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Old 05-26-2008, 07:08 PM   #7451
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Jamison is like the poster child for misleading stats imo. VVV Good numbers, but as a real life basketball player not as good.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:09 PM   #7452
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"flyingmoose has three 4th rounders (wow?)."

wait, he traded again? sheesh
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:10 PM   #7453
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"flyingmoose has three 4th rounders (wow?)."

wait, he traded again? sheesh
No he has his own 4th rounder + my 2 4th rounders from the KMart trade.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:10 PM   #7454
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Jamison gives great production for a 3rd rounder but I had no clue which team he would fit best on. tweeners are tough.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:11 PM   #7455
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Jamison is like the poster child for misleading stats imo. VVV Good numbers, but as a real life basketball player not as good.
He also isn't that efficent either, nor is a good defender (I feel like you need at least one of these 2 for a 3rd rounder). I don't like the pick, I think there are a good amount of better players avaliable.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:11 PM   #7456
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Jamison is like the poster child for misleading stats imo. VVV Good numbers, but as a real life basketball player not as good.
Meh, his adjusted +/- have always been good, solid roland ratings and so forth... I mean, he semi-carried the Wizards team this year, I do think his stats are somewhat over inflated, but this pick seems like good value. I never believed he was a good rebounder but I guess i'm wrong.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:11 PM   #7457
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Eurgh, his stats seem good at times, but I generally dont like Antwan. Someone else said it a while ago and I agree, he's one of the worst "good" players in the league right now.
i watched a lot of wizards games due to my bobbo bet and i completely disagree. i think jamison is a great scorer. he has very good post moves and can sweep thru the lane with a hook. hes a good shooter too. he also gets a lot of boards for easy layins.

i think hes a very smart player as far as gameplay actually. he does get too emotional at times which is good and bad.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:13 PM   #7458
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his defense isn't anything to write home about, but i always felt like jamison was a true 3, and it might create some matchup problems considering he has pretty good size/weight and post skills

oh, FYI also i added a "teams" tab (you can see a link to it on the top left) to the google spreadsheet to track who is on which team so far
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...r1EoIoaA&gid=0
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:13 PM   #7459
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this is the toughest decision Ive had to make since I pressed the doomswitch on Matusow while I was on a group tour at the FTP headquarters.


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Old 05-26-2008, 07:14 PM   #7460
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victor, i ended up watching far more cavs games than i should have. (wtf, they always won by 1 or 2 pts! screw PD)

is shark doctor around? this draft is awesome when picks are rollin' in
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:14 PM   #7461
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jamison>iguodala imo.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:15 PM   #7462
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Is Alex around? I'm pseudo available for about 2 hours in case he fires away.

Will consider trading down again depending on the two picks in front of me.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:15 PM   #7463
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his defense isn't anything to write home about, but i always felt like jamison was a true 3, and it might create some matchup problems considering he has pretty good size/weight and post skills

oh, FYI also i added a "teams" tab (you can see a link to it on the top left) to the google spreadsheet to track who is on which team so far
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...r1EoIoaA&gid=0
cool spreadsheet, by anyway to do "teams" by the normal way? ergh, i mean:
PG
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SF
PF
C
Backup PG
Backup Wing
Backup Big
Utility
Coach

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Old 05-26-2008, 07:15 PM   #7464
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jamison>iguodala imo.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:15 PM   #7465
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jamison>iguodala imo.
wow I def disagree with this
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:18 PM   #7466
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jamison>iguodala imo.
Wow, I completely disagree.

As Alex isnt online I think this Euro might be going to bed soon, nice run on picks tho guys.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:18 PM   #7467
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cool spreadsheet, by anyway to do "teams" by the normal way? ergh, i mean:
PG
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Backup PG
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Backup Big
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Coach

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it's not hard to do, the reason i didn't is because of all of the uncertainties due to multi-positional players, and i would be forced to make team decisions for people, even if only temporary.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:18 PM   #7468
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throw a "+1" for disagreeing about jamison vs AI squared.

AI > Antawn.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:18 PM   #7469
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victor, i ended up watching far more cavs games than i should have. (wtf, they always won by 1 or 2 pts! screw PD)
lebron factor ldo
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:19 PM   #7470
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Wow, I completely disagree.

As Alex isnt online I think this Euro might be going to bed soon, nice run on picks tho guys.
AC, given you're 2 picks away, can you PM someone your top 3 list?
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:20 PM   #7471
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Bobbo or KLJ or anyone else who has saw a ton of Martin.

Would you think that if I play a team with good SG/SF's that I could put Martin on the PG? I feel like he should have the speed to somewhat keep up with them especially when you factor in his length (he should be a good 5-7 inches taller than the PG). Plus PG's don't really post up at all.

I know Billups can guard most SG's very well too so I don't think moving him there on D would be an issue.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:20 PM   #7472
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I'm already second guessing the pick because immediately after I hit send, I thought of someone I think would be a better fit. Still, I think Jamison is a good bit better than most people are giving him credit for. His game is far from pretty, but he still gets it done to the tune of 20 and 8.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:20 PM   #7473
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obv iggy is better rite now. but jamison career>iggy career
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:21 PM   #7474
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Actually I think this is a very excellent pick with Karl Malone, because if you go against a team that is playing a little smaller you can easily play Malone/Jamison at 4/5. Also gives you two very good options at the forward spot... THIS is a team that could also really use a super efficient PG.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:22 PM   #7475
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Joe Johnson is, indeed, very underrated in this thread
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