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Old 05-26-2008, 07:23 PM   #7476
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Bobbo or KLJ or anyone else who has saw a ton of Martin.

Would you think that if I play a team with good SG/SF's that I could put Martin on the PG? I feel like he should have the speed to somewhat keep up with them especially when you factor in his length (he should be a good 5-7 inches taller than the PG). Plus PG's don't really post up at all.

I know Billups can guard most SG's very well too so I don't think moving him there on D would be an issue.
Heh, at first I read this as "playing the PG" position, and I wore a horrified look (only briefly, tho). I hate not being able to say players, but there were a couple teams (I think 2) where KMart did this, but the teams where he guarded the PG was an energy conserve type deal where 2 stipulations were met:
1. Opponents had a small SG so that the kings PG didn't have a mismatch
2. Opponents had a PG that didn't drive constantly, so Kmart's height was a huge advantage in contesting shots.

So, I think vs some teams you could do it, and it would be a great great game adjustment, but as a generality, you don't want him guarding the point.

edit: The kings had another really poor wing defender that saw playing time when Artest was suspended/hurt, so they used a decent amount of zone defense too.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:24 PM   #7477
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Actually I think this is a very excellent pick with Karl Malone, because if you go against a team that is playing a little smaller you can easily play Malone/Jamison at 4/5. Also gives you two very good options at the forward spot... THIS is a team that could also really use a super efficient PG.
like a, i dunno, john stockton
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:24 PM   #7478
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Heh, at first I read this as "playing the PG" position, and I wore a horrified look (only briefly, tho). I hate not being able to say players, but there were a couple teams (I think 2) where KMart did this, but the teams where he guarded the PG was an energy conserve type deal where 2 stipulations were met:
1. Opponents had a small SG so that the kings PG didn't have a mismatch
2. Opponents had a PG that didn't drive constantly, so Kmart's height was a huge advantage in contesting shots.

So, I think vs some teams you could do it, and it would be a great great game adjustment, but as a generality, you don't want him guarding the point.
ok cool (ya i'm obv not crazy enough to have him play pg, just defend the pg heh)
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:24 PM   #7479
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Would you think that if I play a team with good SG/SF's that I could put Martin on the PG?
I would estimate Martin would look something like Farmar vs. Paul against a good PG, and could guard fairly effectively a decent amount of PGs in the NBA. however, in this super-league I'd estimate he'd have trouble with the top 30 or so (just eyeballing). after all, marbury has a SICK crossover
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:24 PM   #7480
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As someone who has watched Kevin a ton in college in the NBA, I'm not sure there are a lot of PG's I would trust him to guard.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:25 PM   #7481
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AC, given you're 2 picks away, can you PM someone your top 3 list?
My list is kinda wide open and I have nowhere near made a decision, which would obviously change with the next two picks.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:26 PM   #7482
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I would estimate Martin would look something like Farmar vs. Paul against a good PG, and could guard fairly effectively a decent amount of PGs in the NBA. however, in this super-league I'd estimate he'd have trouble with the top 30 or so (just eyeballing). after all, marbury has a SICK crossover
aite cool ty, I will prob in general just end up putting him on the worst offensive threat out of the pg/sg/sf
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:26 PM   #7483
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As someone who has watched Kevin a ton in college in the NBA, I'm not sure there are a lot of PG's I would trust him to guard.
again, just so im clear (I think i am, but repetition doesn't hurt!) these are my sentiments, that most pgs this is a mistake, but vs some it works great. (KLJ estimated 30 of your 39 opponents this would be a mistake, i have no idea the number, but it's probably more like 35 out of 39 this is a mistake)
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:26 PM   #7484
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Next 3 picks right? Shark Doctor, Alex, me, then AC.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:31 PM   #7485
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Next 3 picks right? Shark Doctor, Alex, me, then AC.
Oh right, assumed Shark already picked, I guess we're waiting on his recap.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:31 PM   #7486
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god if both of my players last to the turn my team is gonna be sick, imo
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:40 PM   #7487
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Guys I have no clue on my pick, if Alex was online I might stay up to hack this one out but I dont really want to have to give a list of picks when Im not even certain at all. Hate to be the stopper to this great run of picks, but as Im a Euro at least my pick should be up early tommorow for you guys.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:42 PM   #7488
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Oh right, assumed Shark already picked, I guess we're waiting on his recap.
sorry guys - I still havnt decided who Im going with. So many options...I can go big at the 5 or smaller at the 2...I dont see a clear BPA right now...tbh - the BPA imo does not even play the 5 or 2 spot...and thats what Im in need of.

Since Alex is not even around - I guess Im not in a total rush...not tying to be an ahole - just want to make sure I make the correct pick...as this pick will most likely define my teams offense.

(gimme 20-30 minutes max)
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:43 PM   #7489
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Interested in trading down Shark?
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:48 PM   #7490
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Interested in trading down Shark?
offer away....

actually - I would prefer to trade with siomene with a better pick...

ie. Bobbo or roid boy
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:49 PM   #7491
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k i'll pm u
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:04 PM   #7492
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ok guys - I will wait around til Alex shows up to make my pick...because Im waiting to see if Steroid Boy wants to accept my trade offer...so - whatever comes up first will dictate what I do.

If Alex shows up - I will post my pick...if Roid Boy respeonds to my PM then we'll take it from there immediately.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:17 PM   #7493
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good luck with the trade. he was just on 2 hours ago, so im sure he knows its his pick very soon
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:20 PM   #7494
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ok - Roid Boy said no to the proposal...and I will publicly say no to TBachs proposal...so I will just put my pick up shortly.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:25 PM   #7495
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Alex is online too.

If you guys go fast, I'll likely still have time to either pick or trade. I've got about 30 mins.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:26 PM   #7496
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Alex is online too.

If you guys go fast, I'll likely still have time to either pick or trade. I've got about 30 mins.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:26 PM   #7497
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I'm here. I have two players in mind, so I should have my pick up within 20-30 minutes after shark doctor.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:27 PM   #7498
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SD: if you dont want to give advance warning of your pick to us, maybe at least PM .Alex. so he can get to deciding?
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:41 PM   #7499
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Round 3 Pick 110
Richard Hamilton



I will edit the write up - just got the pick up right now.

In short - RIP is like a frickin energizer bunny...has better Stamina then Ron Jeremy and can create his own offense as well as be a recipient of a Chris Paul dime...hes a great finisher...and a great addition at the 2 spot. He fits into the run n gun style my team is going to be playing and brings 2 championships and 3 All Star games along with him.

And he is quite the opposite of Jamison...as his numbers actually dont tell the full story of how valuable of a player he is. Hes a very good slasher, one of the best mid range shots in the game, can get to the line and just added a deadly 3 point shot to his repetoire the last 3 years.

Im surprised he lasted this long in the draft and am really happy to be picking Richard Hamilton.

Will put up stats and everything when I edit this...just putting it up quick so Alex can make his pick.

Roster:
Chris Paul
Terry Cummings
RIP

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