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Old 05-27-2008, 09:11 PM   #7976
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Moreover, many guys may have been injury prone but just gotten lucky to never get hurt. The guy I constantly think of regarding this is Allen Iverson. So small and so reckless...I think hes been extremely fortunate to never get hurt.
No, Iverson doesn't miss games and leads the league in mpg/etc. he's legitimately the toughest player in the nba. (pound for pound ldo)
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:13 PM   #7977
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Iverson was/is extremely injury prone, i dont get it? He just played through his injuries
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:14 PM   #7978
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I wasn't saying that you said he 100% wouldn't blow out his knee, but you made many points about it being possible it never occurs.

I guess I just don't get the point behind the Drazen stuff. What makes him more likely to die in a car crash than your average NBA player? If i'm missing out on some key information as to why than just tell me and I'm sure i'll agree with you.

But if the reasoning is "well he died in a car crash" than I don't really understand.
Yea, I just said it was possible that Penny's health is improved for quite a few reasons I listed(don't feel like going back over that argument).

If you're saying that its possible Drazen never gets in a car crash then I totally agree with you. Maybe we just misunderstood each other.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:14 PM   #7979
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Sorry if I was unclear. Yes it COULD happen to anyone. That doesn't mean everyone is equally likely. I could explain if you need to me.
explain this to me, please. people do roughly the same amount of driving.

I did read on wiki tho that drazen was considering going back to europe, so his chance of playing a few seasons then bolting for home is somewhat likely.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:15 PM   #7980
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Iverson was/is extremely injury prone, i dont get it? He just played through his injuries
Ya I actually remember when he was on the Sixers, one game I saw (prob in the playoffs) they did like a chart of all the injuries AI had throughout his career, and basacally like every body part was injured at one point or another, it was pretty hilarious.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:17 PM   #7981
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I'm saying for the sake of this exercise the chances of him getting in a car accident and dying aren't large enough compared to the average player in this league to require us to make points about how it is possible he could die in a car crash.

I mean I could argue its possible for every player in the league to die in a freak accident, so I'm missing the reasoning behind making points about how Drazen could die in a car accident in this.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:18 PM   #7982
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I've been misquoted/words put in my mouth more in this thread alone than in all my other posts on 2+2 combined and it's not even close so I feel you assani.
enough with the McHale posts man...damn! Just stop.

hey - does anyone wanna trade picks by any chance?
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:28 PM   #7983
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i am positive drazen's death defines freak injury... no one is arguing this, right? anyway, spurs/lakers ldo.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:29 PM   #7984
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Aren't you on the clock Bobbo? Should we expect a pick soon?
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:32 PM   #7985
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I'm saying for the sake of this exercise the chances of him getting in a car accident and dying aren't large enough compared to the average player in this league to require us to make points about how it is possible he could die in a car crash.

I mean I could argue its possible for every player in the league to die in a freak accident, so I'm missing the reasoning behind making points about how Drazen could die in a car accident in this.
If thats the way you feel, then I'm not going to try to change your opinion.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:33 PM   #7986
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Aren't you on the clock Bobbo? Should we expect a pick soon?
Bobbo traded up and picked already. FaDi is on the clock.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:33 PM   #7987
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If thats the way you feel, then I'm not going to try to change your opinion.
But you still havn't given any reasoning behind what you are arguing. You are just saying he could die in a car crash. Why is Drazen such a big risk to die in a car crash in this exercise.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:36 PM   #7988
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enough with the McHale posts man...damn! Just stop.

hey - does anyone wanna trade picks by any chance?
heys now i'm not the one who keeps bring him up (other people do).
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:37 PM   #7989
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But you still havn't given any reasoning behind what you are arguing. You are just saying he could die in a car crash. Why is Drazen such a big risk to die in a car crash in this exercise.
I feel as if I gave a multi-paragraph explanation backed up with quotes and facts from wiki. If you disagree though, thats fine. I can understand your position, I just disagree. I'm not really arguing that much here.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:38 PM   #7990
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I feel as if I gave a multi-paragraph explanation backed up with quotes and facts from wiki. If you disagree though, thats fine. I can understand your position, I just disagree. I'm not really arguing that much here.
I'm confused as well. I don't see how that post explains something that led to a car crash.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:39 PM   #7991
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I'm confused as well. I don't see how that post explains something that led to a car crash.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:40 PM   #7992
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Drazen had a history of being unhappy with his role and situation though. From wiki:

Self-admittedly, Petrović needed new challenges, which Cibona and the Yugoslavian league could not offer. Across the Atlantic, the Portland Trail Blazers of the NBA had already used their third round pick on young Petrović in 1986. However, he decided to postpone his departure to the United States and in 1988 signed with Real Madrid instead, for at that time a hefty sum of around US$ 4 million


The beginning of the 1990-1991 season brought Petrović's frustration to a climax, as his playing time dropped to 7 minutes a game.[13] At his insistence, 38 games into the season (in 20 of which Petrović didn't see any playing time), a three-way trade with the Denver Nuggets sent him to the New Jersey Nets in exchange for a first-round pick in the following draft

He was contemplating departure from the Nets, disappointed with tension between himself and, to his belief, envious teammates, as well as the fact that the Nets had not yet extended his contract. He told American reporters that the lack of recognition in the league had him also considering leaving the NBA completely and playing club basketball in Greece.

For personal reasons, Petrović decided not to return to Croatia from Poland together with his teammates, but in a private vehicle.
Is this it what you are referring to?
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:42 PM   #7994
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but I also made quite a few other posts regarding the issue too. At this point, I don't think any of us are changing our minds though, as this isn't something that can be proven. Much like the Penny debate, perhaps it'd be best to just leave it at that.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:43 PM   #7995
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In all seriousness, could you please explain to us how that translates into him being more likely to die in a car crash than the average NBA player?

I am just really confused and feel like I am missing something here.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:44 PM   #7996
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but I also made quite a few other posts regarding the issue too. At this point, I don't think any of us are changing our minds though, as this isn't something that can be proven. Much like the Penny debate, perhaps it'd be best to just leave it at that.
I don't think we have any idea what we'd change in your mind because we don't see what logic you are using to back the Drazen claim up.

We just want you to explain your reasoning, I could care less if you change your mind. You just seem to be really cryptic about this and I don't know why.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:44 PM   #7997
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In all seriousness, could you please explain to us how that translates into him being more likely to die in a car crash than the average NBA player?

I am just really confused and feel like I am missing something here.
+1, Assani are u leveling us or something wtf
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:46 PM   #7998
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im w/ epi and franchise, i dont get the link between him being more likely to die.

i hope fadi goes, bc than steroid and i will knock ours out
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:46 PM   #7999
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No, not leveling. Gonna go play ball at the gym now, will be back later to discuss more.
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No, not leveling. Gonna go play ball at the gym now, will be back later to discuss more.
lol wtf
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