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Old 05-20-2008, 12:54 AM   #4951
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You guys are forgetting the intangibles Marbury brings to the table. He's a great character guy who every coach wants around the locker room. He was team captain of the Knicks for a reason.
Lol, I don't give two ****s if Charles and the rest of my team likes him around the locker room, remember we are not going to play an 82 game season, basically just a bunch of playoff series. Anyone remember Marbury's buzzer beating three in Game 1 Suns vs Spurs?
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:54 AM   #4952
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Chris Mullen is very good, but you are going to have to convince me that he's a great pick for Stockton. John was a better PnR guy than a penetrate-kick out guy.

I think there are better picks available to pair up with Stockton.. Mullen may be BPA right now, but I don' think he fits with Stockton very well.
This is only 2/5ths of my lineup, reaching on a PnR big man just to fulfill that need would have been a horrible decision. Mullin will gel with any lineup.

Mullin is also a very good passer and rebounder for a 3, I really see no downside to the pick. Pairing two extremely efficient players together isn't a negative.

Stockton will also be better at penetrating with the guard friendly rules of todays game.

Now tell me why its not a good fit. Because Mullin isn't a PnR big man? Not buying it.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:56 AM   #4953
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I want to go to sleep but I keep refreshing this damn page. And I'm not even drafting ffs. OMG.
yeah I was supposed to work out 50 mins ago. whoops.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:56 AM   #4954
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Sigh HSP upstaging my great pick with his pick
Mullin pick couldve been 20 spots ago imo. Great pick. The late first round and second round has really been butchered by some. Way too much value on the board still.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:58 AM   #4955
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Just because you have Stockton doesn't mean you need to try to fit him into a system. You think Mullin can't work with one of the greatest passing guards of all time? I mean, the guy worked with Tim Hardaway, why can't he work with Stockton?
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:00 AM   #4956
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Lol, I don't give two ****s if Charles and the rest of my team likes him around the locker room, remember we are not going to play an 82 game season, basically just a bunch of playoff series. Anyone remember Marbury's buzzer beating three in Game 1 Suns vs Spurs?
Marbury's playoff record speaks for itself, no doubt.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:00 AM   #4957
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If I hadn't traded up for Nance, Mullin may well have been my pick.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:00 AM   #4958
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damn u franchise60 - I had Mullin next on my list...I keep having to readjust my next-in-line pick.

Im sure my next guy will not get picked - Im certain of it....I just hope Im not sleeping by then.

and yes ....LOL@Starbury pick and WTF@Boozer/Dirk pairing
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:02 AM   #4959
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This is only 2/5ths of my lineup, reaching on a PnR big man just to fulfill that need would have been a horrible decision. Mullin will gel with any lineup.

Mullin is also a very good passer and rebounder for a 3, I really see no downside to the pick. Pairing two extremely efficient players together isn't a negative.

Stockton will also be better at penetrating with the guard friendly rules of todays game.

Now tell me why its not a good fit. Because Mullin isn't a PnR big man? Not buying it.
Because your team as of right now is very unathletic and slow. And by unathletic and slow I mean white.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:04 AM   #4960
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After much deliberation, team Lurchy selects Alvin Robertson with the 69th pick of the draft.

A name that will be unknown to most younger NBA fans, Robertson was a player known for his defense and solid all around game. Just how good was his defense you ask? Robertson was the 1986-87 NBA defensive player of the year and was a member of the 1st or 2nd all defensive team on six different occasions.

Robertson has some very impressive stats regarding his defense. He holds the NBA's all time record for steals in a year per game with 3.7 spg in the 85-86 season. In addition, of the top 12 seasons in steals per game, Robertson owns five of them. In addition, his career average of 2.7 spg is the best in NBA history as is his steal %. Also, Robertson owns the distinction of winning NBA DPoY in 85-86 and not making first team all defense.

While Robertson was known for his defense he was no slouch on offense, averaging 14.0ppg, 5.2rpg, and 5.0apg with a eFG% of 49%.

- 4 Time NBA All Star (86, 87, 88, 91)
- 1985-86 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
- 2 Time First Team All Defense (86-87, 90-91)
- 4 Time Second Team All Defense (85-86, 87-88, 88-89, 89-90)
- All NBA Second Team in 1985-86
- Career PER of 17.0
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:05 AM   #4961
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Because your team as of right now is very unathletic and slow. And by unathletic and slow I mean white.
Good thing this draft isn't a dunk contest then huh?

Stockton is the 2nd best defensive pg taken so far, so please tell me how he isn't athletic enough to thrive in this.

Mullin will get me 25/5/5/2 at 50/90%'s. So no, I'm not buying it. I'll be able to get all the athletes I want in this draft, finding incredibly efficient guys that fit into multiple systems (and both were BPA at each slots!) is very hard to do.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:05 AM   #4962
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Stop naming HighStakesPro's third round sleeper!
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:05 AM   #4963
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damn u franchise60 - I had Mullin next on my list...I keep having to readjust my next-in-line pick.

Im sure my next guy will not get picked - Im certain of it....I just hope Im not sleeping by then.

and yes ....LOL@Starbury pick and WTF@Boozer/Dirk pairing
You do realize that Starbury was more hihgly rated from a pure talent perspective at 23 than Chris Paul, right?
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:06 AM   #4964
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I think he should edit that post though.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:06 AM   #4965
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Good thing this draft isn't a dunk contest then huh?

Stockton is the 2nd best defensive pg taken so far, so please tell me how he isn't athletic enough to thrive in this.

Mullin will get me 25/5/5 at 50/90%'s.
Mullin is pretty awesome
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:07 AM   #4966
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wow mullin finally. i kept waiting and then when peja went before him i almost gave up.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:07 AM   #4967
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Alvin is an under the radar pick for sure, he's a good all around player though.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:07 AM   #4968
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Robertson owns the distinction of winning NBA DPoY in 85-86 and not making first team all defense.
This made me LOL how is that possible?!
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:08 AM   #4969
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You do realize that Starbury was more hihgly rated from a pure talent perspective at 23 than Chris Paul, right?
Not quite.

Still Exhibit A why unproven young guys are being overvalued in this draft.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:08 AM   #4970
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You do realize that Starbury was more hihgly rated from a pure talent perspective at 23 than Chris Paul, right?
ohhhh no you didnt!
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:08 AM   #4971
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Just got back from gym, gonna showever, but two quick comments:

1. Chris Mullin was the guy who I couldn't believe was still available.

2. LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOL Marbury.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:09 AM   #4972
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oh chit - its my turn!...it feels like Ive been waiting forever to finally make my second pick....I will type it and have it up in ....10 minutes or so.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:10 AM   #4973
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A slightly inefficient volume shooter, short-ish peak, great defense? I kinda like it. Some good PGs on the board you passed up to pair with Malone though.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:10 AM   #4974
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btw - Robertson is a good pick - and very underrated imo
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:10 AM   #4975
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Sgt Stuff!! Very good pick.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dhcYsiWv7bg
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