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Old 05-27-2008, 11:38 PM   #8151
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O-so many Millers (3 so far), thought it was Brad. I gues sit's pretty good now but defensively still really blah although I'm a bigger Andre Miller fan on this team than Brad Miller b/c of how soft Gasol is.
Brad Miller and Pau on the same team would be sooooo doughy
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:40 PM   #8152
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Fairly important rules clarification here which I was just asked in a PM:

If a player entered the league before age 24, missed their entire age 24 season due to injury/playing in a different league/personal issues/etc., and then came back later then you get him at the age in which he came back to the league. In other words, say that a player played from ages 21-23, but then didn't play again until age 26...you would get him at 26. You would not have to have an empty roster spot for 2 years before getting him.

Sorry for not clarifying this earlier. If anyone disputes this decision then I am willing to discuss it, but I think its majorly unfair to make a team have to get an empty roster spot for a few years.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:40 PM   #8153
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Not with the decision, but with the timing lol.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:42 PM   #8154
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You can't even use PER to justify Brandon > Cassell.
yeah, here you can use defense. cassell has longevity tho. meh, it's really close. sam/tb were 1/2 of the PGs left for me, and once sam i am was off the board, there was enough drop off after tb for me to want to pick him.

in round 2, i think andre miller is better, actually, and i suppose so is cassell. regardless, he's better than jose, mookie. baron is a weird guy to fill in.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:42 PM   #8155
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IMO that means that you should only get Jordan in the 3rd Jordan era (I don't know how to make the smirk face)
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:44 PM   #8156
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i think the Andre Miller love is a little biased towards his last year with Philly. After his great start with the Cavs, he turned into a really average (although very durable) PG. All of the team situations were fairly similar as well, although this is the first time he's been the primary creator (although he isn't going to be in this league, is he?)
I agree with this.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:45 PM   #8157
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Agree. Brandon isn't a bad pick, but I don't think hes tremendous value either. Plus I don't like short players because I'd like to have as few weaknesses on D as possible. He was only really efficient that one year too. And he is a shoot first PG.

1. Shoot first PGs
2. Not efficient
3. Short players


3 things I don't like. With that said, I'm fully aware that those 3 things make me biased agianst him and hes probably better than I'm giving him credit for.
Except..
1. For a shoot first PG, he didn't shoot a whole lot. ~22% career USG, this is barely above avg.
2. Not efficient? it's not like he has a sub 50% TS. 52% TS is below avg but nothing poor.
3. 5'11 is short, but he's always had good defensive ratings/he forces a ton of steals. Can't argue here, it's pretty obvious he's going to be guarding the smallest player on the other team.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:48 PM   #8158
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Oh and seriously, wtf were you guys thinking with trying to buy/sell picks?

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Old 05-27-2008, 11:49 PM   #8159
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Not with the decision, but with the timing lol.
If you would like to change your pick based upon this ruling, I would be ok with that. I would then give Bobbo the chance to change his pick to Rik Smits if he wanted to. I would rather not do this because then you've "hinted at" Rik Smits, but I think its fair. The only thing, of course, is that you couldn't change your pick to Terrell Brandon ldo.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:51 PM   #8160
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I love shark's avatar, that's the main thing.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:56 PM   #8161
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If you would like to change your pick based upon this ruling, I would be ok with that. I would then give Bobbo the chance to change his pick to Rik Smits if he wanted to. I would rather not do this because then you've "hinted at" Rik Smits, but I think its fair. The only thing, of course, is that you couldn't change your pick to Terrell Brandon ldo.
I would, but I also don't want to cause any problems. I'd like to know others thoughts on it.

This issue was the main deciding point between my pick.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:57 PM   #8162
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I wouldn't care. I can't even fathom who it would apply to though. I feel stupid because of that.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:58 PM   #8163
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I wouldn't care. I can't even fathom who it would apply to though. I feel stupid because of that.
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:07 AM   #8164
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I wouldn't care. I can't even fathom who it would apply to though. I feel stupid because of that.
me too
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:07 AM   #8165
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It's funny, at the beginning of this we all kind of knew that MJ's team would inevitably win. I am not sure that there is a worse team out there than Mike's so far...(excluding mike obv imo)

Edit: Bynum's team worse, Horford's
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:08 AM   #8166
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:10 AM   #8167
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Also, all the teams near the end of the snakes should be around after their first pick because they will be up again soon, c'mon.
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:11 AM   #8168
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It's funny, at the beginning of this we all kind of knew that MJ's team would inevitably win. I am not sure that there is a worse team out there than Mike's so far...(excluding mike obv imo)

Edit: Bynum's team worse, Horford's
To be fair he should have 4 players on his team now but traded one of his picks. But yeah it's less than spectacular. Injury concerns plus Josh Smith is a knucklehead, not the gameplan I would've implemented had I started with MJ.
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:11 AM   #8169
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Ok well I'm waiting on a PM from Assani then I'll let you guys know whats up.
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:12 AM   #8170
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stuck on horizon at the moment.

i think any teams wanting to change their pick (to someone who this new rule affects) should be able to PM assani (although the "bad" picks that have been really, really smashed in this thread should have to stay unless they present a really, really good argument). i really doubt that anybody cares if dude changes his pick right now
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:14 AM   #8171
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Josh Smith is a knucklehead,
i think if MJ can handle rodman he can handle j-smoove
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:16 AM   #8172
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Without giving my pick away before I finish talking about it with Assani, I was down to two guys, and it was a really tough call. I liked one guy a bit more and thought he was a better fit, but I thought I'd get him at 24 and pretty much miss full two seasons, so I passed on him.

Before I made my pick I said I wished Assani was around in the thread because my pick pretty much hinged on this interpretation. He came back, I pm'd him the question (not really expecting to be able to change, just to know the answer), and here we are.
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:16 AM   #8173
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I dont care about it - mainly becuz it just happened and its Smits - and i dont know - i just dont care - but I dont like what this can turn into...I dont want others to use this excuse to redo their bad picks.
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:17 AM   #8174
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i think if MJ can handle rodman he can handle j-smoove
yeah he'd have his ass shipped out of town
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:17 AM   #8175
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Ehh...Rodman was a different knucklehead. He was turbulent, but never a selfish player like Smith. I mean, your team is still one of the best and obviously you have the best player, I just think I would've gone a different route. Perhaps you have a better gameplan that will evolve down the road though. Your defense is gonna be sick too.
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