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Old 05-19-2008, 02:37 PM   #4451
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Who traded with clark/noah, mmbt0ne?
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:38 PM   #4452
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I If we can't pass and shoot FTs, what are we good for?
id like to say defense, but we cant really do that well
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:38 PM   #4453
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Hopefully my pick doesn't happen in the next 4 hours but if someone wants I can PM a list of players I want and maybe they pick them for me or I can give you my cell to text me when it's my turn. I won't be able to leave easily from making a batch at work.
I have work to do on my computer on and off for pretty much the rest of the day and I'm not in the draft. If anyone wants to PM me a list, I'll be around to make your pick.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:40 PM   #4454
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yeah I get the comparison to the Philly team with AI and Deke.. but Deke is a LOT better than Wallace imo.
only in mystere, but in pure defensive ability, big ben may actually have been better.

people remmeber big ben as his lazy, slothful, bulls self. on the pistons he was a game changer it was unbelievable.

i'll admit it, for a year (maybe 2) ben wallace was my favorite NBA player.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:40 PM   #4455
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grit, effort, hustle, 'heady' play.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:41 PM   #4456
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Round 2, Pick 61: Mitch "Rock" Richmond



Pairing Kidd with a lights out shooter and scorer is a no brainer here. Someone who can run along side him and force Ds to be honest is key. Richmond is one of only 7 NBA players to average at least 21 PPG in his first 10 seasons and his consistency was amazing. Whether you remember him on Run TMC, the Kings, or Wizards you probably saw him lighting it up. Richmond was forced to play on some pretty horrendous Kings teams in the 90s but was still a fabulous player. Richmond tailed off a bit at the end of his career but he really just did not fit in on those Washington teams. In his final season, he jumped on the Laker 3 peat squad to win a title and go out on top. The key with evaluating Richmond is to look past the awful teams he was on and look at him as a player and how he will fit into this league.

Michael Jordan said Richmond was one of the hardest players to defend in the NBA. "There really are no weaknesses in his game," said Jordan. "He can drive to the hoop as well as take the outside jump shot. He reminds me a lot of me in his overall offensive display."

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Old 05-19-2008, 02:41 PM   #4457
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**** YOU KLJ **** YOU **** YOU **** YOU JUST SAW YOUR PICK **** YOU
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:42 PM   #4458
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bobbo's gonna be pisssssssssed
yeah, i am - i was going to trade up to the top of the round to get sid the squid, he was a ****ing beast. there was a sick youtube of him vs MJ in the 1989 playoff game or something like that where both of them went off
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:43 PM   #4459
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Hopefully FaDi tries to take Oscar Robertson to pair with his original Wilt the Stilt first round pick.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:43 PM   #4460
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mitch richmond is money scorer.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:43 PM   #4461
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I guess my big question about the "future" is how far are we going to look? Any more than 6-7 years and its going to get weird. Its a rare feat for a player to excel into his 30s. If we are going to look 10+ years into the future, I think a lot of teams will be LOL bad or won't have enough players to fill a starting 5.

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Old 05-19-2008, 02:44 PM   #4462
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Mitch Richmond was the 2nd best player in NBA Jam (a game full of superstars), so you got that going for you.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:44 PM   #4463
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:45 PM   #4464
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wow. i thought wallace was a very good pick especially matched up with iverson. with all the chucking that iverson will do it's important to have a really good offensive rebounder and wallace is as good as it gets. it also allows you more flexibility on defense because he's so good at protecting the paint
Yeah thats sorta the point. Wallace is as good of post defender and rebounder as anyone other than Shaq, Dream, Deke, etc. I thought it was good value. Plus, he's only going to shoot when its a layup, dunk, put back etc.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:46 PM   #4465
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Mitch Richmond was the 2nd best player in NBA Jam (a game full of superstars), so you got that going for you.
thats funny, i almost mentioned nba jam.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:46 PM   #4466
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Yeah thats sorta the point. Wallace is as good of post defender and rebounder as anyone other than Shaq, Dream, Deke, etc. I thought it was good value. Plus, he's only going to shoot when its a layup, dunk, put back etc.
But the thing is, that's all he really does now and shoots 47%. The guy has brick hands. 40% ft percentage is mercilous bad.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:47 PM   #4467
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thats funny, i almost mentioned nba jam.
It's true too, only player better was Pippen, and if Jordan was in the game it obv woulda been unfair having the 2nd best players in the game on the same team.

But of course the best team in the game imo was the Hornets, with Mourning and another player who hadn't been drafted. Both were big (small guys sucked ldo), could dunk, and shoot the 3 all lights out sick team.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:47 PM   #4468
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Like Richmond a lot. Sacto was my team in NBA jam because of him. He was an insane shooter in the game and had crazy dunks too. He was pretty good irl as well.

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Old 05-19-2008, 02:47 PM   #4469
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I dunno.. Im' a little meh on the Richmond pick, just based on the #s. But on the flip side he was an absolute staple on all of NBA Live super teams. I loved this guy.

I think it's a good pick, not a great one.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:47 PM   #4470
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I guess my big question about the "future" is how far are we going to look? Any more than 6-7 years and its going to get weird. Its a rare feat for a player to excel into his 30s. If we are going to look 10+ years into the future, I think a lot of teams will be LOL bad or won't have enough players to fill a starting 5.

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Its a franchise, discussion has been had about a tournament at roughly 24, 28, 32 years old. So getting a guy that only produces for 5 years and then is out is gonna hurt. That being said, other than most of the guys in the first round, you aren't going to have someone excel for 10-15 years straight.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:48 PM   #4471
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i was wondering when mitch would go, thought someone might get sick value for him a little later. as is i think a good pick but not stellar.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:48 PM   #4472
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Mitch Richmond was the 2nd best player in NBA Jam (a game full of superstars), so you got that going for you.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:49 PM   #4473
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LOL, I wrote my post before seeing all the NBA Jam posts. So awesome.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:49 PM   #4474
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another thing about moncrief... he was DPOY. as a 6'3 guard. That's ****ing insane.

He is like bowen but v good scorer too
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:49 PM   #4475
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I dunno.. Im' a little meh on the Richmond pick, just based on the #s. But on the flip side he was an absolute staple on all of NBA Live super teams. I loved this guy.

I think it's a good pick, not a great one.
How many 5 time all-nba playerrs, 6 time all-stars are you going to get in the middle of the 2nd round? Defensively he's pretty blah, but still.
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