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Old 05-22-2008, 12:57 AM   #6101
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man td im anxiously awaiting your pick
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:57 AM   #6102
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man td im anxiously awaiting your pick
me too, on deck nerves kicking in.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:05 AM   #6103
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Ok about to post it.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:13 AM   #6104
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Shane Battier. IMO Horrible horrible pick So many B(etter)PA here and better defensive specialists.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:13 AM   #6105
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And Artest wore 93 in reference to Souls of Mischief's debut album! This is how Artest chills.

The flagrant fouls in the allstar game is AWESOME.

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Old 05-22-2008, 01:13 AM   #6106
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Darko you just probally need a pure shooter. You have 2 excellent defenders in Marion and Battier. Battier is a good 3 point shooter but I wouldn't call him a scorer by any means. Probally need a post defender later but there are still pure guys left.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:15 AM   #6107
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Darko you just probally need a pure shooter. You have 2 excellent defenders in Marion and Battier. Battier is a good 3 point shooter but I wouldn't call him a scorer by any means..
OH I have a great sleeper pick for this if anyone needs it. $25 on stars, PM me.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:15 AM   #6108
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i disagree with darko's team, but i'll reserve judgement until the rest of the team fills out.

i posted a writeup for my pick earlier in this thread, what should i do with it?

i can either post it in the "draft only" thread, or PM to a mod? or something else?
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:16 AM   #6109
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Shane Battier. IMO Horrible horrible pick So many B(etter)PA here and better defensive specialists.
I think it's a great pick. Low bulk, high efficieny O (Battier) has a lot more value than high bulk, low efficiency (Artest). I think he is a good fit here too.
I didn't love the Deron pick as much as the others did, but now I really like how this team is coming together.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:16 AM   #6110
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PM to a mod they'll re-edit the draft only thread.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:16 AM   #6111
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I am working on my write up right now, got my guy ready to roll...
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:17 AM   #6112
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Battier was one of the guys I was targeting, but I thought he'd last until the early fourth... I think he's underrated if you've got someone who can draw defenses inward, and obv. he's a sick defender.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:19 AM   #6113
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i love battier as much as the next guy but this is a reach
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:20 AM   #6114
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hate the Battier pick. He wasn't even the 2nd best guy on the post-Yao Rockets...

I can think like a dozen great versatile/do-everything guys right now who are significantly better than him.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:22 AM   #6115
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if there ever was a trade down spot, this was it imo. i could be proven wrong, but as others have said, i think there are defensive specialists on his level, only they do more, too.

i do love his defense, tho. people have fallen in love with defense right now.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:23 AM   #6116
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I don't see how your team is going to score in a half court set honestly. Defensively very solid though. And is Marion playing the 4 or is Battier playing the 2? Don't like either of those.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:24 AM   #6117
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i do love his defense, tho. people have fallen in love with defense right now.
Seriously which is hilarious because in this league every team will have at least 1 guy who can do things that are indefensible. On the other hand people are drafting guys that put up good numbers but can't do shi* when an elite defender is on him (Peja COUGH COUGH).
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:29 AM   #6118
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I don't see how your team is going to score in a half court set honestly.
this is what i was worried about
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:29 AM   #6119
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I don't see how your team is going to score in a half court set honestly. Defensively very solid though. And is Marion playing the 4 or is Battier playing the 2? Don't like either of those.
You don't see how a team of Deron and Marion are going to score in the half court? Eh? Deron/Marion/Battier are 3 of the most efficient guys in the league and you've got a pretty good defensive team going.

The team plays a little small and likes to run but there's no doubt they could score in a half court set.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:29 AM   #6120
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Clark,

edit into OP plz: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=5725

All,

what's with all this defensive specialist bull****? Battier is a pretty terrible pick here. We're picking out of an almost 30 year period. You don't think you can find defensive studs later on down the line? You need to score son.

Re: Artest,

He's like literally crazy. It's awesome and a little unnerving at the same time. He just seems "off" at times.. in interviews, acting like he's hyped on the bench. It's hard to describe.

Re: Wallace links,

ty. He's the best. There's one thing on the Elevator Man site about him beasting in a UNC practice that's soooo awesome.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:32 AM   #6121
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The battier pick pretty much guarantees I will get one of the players I wanted to get in my spot. Thank you for that. I will be looking to redeem myself from the bynum pick. Im still sure if I should go huckabee with my pick or ron paul. I have a couple of each type of players lined up.

I will be at commerce until about 5am pacific time, and will check the board if Im up by then I will make my pick, otherwise I will be asleep until about 4pm and will make my pick then.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:32 AM   #6122
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You don't see how a team of Deron and Marion are going to score in the half court? Eh? Deron/Marion/Battier are 3 of the most efficient guys in the league and you've got a pretty good defensive team going.

The team plays a little small and likes to run but there's no doubt they could score in a half court set.
i guess i too should hold off judgment until a starting 5 is in place, but i really have serious doubts about td's team atm.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:33 AM   #6123
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You don't see how a team of Deron and Marion are going to score in the half court? Eh? Deron/Marion/Battier are 3 of the most efficient guys in the league and you've got a pretty good defensive team going.

The team plays a little small and likes to run but there's no doubt they could score in a half court set.
disagree
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:33 AM   #6124
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For peole who like the Artest pick and hate Battier: do you think bulk inefficient scoring is better than limited but efficient scoring? Or do you think that Artest D >> Battier D?
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:33 AM   #6125
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The battier pick pretty much guarantees I will get one of the players I wanted to get in my spot. Thank you for that. I will be looking to redeem myself from the bynum pick. Im still sure if I should go huckabee with my pick or ron paul. I have a couple of each type of players lined up.

I will be at commerce until about 5am pacific time, and will check the board if Im up by then I will make my pick, otherwise I will be asleep until about 4pm and will make my pick then.
lets just hope sammy is still reading then
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