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Old 05-17-2008, 06:31 PM   #3726
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Yes. Would straighten him out like he did with Josh Howard.
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:32 PM   #3727
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Yes. Would straighten him out like he did with Josh Howard.
hmm, right
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:32 PM   #3728
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Hmm Avery Johnson...
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:35 PM   #3729
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I can do 2pt shots and 3pt shots by percentage
I think you need to break it out in more detail, as there are 2pt shots (layups and dunks) that are offensive goldmines, and 2pt shots (jumpers) that are last-resorts. I'd be much more interested in seeing the ratio of those than just comparing %s across eras.

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Or you can just do what Dallas does and voluntarily take some sort of 2-pt jump shot.
But it's worked so well for them....
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:47 PM   #3730
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kbfc- variance?
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:03 PM   #3731
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Re:Nance

A couple of things I wanted to add/take away from Clark's description of Larry Nance.

One of his great abilities which would translate into today's games was his ballhandling skills for a big man. He was one of the few guys of that stature that could run the break, and could take guys off the dribble in the half court. I do feel that Clark is overrating his inside game, however. LN wasn't a post-up player, and got most of his points off cuts and his sheer athleticism. This is actually better for Clark's team, because they don't need another dominant guy down low with Ewing.

I also think he should have been a first rounder, because he did the two things that I feel are most important in this draft, defend and score efficiently. He did these better than many that were picked in the first round.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:17 PM   #3732
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btw theres one player that I'm absolutely shocked hasn't been picked yet(and hes not even the guy I'm targetting to move up for).
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:22 PM   #3733
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btw theres one player that I'm absolutely shocked hasn't been picked yet(and hes not even the guy I'm targetting to move up for).
I have debated moving up to take the guy I mentioned via PM, but it just seems that there will still be a lot of value 20 picks down the road.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:22 PM   #3734
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btw theres one player that I'm absolutely shocked hasn't been picked yet(and hes not even the guy I'm targetting to move up for).
To play devils advocate how is this any better than saying "That one sg would work well with this guy". Now if I have some pick in mind I am looking over everything again to see the obvious pick I must have missed.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:35 PM   #3735
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i firmly believe at this juncture the guy i want will drop to me, which makes me really warm inside
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:38 PM   #3736
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I have debated moving up to take the guy I mentioned via PM, but it just seems that there will still be a lot of value 20 picks down the road.
pretty lame yall are discussing undrafted players via pm but get all butthurt when someone mentions a player in the thread.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:38 PM   #3737
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To play devils advocate how is this any better than saying "That one sg would work well with this guy". Now if I have some pick in mind I am looking over everything again to see the obvious pick I must have missed.
Because one statement gives an obvious hint(SG) while the other is completely ambiguous.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:40 PM   #3738
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i really wanted manu or nance or deron. figured manu or nance would drop to me and now im really pissed i didnt trade up. blah. i got 1 guy i really want now, who knows. proly wont pick for a week anyway.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:46 PM   #3739
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pretty lame yall are discussing undrafted players via pm but get all butthurt when someone mentions a player in the thread.
collusion ftw
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:47 PM   #3740
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pretty lame yall are discussing undrafted players via pm but get all butthurt when someone mentions a player in the thread.
The talks are pretty meaningless. For example when Bobbo and I were both trying to move up to get Deron Williams he PMed me and asked me if thats who I was targetting. I told him 'yes.' If anything us exchanging that info hurt our own chances of getting him since we were giving our strategy away to someone else who was trying to outbid us to move up. Basically my only concern is that we get a ton of original thought and don't follow the herd with all of our selections. I don't think this stops us from accomplishing that. I do think discussing players that may soon be drafted in the thread does though. But no big deal....if enough people want to make a rule that no private discussion is allowed(honor system) then I'll agree with it.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:53 PM   #3741
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Because one statement gives an obvious hint(SG) while the other is completely ambiguous.
It's not ambiguous at all and can change the mindset of a drafter.

As I pointed out.. I could have thought xxx was a good pick, albeit somewhat of a reach. Now you made your post and I need to search for yyy because it seems like an obvious pick and I don't want to look dumb or whatever.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:55 PM   #3742
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My point is it should be black and white and not grey.

OMG HOW IS THAT ONE GUY STILL AVAILABLE and PM's about specific players is no better than "there is that one sf I really wanted but I decided to take xxx instead".

But I'm not a part of this so feel free to ignore me.. just something that didn't seem right.
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Old 05-17-2008, 08:06 PM   #3743
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Re: Modern Era NBA Build a Franchise Draft Discussion

just noticed that the spreadsheet had me down for having 13 picks (had double picks in the 6th, 7th, and 10th rounds). edited and put in EPiPeN11's name for those picks.

also for those wondering what's going on:

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I hope the draft gets back to me tonight....otherwise it might be hard for me to get the pick in before Saturday.
So he'll probably pick today (and hopefully soon because he logged on about 30 mins ago) and if not, then we'll figure out what to do.

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Old 05-17-2008, 08:45 PM   #3744
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kbfc- variance?
Yup. That's one of the things I've hated about Dallas as a Spurs fan. That offense is ugly as sin, but when the shooters are on, they can beat anybody in the league, and it's especially effective against SA. When it's not, though, well, I think it's pretty clear what happens in that case.....
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Old 05-17-2008, 08:55 PM   #3745
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because he logged on about 30 mins ago
zomg, heart racing now.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:08 PM   #3746
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zomg, heart racing now.
Last activity at 7:49, I think we're all going to have to wait. People with lives are ruining this draft!?!?!11111
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:11 PM   #3747
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How can you guys tell when someone logs on to 2p2? Or are you talking about AIM?
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:11 PM   #3748
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wow, he logged onto 2p2 and made no acknowledgment of this thread when it should have been quite obv he was up. i would proly punch him in the face if i knew where he was at.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:16 PM   #3749
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Sorry again guys, two graduations to attend today...should be my last delay....let me look this over and try to figure somebody out. Victor, I'm in Christopher, IL....and probably deserve more than one punch.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:16 PM   #3750
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How can you guys tell when someone logs on to 2p2? Or are you talking about AIM?
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/25691/

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