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Old 06-03-2008, 07:08 PM   #10326
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agreed Butler is a + defender.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:09 PM   #10327
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Yeah Butler is a good defender.

I don't get the Bigchips joke
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:10 PM   #10328
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Guys I was watching basketball at a bar and a guy who used to play basketball in hs said Caron is an average defender.

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Old 06-03-2008, 07:12 PM   #10329
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Yeah Butler is a good defender.

I don't get the Bigchips joke
Who was his first pick?
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:13 PM   #10330
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Airports hate Muslims. Odom's dimebag doesn't help.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:13 PM   #10331
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eh I haven't watched Butler play that many times but everything I read called him an average defender.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:14 PM   #10332
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Caron is a top steals player, that is very helpful when you have two good shot blocking bigs behind you.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:15 PM   #10333
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Had this long post about how awesome Clarks team is/loving the Caron pick and my browser crashes. ****.

Anyway, thumbs up.

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Old 06-03-2008, 07:16 PM   #10334
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really is a sick team.

Ever since the trade, my left ball's been hitting on my right ball.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:16 PM   #10335
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There's a youtube where Steven A rants on Marbury but while doing so says "he can play good defense when he wants to", so this counts as an [x]pert opinion yes?
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:17 PM   #10336
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only if he was yelling
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:17 PM   #10337
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only if he was yelling
When isn't he yelling?
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:18 PM   #10338
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only when he's eating cheesy poofs. good point.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:18 PM   #10339
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Man I want some more picks. I got a bomb player I'm hoping lands to my pick. Then another that will explode all your heads at my 2nd 5th round pick.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:19 PM   #10340
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Man I want some more picks. I got a bomb player I'm hoping lands to my pick. Then another that will explode all your heads at my 2nd 5th round pick.
Same anyone interested in trading down? I got a 6th and 2 7th rounders for sale
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:22 PM   #10341
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I'd also like to note that I have two 2+BPG guys and 2+SPG guys, and 4 of my starting 5 can run the floor like gazelles to capitalize off those TOs.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:23 PM   #10342
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4?
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:23 PM   #10343
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Epip:trading like crack whore:crack

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Old 06-03-2008, 07:24 PM   #10344
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pick posted
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:25 PM   #10345
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good pick clark
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:25 PM   #10346
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Epip:trading like crack whore:crack

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Old 06-03-2008, 07:25 PM   #10347
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lol at people passing on Caron for so long. ****ing insane value in the 5th.
as has been said, its just the fact that he took a while to get into his prime that has scared some away imo.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:26 PM   #10348
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Can't disagree strongly enough with this. Butler is a very good defender.
As a Wizards fan(and Butler fan), I'd say that Butler is definitely above average but not elite on defense.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:26 PM   #10349
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Butler is a nice pick. I had him equal to Deng but only because I didn't view Butler's D as any kind of asset. I wish I could remember a Caron Butler Lakers moment but I seriously can't. Worst season ever (and consequent worst trade ever for Kwame, Gasol-trade withstanding ldo).
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:27 PM   #10350
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4?
Nance is maybe the most athletic 4 in this league.
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