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Old 06-05-2008, 11:34 PM   #11001
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:41 PM   #11002
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Can those who have seen him explain more about his game? Is the Amare comparison legit?
I'd call him Grant Hill at PF.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:43 PM   #11003
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just watchin the finals i had to say

lol at bynum in the 1st round
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:47 PM   #11004
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I got my pick ready to go. If you take him Nath, I'll be really suprised.........
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:47 PM   #11005
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just watchin the finals i had to say

lol at bynum in the 1st round
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:49 PM   #11006
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assani, haven't you been watching? bynum's been a complete non-factor
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:49 PM   #11007
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he was like the anti-amare. clarks comparison is a good one. he could do it all and had a vv high bball iq. the fact that he won a national championship with that group of scrappers is still amazing.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:54 PM   #11008
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Manning was an interesting player. All around scoring game, inside quickness and good moves, with a jumper to mid range+. Can't think of a great modern day comp, maybe Shareef A-R or Jamison. Was on a couple bad teams like the Clippers and briefly the hawks (after getting traded for an aging 'Nique). Found his niche with the suns, but struggled with injuries. Was a member a few fun squads in Pheonix, including the NBA team with the most guys named Dan.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:57 PM   #11009
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I'd call him Grant Hill at PF.
Better comparison, IMO.

I used Amare because it seemed like the best way to explain a 6'10" guy who would use his handle and athleticism to hurt opposing centers, but their games are still fairly different. I like the Hill comparison better.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:58 PM   #11010
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A better, though smaller and far more efficient Chris Webber is another way to think of Manning.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:58 PM   #11011
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Could Manning ever play the SF?(I ask both offensively and defensively)
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:59 PM   #11012
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Come on nath, let's keep this streak going. I'm going to be very displeased if my guy is gone.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:59 PM   #11013
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Whatever you want to say. Sure, I researched him two days ago (is that right?) when I made my pick as well as Okur and 3 or 4 other big men.

All of your information is from research as well so don't act elitist.
relax just poking a little fun. it was a good post. hugs.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:00 AM   #11014
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Could Manning ever play the SF?(I ask both offensively and defensively)
pre-injury definitely. and against some lineups he still could, but a lot of the quick 3s would give him trouble.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:00 AM   #11015
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A better, though smaller and far more efficient Chris Webber is another way to think of Manning.
But Webber is a much better rebounder, passer and in his prime defender. Manning is definitely more efficient though. There is a guy he's really like that hasn't been picked yet.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:01 AM   #11016
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Pre injury Manning was a better like everything than Webber.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:01 AM   #11017
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a lil off topic - but holy ***...did you guys know that Jermaine Oneal still has 2 years left on his contract valued at $44 mill???...wow! - $44 mill to be a role player is just wow.

I suppose he can be something more or a role player if he wasnt on the Pacers and if he wasnt always a health risk.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:01 AM   #11018
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relax just poking a little fun. it was a good post. hugs.
I am relaxed yo. God I love basketball this year.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:03 AM   #11019
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a lil off topic - but holy ***...did you guys know that Jermaine Oneal still has 2 years left on his contract valued at $44 mill???...wow! - $44 mill to be a role player is just wow.

I suppose he can be something more or a role player if he wasnt on the Pacers and if he wasnt always a health risk.
He was an all-nba player at 1 point.............
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:04 AM   #11020
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a lil off topic - but holy ***...did you guys know that Jermaine Oneal still has 2 years left on his contract valued at $44 mill???...wow! - $44 mill to be a role player is just wow.

I suppose he can be something more or a role player if he wasnt on the Pacers and if he wasnt always a health risk.
a permanently healthy joneal is a mid 1st rd pick imo
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:04 AM   #11021
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Pre injury Manning was a better like everything than Webber.
Defensive no.
Passing no.
Rebounding no.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:04 AM   #11022
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Can those who have seen him explain more about his game? Is the Amare comparison legit?
More like Gasol in the post with a much better face up game and jumper. He was not a athletic finisher(Amare), but had a variety of ways to score.
He also played good team D, but was never a lockdown type player.
Manning would have been a perrianial All-Star if he had not injured his knee.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:04 AM   #11023
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Pre injury Manning was a better like everything than Webber.
I am on this side (w/ you) that there is no telling what Manning could have done but Webber was a better rebounder and a better passer.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:04 AM   #11024
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Cool...who is "we"? I live with Eddie(SirFelixCat on 2p2), his gf, my other friend Anthony, and his gf right near intersection of Pecos/Windmill. Do you wanna play ball sometime today? Eddie is probably sleeping in late, but if we played in the evening I could convince him to play maybe...but anytime is fine for me.
I'm going to call you in a bit -

but "we" is a bunch of 2p2ers here for the summer. No one other than me is a contributor on SE tho.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:05 AM   #11025
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A better, though smaller and far more efficient Chris Webber is another way to think of Manning.
Don't like the comp that much, Webber was a much better rebounder, a somewhat better passer, and overall a much better player. Webber was an MVP candidate, Manning, while very talented, never produced on that high a level. His career year of 22.8/6.6/2.6 was good, but not elite.

He actually played a little more like a SF than a PF, but had PF size.
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