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Old 06-10-2008, 07:35 PM   #11851
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This thread died after all the high profile picks were gone. We better finish before the finals end or no one is going to finish their picks! lol
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:45 PM   #11852
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or its called the WSOP
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:48 PM   #11853
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or its called the WSOP
WSOP (or any other live tourny) are for fish imo
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:52 PM   #11854
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This thread has been chugging along fine, it's just when people stop picking that we fall into the McHale trap.
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:52 PM   #11855
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BigCat says if you don't score 20ppg, you ain't on my team. I don't really get BC's team just yet, but Im just a caveman, your modern ways frighten and confuse me, I watch your spirit box with the blinking lights and think, "are those little people trapped in that box?"

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Old 06-10-2008, 07:56 PM   #11856
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You have a habit of using per 36 minutes in incorrect ways to make arguments. e.g. Ginobili is awesome because of his per 36, or Wilt's overrated because of his per 36. I know that you know that Ginobili has less value than others because of his inability to play more, and that Wilt has more value because he's an iron man. Yet for some reason, you still like to skew discussion with those meaningless stats. I don't get it.
Clark, if two players have similar bulk stats but one plays less minutes, then which one is more valuable? Obviously you'd like to have more info(such as efficiency stats), but solely based upon that given info, you'd have to say that the one who plays less minutes is more valuable, no?

So you're thereby admitting that heavy minutes can skew bulk stats. Thats all I was saying. Yes obviously its good to play more minutes. However, my point is that the gap between Wilt's bulk stats and the others isn't as big as it appears since to get a true measure you'd have to add the others bulk stats to the average bulk stats of a bench player who replaces them up to the amount of minutes Wilt played.
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:58 PM   #11857
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That's how I can say that.

And about the luck and varience thing: maybe, but there are reason that we think of Tim Duncan more highly than Kevin Garnett. That we think of Hakeem more highly than we think of David Robinson. That we think of Tony Parker more highly than we do of Stephon Marbury. And it's because of the rings. Would Timmy have 4 if he had landed in Boston instead of San Antonio? Who knows.
I agree that the common fan thinks that way. I don't necessarily think that way. For example, I find Hakeem and Robinson to be about dead even, but I think the casual fan overrate Hakeem due to his title runs. I do have Duncan slightly above KG but its not because hes happened to play with more great players and therefore won more titles, as that was complete luck.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:02 PM   #11858
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This thread died after all the high profile picks were gone. We better finish before the finals end or no one is going to finish their picks! lol
this thread died?
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:03 PM   #11859
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WSOP (or any other live tourny) are for fish imo
yea, sitting in front of a computer all day multitabling is just so much more fun and more profitable than playing in big buy in tourneys with a huge number of bad players.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:03 PM   #11860
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this thread died?
Hasn't died but lost momentum.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:03 PM   #11861
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I (Eric) will let BigCat (Chris) know that he is up. We are going to lunch in 20 minutes so I'll let him know then. Me and Big Cat are not the same person. I'm BiiiiigChips. The origin of my screename is from the R. Kelly/Jay Z song of the same title where R. Kelly starts off the song saying "Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig Chips". The origin of Big Cat's name is that his last name rhymes with catfish so when were kids people called him catfish. The Big came into play when he stopped playing ball every day and proceeded to just smoke weed and eat In-N-Out every day and got fat. So now he is called big cat. Yes me and him are good friends but we are not the same person.
For the life of me, I can't think of a last name that rhymes with catfish.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:04 PM   #11862
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This thread has been chugging along fine, it's just when people stop picking that we fall into the McHale trap.
this imo.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:06 PM   #11863
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:13 PM   #11864
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Reggie Lewis pick is pretty grim IMO. Are you really going to play him until he dies, knowing that he has a congenital heart defect that will inevitably lead to his death if he plays sports on a daily basis? I know this is hypothetical, but I would think that knowing what we know now, there is no real person who would sign off on effectively killing a man for 20 ppg.

This doesn't come from a position of ethical superiority at all. Logistically, I just don't think that he ever sees the court in our hypothetical. I would like to see this pick removed and allow BigCat to re-pick b4 mmbt0ne does.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:14 PM   #11865
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For the life of me, I can't think of a last name that rhymes with catfish.
hahah yeah I knew everyone would be trying to figure it out. It's definitley a pretty random last name. I think he's only met one other person that has it.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:46 PM   #11866
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WSOP (or any other live tourny) are for fish imo
Damn right they are!

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Old 06-10-2008, 08:50 PM   #11867
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this thread died?
BigCat is confusing the thread with his own draft pick.



Too soon?
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:20 PM   #11868
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:32 PM   #11869
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ClassicBob comes in and kills it twice, the second time with his avatar, which somehow I've missed until just now.

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Old 06-10-2008, 09:40 PM   #11870
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its sad, but i would assume that heart attacks at a young age are generally due to genetic heart conditions (like enlarged heart, etc) or drug use, so while its not an inevitability, its significantly more likely than others.

http://www.ronsuskind.com/newsite/ar...es/000038.html
this article is basically all about the reggie lewis death, and most doctors think it was because of cocaine use.
"Dr. Munn guided the others, but there wasn't much need: On the left ventricle of Mr. Lewis's heart were three black patches -- dead spots. Such dead tissue is most commonly caused by arteriosclerosis, mostly in older patients, or by viruses, drug use or a previous heart attack."
I posted this earlier regarding Lewis, and I still think the same thing. Good until the heart stops working, nothing (clearly) after that.

upon further research, it looks like his family (and he himself) had a history of heart problems.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...5AC0A965958260

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Old 06-10-2008, 09:46 PM   #11871
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the problem with reggie lewis is that with todays doctors, he never plays hoops.
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:46 PM   #11872
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also, he was one of my favorite players as a kid and i was super sad when he died.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:35 PM   #11873
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how often are these "GMs" going to draft a player - only to say "write up coming later"???

how long does it take to write something up?...explain your pick at least...especially with a pick like Lewis, cmon.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:38 PM   #11874
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Seriously, I can do a write up in 10 minutes, it's not hard to link a picture and write a couple of paragraphs.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:39 PM   #11875
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how often are these "GMs" going to draft a player - only to say "write up coming later"???

how long does it take to write something up?...explain your pick at least...especially with a pick like Lewis, cmon.

qft this isn't that hard to keep up with
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