Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Sporting Events Discussion centered around sporting events.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-20-2008, 12:19 PM   #5126
D104
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
D104's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In a better place.
Posts: 18,272
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

I totally forgot about Jefferson. Wow. Good pick. Don't compare him to Bynum, though, it does you a disservice. Since he is young, there obv is some preditcting here, but with 4 seasons under his belt, steady improvement every year, and a full season @ 21/11 +50% FG, this is a good indicator of a productive career.

I'm liking this pick more by the second. Any injury concerns with Big Al?

D
D104 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:20 PM   #5127
D104
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
D104's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In a better place.
Posts: 18,272
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

I also like the increase in FT% every year, now @ 72%. Respectable.
D104 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:23 PM   #5128
Green Kool Aid
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Green Kool Aid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,901
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

50 percent shooting on 17.6 shots/game with Telfair, Jaric, and McCants getting most of the backcourt minutes is remarkable. Also was forced to play the center position, when he is a natural power forward.

His free throw shooting has improved every year since he's come into the league, up to 72.1 percent this year. Was also the second best offensive rebounder in the league, along with only averaging 2 turnovers per game despite a very high usage.

His defense has improved mightily as well, as he has upped his blocked shot numbers, and decreased his foul numbers as he matures. The scary thing is that he is still improving.

This was an excellent, excellent pick, as Big Al is possibly the best post scorer in the entire league.
Green Kool Aid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:23 PM   #5129
ClarkNasty
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
ClarkNasty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: 10x the man Clarkmeister is
Posts: 35,385
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Dislike the AlJef pick too.
ClarkNasty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:23 PM   #5130
EPiPeN11
banned
 
EPiPeN11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: akon is the goat
Posts: 18,605
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Also Assani since u gave a bunch of sarcastic hearts, I am very interested in hearing who you think benefits more from this format than McHale does (that has already been drafted).

I can only think of possibly Grant Hill and that's it (but I don't really know much about his injury etc and it looks like a lot of people on here don't consider it a freak injury).
EPiPeN11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:25 PM   #5131
Green Kool Aid
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Green Kool Aid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,901
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Wow I love that pick I wanted him so badly.
Green Kool Aid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:26 PM   #5132
Green Kool Aid
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Green Kool Aid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,901
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Clark,

How much of your dislike of Big Al stems from the fact that he used to be a Celtic? 90 percent? 99 percent?
Green Kool Aid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:29 PM   #5133
kidcolin
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
kidcolin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: thank god for the hatchery
Posts: 108,763
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

I wanted to pick up Big Al but in the 3rd or 4th round. He's basically Boozer with less injury concern but also less of a track record. (no I'm not saying their games are identical so don't jump all over me epip)
kidcolin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:31 PM   #5134
kidcolin
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
kidcolin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: thank god for the hatchery
Posts: 108,763
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Quote:
Any injury concerns with Big Al?
Had some ankle and weight issues when he was young. I don't think either are a major concern.
kidcolin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:31 PM   #5135
D104
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
D104's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In a better place.
Posts: 18,272
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

oh ****, just saw Jefferson getting paired with Bryant. Sickscksicksick. Good draftin, yo.
D104 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:32 PM   #5136
Steroid Boy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Steroid Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Backpacking Bananas
Posts: 42,156
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

dslafkjflkjfpoiw3quopjkdlkjdsfcv8nqp34u59pqfkwsfck ajvnfuwqp98ujfwqoiudrk

al jefferson


ajsdfoiwaejrpiuq32p98rujfiasd89cpewqur0931jk
Steroid Boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:33 PM   #5137
kidcolin
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
kidcolin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: thank god for the hatchery
Posts: 108,763
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

GKA is right that he's improved on defense, but he's still really bad
kidcolin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:39 PM   #5138
Green Kool Aid
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Green Kool Aid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,901
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by kidcolin View Post
GKA is right that he's improved on defense, but he's still really bad
he has improved drastically. he used to be amare stoudemire level bad, and i'd say he's better than boozer at this point defensively. he's just so quick and such a hard worker that he will at least end up an average front court defender.
Green Kool Aid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:39 PM   #5139
D104
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
D104's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In a better place.
Posts: 18,272
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

who has seadood's pick?
D104 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:41 PM   #5140
AC-Cobra
Pooh-Bah
 
AC-Cobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Giving a **** when it's not my turn
Posts: 5,207
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Wow lots has happened since I last checked in.

Love the Mullins pick, love the Cummings pick. I'm with everyone who doesnt have a clue how Boozer and Dirk are gonna work together. Starbury is puke inducing. If anyone needs anymore proof that the guy is bat**** insane and inducive to a losing team, read "The Last Shot" by Darcy Frey (book that just followed four high school players, one turned out to be Starbury, great book.

Hate the Oneil pick, guy has injury problems, attitude problems and isnt THAT good on either end of the floor. I love Al Jefferson but think he's a reach and a half in this spot.
AC-Cobra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:43 PM   #5141
kidcolin
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
kidcolin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: thank god for the hatchery
Posts: 108,763
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

I dunno.. I need 2-3 more years of similar productivity to support this pick. This was his first full season. But I'm starting to warm up to it since Big Al is in my fave 5
kidcolin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 12:46 PM   #5142
Green Kool Aid
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Green Kool Aid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,901
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by kidcolin View Post
I dunno.. I need 2-3 more years of similar productivity to support this pick. This was his first full season. But I'm starting to warm up to it since Big Al is in my fave 5
i was about to list my fave five but then didn't want to get banned.

i should probably change my location quote too given that it's referencing a 23 year old player who has already put up a 20.9 PER on a 66 win team.
Green Kool Aid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 01:04 PM   #5143
kidcolin
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
kidcolin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: thank god for the hatchery
Posts: 108,763
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Laimbeer is a good pick. He's very awesome. However, I'm a little worried that both he and KG are both fond of 17 foot jumpers. I'm sure it'll work out, though.
kidcolin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 01:05 PM   #5144
capone0
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
capone0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Philly
Posts: 43,034
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Laimbeer is the next pick.

ROFL.

Yesterday I mentioned this earlier I sent Noze 5 guys to pick from and they all went so quickly.

Tim H
Mullin
Jermaine
Boozer
Al Jefferson

I also message Seadood this morning and asked him about Al Jefferson and what he thought. I thought he might be available next round. He isn't that efficient but he's a 20/10 guy at 22 and defensively he isn't bad but isn't great either. He has a ton of upside.
capone0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 01:06 PM   #5145
Steroid Boy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Steroid Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Backpacking Bananas
Posts: 42,156
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

al jefferson was not making it to round 3
Steroid Boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 01:07 PM   #5146
D104
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
D104's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In a better place.
Posts: 18,272
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Im going to forgive a bit of a reach because of the full season of 20/10. Its really hard to do. I can only find 9 other guys (that havent been picked yet) that have done it even once. And I think all of them have some, if not a huge downside. With Al, you at least have promise. But that could be misleading.

D

PS I don't think this post is out of bounds, ppl should be looking for 20/10 guys anyway.
D104 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 01:08 PM   #5147
kidcolin
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
kidcolin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: thank god for the hatchery
Posts: 108,763
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

since it seems Big Al was highly touted, I think I like snatching him up and pairing him with Kobe. He's comparable to a worse Pau Gasol (a bit too much of a black hole for the triangle, which Pau is just killing in btw)
kidcolin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 01:10 PM   #5148
Jack of Arcades
Jumbo Jack
 
Jack of Arcades's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Bastion
Posts: 23,569
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Bil Laimbeer was really gonna be the guy I was going to pair with Robinson, but oh well, gotta pick someone else now.
Jack of Arcades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 01:13 PM   #5149
ClarkNasty
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
ClarkNasty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: 10x the man Clarkmeister is
Posts: 35,385
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Kool Aid View Post
Clark,

How much of your dislike of Big Al stems from the fact that he used to be a Celtic? 90 percent? 99 percent?

The same amount as my dislike of Boozer and JoN and Bynum.
ClarkNasty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2008, 01:13 PM   #5150
ClarkNasty
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
ClarkNasty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: 10x the man Clarkmeister is
Posts: 35,385
Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

Lambeer great pick.
ClarkNasty is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2020, Two Plus Two Interactive