith averaged a consistant 16ppg/8rpg/1bpg
Shot 100% from 3 during his 24 year old season



Team So Far

PG- Jason Terry
SG- Michael Jordan
SF- Josh Smith
PF- Juwan Howard
C- Marcus Camby
PF- Joe Smith
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:03 PM   #13034
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I really think you should lose the rest of your picks for taking Joe Smith.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:13 PM   #13035
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Round #6, Pick #228: Jim Jackson



-At 6'6, has good size for a two guard
-Enjoyed a long, if nomadic, career, with a few minor injuries but nothing serious.
-.385 3pt% from age 24-34
-Good defensive rating when he didn't play on horrible teams.
-.825 career FT%
-Good rebounder (mostly averaged 5 per game)
-Probably one of the most mentally tough guys in the league.
-Reportedly snagged Toni Braxton away from Jason Kidd

I'm mildly shocked that Jackson fell this far, and think he is very good value here. I will probably start him at the two, splitting minutes with Barbosa, although I'm not totally sure yet.

My team so far:

Kevin Willis - C
Charles Barkley - PF
Toni Kukoc - SF
Jim Jackson - SG
Stephon Marbury - PG

Leandro Barbosa - Bench

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Old 06-18-2008, 07:16 PM   #13036
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Wow Joe Smith, really??
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:18 PM   #13037
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Since you've probably seen him the most, what do you think of Bobby Phills? I only know of the playoff games, and he wasn't necessarily talked about all that much, usually as their "defensive specialist." When I saw his actual stats, particularly his assist totals, I was a bit surprised.

That and those unis were god awful.
phils just blended in. he was just solid. made good decisions. he was very big and physical on def from what i remember.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:18 PM   #13038
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i haven't looked at the numbers to confirm or refute this, but i always thought jim jackson was the prime example of a guy whose weightlifting had a very negative effect on his game.

i remember his being so fluid and his jumper being so smooth and then each season he looked more and more jacked up and his touch seemed to just disappear. early on he looked like he was destined to be a premier scorer but it never really happened.

maybe you can write into his contract that he's only allowed to use machines.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:19 PM   #13039
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i really like jim jackson.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:30 PM   #13040
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Ok Bobbo make your pick - I havnt logged in for abuot a week now...just been lurking every other day via Phone-web and am ready and psyched to make my pick. Cmon!
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:33 PM   #13041
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chances bobbo trades his pick for the 10th time this round? nearing 90% imo
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:33 PM   #13042
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LOL @ the Jim Jackson picture. I like the pick though.

Joe Smith, eh - not on my radar for PFs, his FG%/TS% is just gross for a big man.

Wally is good here, one of the top 3pt threats for SFs left. Thumbs up.

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Old 06-18-2008, 07:40 PM   #13043
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Had Jackson not destroyed his ankle in '94-'95, and never met Tony Braxton, he would have re-written Mavs history.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:41 PM   #13044
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chances bobbo trades his pick for the 10th time this round? nearing 90% imo
LOL
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:42 PM   #13045
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guys im around, prepare yourselves for a face melter. i am not on my computer, so it will take me a little longer than normal.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:43 PM   #13046
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guys im around, prepare yourselves for a face melter. i am not on my computer, so it will take me a little longer than normal.
Want to trade down?
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:43 PM   #13047
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guys im around, prepare yourselves for a face melter. i am not on my computer, so it will take me a little longer than normal.
i think you not trading your pick is face melting enough
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:45 PM   #13048
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In all seriousness, I probably would trade up, Bobbo.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:47 PM   #13049
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Bowen and Lee were the two I've wanted since my last pick(and considered them both with my last pick). Now that they're gone, its taken me a while to find a new guy, but I finally did....for the love of God, nobody take him please!!!
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:47 PM   #13050
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i think you not trading your pick is face melting enough
Speaking of face metling...I was watching the 2008 AVm's and saw Jenna Jamieson officially call it quits and retire from "The Industry".

I hope you take one of the two guys I have on my list Bobbo...just to make it easier on me.
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