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Originally Posted by kidcolin
really don't get your hate for Granger dude.
Not hate, just don't think he's good.
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Originally Posted by Dudd
Checking out 82games.com, his +/- numbers have been horrible for a supposed good player on a mediocre to bad team. That's at least one thing to give pause about Granger.
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BB always struck me as a great role player, but never more. JR has a similar skill set, but I think he has more capability to handle 'the load', for whatever reason. In terms of who is the better role player to fill a 3rd/4th option, I agree they're pretty comparable (not compatible right?).
JR has been a lot more durable (evidenced as being able to play big minutes) and still produce "fairly efficiently" as i said earlier.
i think i wrote earlier ITT that my "rating" of Kaman was based solely on his last year (read: year without Brand). As someone who watched a ton of his games on FSNw this year, I think you underrate his jumpshot. I also think that PJ Brown's 'type' is more common in this draft than Kaman's 'type', but that's a longer story.
'bout BB: yeah, but fantastic role player! I agree about Jrich handling the "load," but how many players do you need to handle the load? I think as the 4th best player on a team, they are nearly identical in value.
I 100% agree PJ Brown is a more common type of big; he rebounds, defends, and can sometimes score. With Kaman, he is a bone fide post player, who does those other things too... Just not as well as a PJ Brown type. He certainly isn't the norm anymore. (A center you can run offense through from time to time)
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
I'm a little disappointed that Bobbo is now using mult-quote.
Also, I like Granger over Howard by a decent amount because Granger, in my opinion, will have a much better career shooting from deep, which I feel is extremely important for a #2 option, especially if your #1 does not.
Also, I'm sold that DG is the man when it comes to work ethic and being the face of his franchise... and JHow, well that's all been documented.
Plus DG is bigger and longer, and I just love hit shooting form, my second favorite in the NBA today.
Sorry that I'm using Multiquote, after reading through 700 posts, I realized posting 100 times would tilt the hell out of people. I'll go back to non-multi-quote soon. I think your comment re: deep shooting has merit. But... Josh Howard has a sweet mid range game. VERY good. Granger is simply not on that level. Further, Granger is not that good about getting to the basket (yet).
I also agree DG wants to be the face of a franchise and JHow is more of a goofball. But I'd rather have that goofball on my team.
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Originally Posted by Mano
I remember Paultz, he played for the Jazz for a while. He is best remembered in Utah for being on the recieving end of a sucker punch to the face by Hakeem in the 85 playoffs. If anyone has a link for the video to this, I would love to see it again.
I'd like to see it too, anytime anyone gets sucker punched is worthy of a youtube imo.