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Agree that its good discussion. Lets go one point at a time. Just to be clear, we're talking about the 01-02 Kings, who went 7 games in the WCF, correct?
Yes.
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Divac was very inefficient at this point in his career. He shot only 51.3 TS% and he proved it wasn't a fluke by shooting 51.9, 51.1, and 41.9 the next 3 years. I think you're remembering him from years past. He was also a step slower defensively by this time, as his steals/blocks were way down from his prime. Plus lets keep in mind, not just with Divac/Smits but with all of these comparisons, that these Kings played at the fastest pace in the league which inflated all of their stats.
A) He created 2.2 turnovers a game via blocks and steals (probably more with charges). Not bad. B) He was a good man-to-man defender which blocks and steals don't really show at all.
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See, I very much disagree with this here. I think it actually negated each other somewhat. You only need to have one big man who can come up to the top of the key or the high post and be a good passer. The other big man can just stay down low, work the post, or crash the boards. To have two post men who can do this really doesn't help any because you only can use one of them at one time. I guess you could run the play to either side, so thats an advantage, but its really a minimal one imo.
It's way bigger of an advantage than you're giving it credit for. Two big guys who can step out and make good passes really stretches the defense. Also, you can exploit matchups with this. Say you have a center who is a good post defender, well you could take him out of the picture with Divac in the high post and still leave Webber to do work. Works the same way the other way around. Having two guys who can pass and shoot a good jump shot really mitigates a great interior defense.
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I think this is a pretty weak argument. Could I say that this team has other good defenders, so they don't ned Blackman's defense?
No. You can much more easily exploit a bad defender of Blackman's proportions (unless he's better at defense than his stats are leading on), than you can a decent offensive player such as Christie. The offense controls where the ball goes, not the other way around. And if the defense wanted to force Christie to hit a shot, he could.
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LOL...you just got done telling us how much not having good defense hurts you and how good defense helps so much, and now you're completely glossing over one of the best defensive players of the 80s.
Dumars had some AWESOME interior defense behind him to help the fact that he wasn't very quick. Webber's good and Smits was alright, but it's nothing compared to Laimbeer and Rodman.
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I'm really not understanding this "well his team didn't need it, so its ok" argument that you're using here. AND YOU ONLY SEEM TO BE USING IT FOR THE KINGS WHILE NEVER USING IT FOR THE OTHER TEAM...VERY UNFAIR IMO.
See above. Also, IMO you could've probably used a little thinking to figure out the difference between offense and defense and their deficiencies.
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That Wizards roster had one player that has been drafted so far- an aging Rod Strickland. I think its pretty unfair to say that Webber wasn't as good when he had such worse teamates.
So like I said, there is NO WAY that this team is better than the Kings team that Clark mentioned before
While not as good as the Kings, that team wasn't awful. They won 42 games (43 pythag wins), and were average both offensively and defensively. They were average. That's not my point though. Webber chucked up 3 3 pointers a game at a 31.7% clip there. He also shot FTs less frequently at a 59% rate. But you already knew this because I posted it.
So like I said, there is NO WAY that AC-Cobra's team is better than the 2001 Kings team.