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Old 06-06-2008, 01:32 PM   #11251
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Hardaway was a stud, like I said before TS for that position is going to be a little lower than most.
What people must recognize also is that most players from 25-34 are at their peaks, maybe shorter. If they are in their peaks there stats are going to be inflated for their career, if they are retired or played after their peaks they are going to be worse off. Just look at MJ's stats when he came back the 2nd time with the Wizards at 38/39:
He still averaged about 21.5/6r/4.5a 1.5s but at a PER of 20/19 (career PER of about 28.5+ before) and a TS% of 47/49 for a career 57% guy and a peak 60%+.

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Old 06-06-2008, 01:41 PM   #11252
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I bat a low average. That Toronto fan, I forget his name, comes in once in a blue moon and kills it every time.

but thanks for the compliment. And Nugs win the title next year ldo.
Not w/ George Karl they don't.
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:59 PM   #11253
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maaaaaaaaaan i want picks
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:04 PM   #11254
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It was the behind the head on the break, OVER a defender, to Reg for the trey.
pretty sure it was to Mullin
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:05 PM   #11255
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It better be a face melter!
not sure what this means.

anyway, im taking bogut. will write up later.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:07 PM   #11256
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nice pick.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:09 PM   #11257
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Bogut's not bad consider the young guys taken before him. For a center though he doesn't play much D, but a 14/10 guy I think is pretty valuable, he's still also very young and passes well. THis year at 23 his block numbers jumped. TS is also solid but dropped pretty far this season. His team is terrible though and like Shaq and DH, he can't shoot FTs.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:11 PM   #11258
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btw, victor and zoidberg are both on (nicholas isn't but should be at some point before the weekend hopefully), so we should be able to get some picks out today. also, i think battschr posted earlier.
i never show on as i'm invisible; but i'm on 8-4 M-F

pick up in a few mins
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:14 PM   #11259
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i never show on as i'm invisible; but i'm on 8-4 M-F

pick up in a few mins


thanks for picking before the weekend
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:16 PM   #11260
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Nich-Can you send a message maybe for some guys you would consider drafting with your next pick just in case it magically gets back to you. I highly doubt it b/c it would mean 27 picks would have to go through but it can't hurt.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:17 PM   #11261
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Nich-Can you send a message maybe for some guys you would consider drafting with your next pick just in case it magically gets back to you. I highly doubt it b/c it would mean 27 picks would have to go through but it can't hurt.
meh, if we go through 27 picks, let's consider it a victory. no need to push that much further.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:21 PM   #11262
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I'm a fan of Bogut's. Like him over some of the Cs picked recently.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:22 PM   #11263
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Bogut:Vic's team like Shaq:2008 Suns.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:24 PM   #11264
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Is his D bad b/c of his team or just bad? Honestly I don't think I've seen a Bucks game in years and I watch a lot of NBA games. His stats are definitely good though for a 23 year old. I think eventually he could become a 20/10/4 guy which is pretty damn good for a 5th round pick. I also wasn't sure sure about his game to put Bogut-D12 front line.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:30 PM   #11265
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don't see him every being a 20/10/4.. but maybe like a 16/10.

his D is def not good from the games I've watched. But whatever. It could be worse. He's real good value at this point and I like the fit.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:44 PM   #11266
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Nich-Can you send a message maybe for some guys you would consider drafting with your next pick just in case it magically gets back to you. I highly doubt it b/c it would mean 27 picks would have to go through but it can't hurt.
u want me to make a list of 28 guys?
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:44 PM   #11267
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I had such high hopes for Victor's team when it was it was Prince/Price/Amare. Its basically a slightly tweaked version of the 2005 Suns. I wish he would have lined Amare up at center, and just took two shooters after that. The two guys that went after Harper, Richardson and Barry, would have been great.

This team has now conformed to the typical mold of a team. I wish Vic would have just recreated the 2005 Suns, but with a deeper bench and argued that if Joe Johnson doesnt get hurt, they win the title.

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Old 06-06-2008, 02:48 PM   #11268
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I picked Rondo

Zoidberg is up
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:49 PM   #11269
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u want me to make a list of 28 guys?
Nah, you can make a list of 10-15 you really want, and if they are all taken, will wait. Just postering, honestly will probally not get that far but if we do it can't hurt.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:50 PM   #11270
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I wanted Rondo eventually, think it's a little early. His numbers really aren't anything special other than his D but he's young with tremendous upside, another PG off my list, I honestly think there are guys available who are significantly better than him, but that's just my opinion.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:55 PM   #11271
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people might think you reached, but they're idiots. This kid is the real deal. Nice work. Everyone can use a Kobe-stopper.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:56 PM   #11272
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If Rondo turns out to be the player everyone thinks he'll become, then its a perfect fit for your team. The fact that there are a lot of Celts fans here will help you make that argument.

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Old 06-06-2008, 02:58 PM   #11273
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i tried to, but i just can't blaspheme the rondo
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:00 PM   #11274
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i'll get another pg soon to use along with him until he turns into the beast we all know he'll be
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:02 PM   #11275
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Clark got blasted for Mookie, they are similar players. He's really good don't get me wrong, but I believe there are some better guys available at PG. He's got extremely good upside but I think it was a reach. I know I'm not going to win vs all the Boston fans but if he is so great, he would have already been taken considering the number of young guys taken.
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