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Old 05-30-2008, 12:10 AM   #9026
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Meh, Kukoc is unspectacular imo...gotta realize how much his stats were helped by playing with Jordan and Pippen too.
Except he put up even better stats when they left.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:11 AM   #9027
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I can't even imagine how many points a team like Alex's would put up on BLTJSNY's... 200?
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:11 AM   #9028
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Maggette is not only great value at this point but is such a sick, sick fit on that team that it makes up for Horford. Life if you took Maggette last round, I'd say that would have been fairly reasonable. Having a guy who can slash and finish and get to the line with Kidd is going to make for a pretty crazy offense.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:12 AM   #9029
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Except (Kukoc) put up even better stats when (Jordan and Pippen) left.
wat?
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:13 AM   #9030
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he started the majority of his career at the 3. I'm sticking with history.
Ya cause God McHale played PF and amazing Parish played center.

He struggled less vs PF's on defense than vs SF's I believe. Plus I don't see how PF's would have an easier time on D vs him, most PF's don't want to leave the paint on D, imagine if they had to guard someone like Bird at the 3pt arc who can also put the ball on the floor.

It's like Dirk but better for you. Dirk also struggles mostly vs SF's than he does vs PF's. And when the opponent puts their SF on u, u coulda used someone like Maggette to go at their PF.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:14 AM   #9031
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I can match up however I want on defense. Weak picks later on might make me switch it up I've got a flexible unit.

God just stop arguing everything I want to punch you.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:14 AM   #9032
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All this injury **** is gaying up everything.
Agreed. I think would be much better if everytime someone was injured they were insta-subbed by a clone at the same age. Then there would be no discussion about this at all. Though some players would have gone wayyyyyyy higher obv.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:14 AM   #9033
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he started the majority of his career at the 3. I'm sticking with history.
he only played the 3 cuz jesus mchale played the 4, ldo
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:14 AM   #9034
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I can match up however I want on defense. Weak picks later on might make me switch it up I've got a flexible unit.

God just stop arguing everything I want to punch you.
lolllllll
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:15 AM   #9035
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I can't even imagine how many points a team like Alex's would put up on BLTJSNY's... 200?
I don't know why you're implying that BLJ's team is bad at defense, because its not. horford doesnt hurt you that much and although mitch isnt a great defender he doesnt hurt you either. kidd is good, and maggette can hold his own. there are weaker defensive teams for sure imo.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:16 AM   #9036
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I personally am not that impressed with many of the top 15 picks teams and the ones I like aren't really amazing or anything, I think the race for the top spot is wide open and wouldn't shock me at all if one of the other teams (not top 15) ended up being the best.
well the fact that we changed to reverse snake made having a top pick not much more valuable if at all.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:17 AM   #9037
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Also I think Thunder Dan is a solid pick with nath's team (obv I'm a bit biased). He gives you a pretty solid shooter who will be a lot better on this team because he is basically the 4th offensive option at this point (i.e. a lot of open 3s) and he just isn't a liability anywhere else.

Bobbo I know it looks wierd with Dirk/Dan at the wings but I think of all teams this is the one that is obv going to need to play matchups a lot so I wouldn't judge it until the drafting is done.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:17 AM   #9038
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I have a rules question: Suppose someone is drafted and plays in the NBA but has a freak career-ending injury before he turned 24, not basketball related, do I get him at whatever point right before the injury happened? Or when he first came into the league? Or a hypothetical 24-year-old ersion of him?
hes pretty much undraftable because you'll get him at 24 already with that career ending injury.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:17 AM   #9039
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well the fact that we changed to reverse snake made having a top pick not much more valuable if at all.
No way. I'd still way rather have a top 10 pick than bottom 10. Like, by a lot.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:17 AM   #9040
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well the fact that we changed to reverse snake made having a top pick not much more valuable if at all.
it's worth noting i think it was a v good idea that we reverse snaked it.

edit: after not liking it, seeing it in action made me like it, is what i mean
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:18 AM   #9041
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hes pretty much undraftable because you'll get him at 24 already with that career ending injury.
what about if he got the suns medical staff?
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:18 AM   #9042
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I don't know why you're implying that BLJ's team is bad at defense, because its not. horford doesnt hurt you that much and although mitch isnt a great defender he doesnt hurt you either. kidd is good, and maggette can hold his own. there are weaker defensive teams for sure imo.
maggette and richmond aren't good at defense. period. saying "horford doesn't hurt you" isn't a good thing for his team. horford can't really protect the paint. you'll be able to blow by all the guys (except kidd) and score in the paint at will against this team.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:20 AM   #9043
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maggette and richmond aren't good at defense. period. saying "horford doesn't hurt you" isn't a good thing for his team. horford can't really protect the paint. you'll be able to blow by all the guys (except kidd) and score in the paint at will against this team.
Ya seriously imagine them trying to guard McHale, he alone would drop 60 on them consistantly
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:21 AM   #9044
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that's true against all teams though epipen ldo
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:21 AM   #9045
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Ya seriously imagine them trying to guard McHale, he alone would drop 60 on them consistantly
Isn't he averaging 60 against all the teams though?

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Old 05-30-2008, 12:23 AM   #9046
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Also Bobbo for a guy who was complimenting a lot of other players for forcing more turnovers than they cause you give no props despite the fact that Majerle had 1.4 steals, .4 blocks and 1.3 TO for his career.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:23 AM   #9047
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that's true against all teams though epipen ldo
Naw McHale will probably only get 30/35 vs most teams ldo
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:24 AM   #9048
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josh smith would swat mchale's shots into the 10th row imo

that tall white boy aint got **** on j-smoove
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:25 AM   #9049
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Meh, Kukoc is unspectacular imo...gotta realize how much his stats were helped by playing with Jordan and Pippen too.
He played the same position as Pippen and came off the bench for him. Nobody ever argues that Pippen is overrated because he played with Jordan, in fact it's the opposite, that Pippen would have been counted as one of the greatest players had he not spent his career with Jordan. Obviously Pippen was a better player than Kukoc but I think the Jordan effect has to be considered pretty much the same for both of them. Kind of like Mchale playing with Bird and Parrish. Anyway his best statistical year was when he finally got to start after Jordan and Pippen were gone.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:26 AM   #9050
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josh smith would swat mchale's shots into the 10th row imo

that tall white boy aint got **** on j-smoove
Josh Smith sucks on 1v1 post d he aint got no chance.
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