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Old 06-03-2008, 06:50 PM   #10301
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all, sorry the delay. Clark is a slow emailer. We've reached a deal.

We're swapping picks this round and in the 6th round.

So it's:
Colin trades picks 165 (round 5, pick 5) and 236 (round 6, pick 36) to
ClarkNastizzle for picks 169 (round 5, pick 9) and 225 (round 6, pick 25)

ClarkNasty is on the board.
**** **** **** **** ****....I think I hate this!
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:52 PM   #10302
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I'm taking Caron "I carried a team of scrubs to the #5 seed and all I do is keep getting more studly each year" Butler to round out my starting 5.

More later. For now:

Dude is improving each year. Another 2+spg guy, we will have ferocious perimeter D funnelling opponents into our nasty frontline. Plus, he's a great passer in the true point forward role, which gives a lot of options to our offense.

A back to back All Star, he's proven he can be a leader once Gilbert went down two years ago. Had a fluke hand injury last year as he slapped the backboard, his mild groin pull this year is the only serious time he's ever missed.

Not an 82 games guy, but barring fluke injury, "tough juice" is good for 75 a year. Has the discipline to not have shot a lot of 3's til he got decent at them this year. Another great FT shooter for my team. His all around game is just what the doctor ordered.

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PG Mookie Blaylock
SG Allan Houston
SF Caron Butler
PF Larry Nance
C Patrick Ewing

JoA, you are welcome.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:53 PM   #10303
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Whew....omg I could've sworn Clark was going to take my guy. Ok, doing my writeup now
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:54 PM   #10304
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1. I'm not seeing the Paul/Williams comparisons. He seems much more like a scoring PG than a pass first one. I'd compare him more to Wade/Monta Ellis.

2. No way Oden doesn't go above them unless we're heavily considering the injury, although thats a fair concern.
1. Yeah I don't mean that their similar players, I just think he's automatically going to be thrust into the "great young point guards" equation. I think he'll be more of a combo guard than a "small shooting guard" FWIW.

2. Oden is a very serious injury risk at this point.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:55 PM   #10305
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If Butler was this good at 24, he would've gone miles ago. Unfortunately he wasn't. But Clark just made sure his team is gonna be bomb for awhile.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:56 PM   #10306
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Agreed.

And I'm pulling an Epippen and considering for a few minutes. I have two guys in mind, both of which I think could be mega awesome for me. Please to be patient for a few mins.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:57 PM   #10307
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Butler is a great fit for Clark's team.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:58 PM   #10308
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LOL at ePippen's MSPaint skills.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:59 PM   #10309
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Now there goes the BPA.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:00 PM   #10310
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nice pick, that was my prediction when you traded up
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:00 PM   #10311
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If Butler was this good at 24, he would've gone miles ago. Unfortunately he wasn't. But Clark just made sure his team is gonna be bomb for awhile.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:01 PM   #10312
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I'm really mystified how Roy went that far ahead of Caron. Even though Roy is a 2-guard, they both do the "point-wingman" thing a lot.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:02 PM   #10313
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nice pick, that was my prediction when you traded up
Was him or a guy who is guaranteed to go in the next two picks. I really agonized, but Caron is simply too awesome and too well rounded for me to pass up. But I don't think I could've made a mistake. I was too concerned Assani would take him and JoA would take the other guy, leaving me with a second rate SF type. I can deal with scrubbing for sleeper bench guys. I wanted to have a starting five I was comfortable with.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:02 PM   #10314
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I'm really mystified how Roy went that far ahead of Caron. Even though Roy is a 2-guard, they both do the "point-wingman" thing a lot.
Roy at 23 >>>>>>> Caron at 24.

Caron at 27 >> Roy at 23.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:02 PM   #10315
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lol at people passing on Caron for so long. ****ing insane value in the 5th.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:03 PM   #10316
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If Butler was this good at 24, he would've gone miles ago. Unfortunately he wasn't. But Clark just made sure his team is gonna be bomb for awhile.
Please to translate "be bomb"
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:04 PM   #10317
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lol at people passing on Caron for so long. ****ing insane value in the 5th.
If I hadn't needed a pure shooter so badly, I may well have taken him instead of Houston in the 4th.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:04 PM   #10318
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This is another example of steals being misleading for D, Caron is an average defender at best, and with Houston Clark's wing defenders will have some major issues imo. I knew Caron was slightly better than Deng, but there is no way I could go with a Butler/Martin backcourt, it would get torched on d.

That said, he does have 2 great defensive bigmen to help make up for it.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:05 PM   #10319
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I like the Caron pick, there's a good chance this past season is most reflective of his 3pt% (2x the attempts of any other season) and there are signs he could improve (90% FT%, 5 straight years of improving TS%). Gives flexibility with the whole point forward thing. Thumbs up.

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Old 06-03-2008, 07:05 PM   #10320
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Well bombs are devastating. So I guess you could look at it like that.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:05 PM   #10321
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Your team will be so explosive that they can't get past airport security.

Also, neither will BigChips' team, but that's for an entirely different reason.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:05 PM   #10322
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I thought about him in the 4th also, but needed a center and wasn't sure about him with Mullin.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:07 PM   #10323
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Your team will be so explosive that they can't get past airport security.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:07 PM   #10324
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Caron is an average defender at best
Can't disagree strongly enough with this. Butler is a very good defender.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:07 PM   #10325
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