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Old 05-28-2008, 07:17 PM   #8401
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JoA is probably gonna be a little pissed cuz he definitely wanted Dale.. I had about 4 guys I was debating back and forth forever, who all had some element I really hated, then decided to take a different approach, fired up b-ref's full court, put in some DRtg, mpg, and total rebounding stuff and he kept coming up, thought about what it'd mean to my team, liked it, and booked it. DALE LIKE A MOTHA****A
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:18 PM   #8402
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It's been said before but I love how there is an inner circle of like 5-7 people in this draft who are all helping each other and they all very surprisingly agree with each others picks and seem to know who each other wanted. Not that I really care cause obv it's just for fun but still.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:19 PM   #8403
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btw, as I mentioned earlier....

I wanted Harper more than I wanted Kirilenko, but I took a calculated risk and I think it paid off big time.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:21 PM   #8404
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It's been said before but I love how there is an inner circle of like 5-7 people in this draft who are all helping each other and they all very surprisingly agree with each others picks and seem to know who each other wanted. Not that I really care cause obv it's just for fun but still.
I only really ever talk to JoA, and he had nothing to do with Dale pick (haven't spoken to him today). Spoke with Bobbo but that was after I made up my mind on Dale.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:22 PM   #8405
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congrats assani
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:23 PM   #8406
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Assani,

yeah I was surprised D-Harp had been available for so long.. to be honest I had kinda forgotten about him when I went with Cassell despite his name being on my file. Still I like Cassell for my squad more, but I really like the way your team is shaping out (before everyone falls apart on it, anyway).
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:32 PM   #8407
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Harper is a steal. I can't believe he lasted this long.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:34 PM   #8408
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i like harper here, although penny is not going to be happy hearing that he is no longer the starting PG
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:37 PM   #8409
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sorry I posted this in the other thread by accident (deleted it):

yeah.. you're right I didn't want him on my team. He was among my BPA list but obv didn't need a point.

So I guess you're abandoning your "Penny is my point" stance?
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:40 PM   #8410
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KC -

I forgot about DD, good pick. I'm not sure why I missed him with my b-ref searches.

Assani,

I had Harper as Top 5 BPA, and the top PG left. I like the pick and how it fits into your team.

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Old 05-28-2008, 07:49 PM   #8411
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btw, for those that haven't checked them out, make sure to look at all of kidcolin's easter eggs in the round review's. my favorite by far is penny hardaway's one. such a throwback to my youth, lil' penny was the ****, as was the NBA on NBC music
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:52 PM   #8412
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May want to trade up or if someone picks my guy discuss a trade after.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:52 PM   #8413
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yeah sorry about this. Round 3 will be up tonight. Work and pick got in the way. Probably less easter eggs in round 3 just due to less characters.

My favorite by far is Vlade's Live '95 line.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:54 PM   #8414
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"full court" tab -> Player season finders. Rest is self explanatory.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:00 PM   #8415
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sorry I posted this in the other thread by accident (deleted it):

yeah.. you're right I didn't want him on my team. He was among my BPA list but obv didn't need a point.

So I guess you're abandoning your "Penny is my point" stance?
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i like harper here, although penny is not going to be happy hearing that he is no longer the starting PG


Defensively? I would like to get a good defensive wing player in the next round(although theres still so much value in other areas that I might not) and let Penny play the weakest of opposing team's guards, although obviously Harper at only 6ft 4in probably can't guard a tall SG/SF though, so I may have to play Harper at the PG defensively.

Offensively? I think its going to be irrelevant. On the fast break, just pass to the open man and run. However, I'm not going to be running a lot. I'm going to slowly bring the ball up and work a half court game. In this type of offense I don't think the semantics of "PG" or "SG" really matter too much. I'll have multiple guys(including AK47) who can drive and create for others, and I'll give them all a chance to do so based upon the best matchup with whichever team I'm playing.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:02 PM   #8416
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Assani,

yeah I was surprised D-Harp had been available for so long.. to be honest I had kinda forgotten about him when I went with Cassell despite his name being on my file. Still I like Cassell for my squad more, but I really like the way your team is shaping out (before everyone falls apart on it, anyway).
I had Harper as the highest rated PG for a while(although I don't mind the Cassell pick for your team). Harper is the main reason I don't like the Mookie pick btw.

As for the last comment about my team falling apart, I do have to admit that I kinda wish I took Eddie Jones now, although that might limit my scoring a bit since Penny can be a dominant scorer and I think its nice to have that option on your team, as when baskets are tough to come by he can bail you out. So I'm still undecided I guess on whether I like Penny or EJ more for my team. I do think my team may be better liked by others if I had taken EJ though.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:10 PM   #8417
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Harper is the main reason I don't like the Mookie pick btw.
first thought I had when I saw your pick.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:29 PM   #8418
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btw, does anyone know what the picture I used is from?











I'll give the answer in the next post, but try to guess without looking if you can.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:32 PM   #8419
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I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that picture is from the following:



















Harper was dubiously thrust into the national spotlight on June 6, 1984 in Game Four of the Conference Semi-finals vs. the Lakers when he mistakingly thought Dallas was ahead 109-108 when it was actually tied at 108. Harper dribbled out the last six seconds of the game and the Lakers were given a free overtime, in which they went on to win the agame 122-115. Two years later he would get his revenge when he beat the Lakers in Game Three of the 1986 Conference Semis with a slew of late three-pointers.






























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Old 05-28-2008, 08:34 PM   #8420
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also wtf at: On September 4, 1997, Harper was traded along with Ed O'Bannon to the Orlando Magic for $500,000 and Dennis Scott???

Is it just me or is $500,000 completely meaningless to these NBA teams? I mean, was that extra $500K really what was needed to push the deal through?
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:39 PM   #8421
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If a player didn't start at age 24, but was healthy and had decent per 36 numbers, do you get to use his per 36 minutes stats if he you plan on using him as a starter, or is he limited by the time he actually played in real life?

Example:

John Stockton

Stockton came off the bench behind Ricky Green (not eligible for this draft) his first 3 years in the league. When he was 24 he only played 22 mpg, and averaged about 8 pts and 8 assists - his per 36 minutes that year were 12.6 pts and 13 assists (injury not a factor, he played all 82 games). If you plan on starting him on your team, do you get the per 36 numbers, or are you limited by the minutes he actually played?
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:45 PM   #8422
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You can play him any amount of minutes you want.

Would those per 36 minutes extrapolate at the same rate if he played a full game at that age? Thats up for you guys to decide. Some guys(Kobe at age 18 for example) just weren't as good as they were in their primes, so you couldn't claim that if they got more minutes back then that they'd put up huge numbers. With others like Stockton, its more up in the air. With others like Nash, you could argue that he was held back by the system(or lack of the perfect system around him) when he was younger and that it'd be different in our league. In all of these cases, my opinion is of no more worth than anyone else's.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:58 PM   #8423
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Can we figure out next time there is downtime between picks how we are going to do this? Will it be one vote? 3 votes? etc
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Old 05-28-2008, 09:02 PM   #8424
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Can we figure out next time there is downtime between picks how we are going to do this? Will it be one vote? 3 votes? etc
huh?
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:00 PM   #8425
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also wtf at: On September 4, 1997, Harper was traded along with Ed O'Bannon to the Orlando Magic for $500,000 and Dennis Scott???

Is it just me or is $500,000 completely meaningless to these NBA teams? I mean, was that extra $500K really what was needed to push the deal through?
The $500,000 was probably a contract payout.
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