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Old 05-16-2008, 01:49 AM   #3076
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Will most teams be better than the best team from 07-08? What about historical teams? I'm already worried that my team will be worse than this year's Lakers.
Good q. I think because we get players in their peaks, (or roughly around that, alot of clamor about that) all of our teams should be contenders if not the favorites in a given NBA year. i think interestingly alot of those title teams will have a better "1-2" so to speak, but we will have far superior depth. i think.
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:54 AM   #3077
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Will most teams be better than the best team from 07-08? What about historical teams? I'm already worried that my team will be worse than this year's Lakers.
The average team in this league will be way better than the average team in the NBA because 10 or so more teams doesn't make up for a whole generation more of players. However there also won't be any rebuilding teams or horrible NY Knicks type teams in this league, so the top teams may not be as great...probably similar actually.
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:56 AM   #3078
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Good q. I think because we get players in their peaks, (or roughly around that, alot of clamor about that) all of our teams should be contenders if not the favorites in a given NBA year. i think interestingly alot of those title teams will have a better "1-2" so to speak, but we will have far superior depth. i think.
This is almost exactly what I was thinking. It's important to note though that most of the contenders this year are led by players who aren't at their peaks. I would think it's not usually like this.
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:59 AM   #3079
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This is almost exactly what I was thinking. It's important to note though that most of the contenders this year are led by players who aren't at their peaks. I would think it's not usually like this.
Bulls II weren't at their peaks. Spurs first team wasn't. Nor was their most recent team. Lakers were at their peaks, so was Detroit. Miami wasn't.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:02 AM   #3080
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I think the longest thread in POG (Puzzles and Other Games) was up around the 8K mark. This will surely obliterate that.
The first omg omg thread in BBV4L had 21k replies before they locked it to save the server. It's sick, there are 4 guys with greater than 1k posts in that thread alone, and 2 guys with more than 2k.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:04 AM   #3081
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The first omg omg thread in BBV4L had 21k replies before they locked it to save the server. It's sick, there are 4 guys with greater than 1k posts in that thread alone, and 2 guys with more than 2k.
What was that thread about, I looked at a few posts in the middle of it and they didn't make any sense, like most threads especially in bbv4l
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:05 AM   #3082
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The biggest threads was some playboy pics thread in the title that Sklansky started and maybe the myspace thread.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:09 AM   #3083
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Well 30 pages through 10 rounds = 150 pages through 10 rounds...maybe 170 counting post draft commentary and debates I'd say
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:12 AM   #3084
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I'm not even in the draft and just spent a couple hours wasting time on it. From my research there are a lot of really good players out there, many from the 80s/early 90s. Looks like most posters are favoring modern day players so I suspect by the end of this thing there will be a few teams with a bunch of older, less recognizable players and those teams will be the best.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:14 AM   #3085
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The problem is, we DON'T know if Deron is injury prone or not. We KNOW that Stockton, Jordan, Malone aren't. HUGE difference.
and they're picked all ready.. in the top 15. What's your point?
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:14 AM   #3086
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I simply hate Carmelo
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:14 AM   #3087
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Bulls II weren't at their peaks. Spurs first team wasn't. Nor was their most recent team. Lakers were at their peaks, so was Detroit. Miami wasn't.
Just looking at this decade, the Blazers and Kings teams at the turn were at their peaks. So were the Mavs and Suns from a couple of years ago. The 02-04 Nets. Were the any other major contenders in this time frame?

Edit: I guess the Blazers are debatable.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:16 AM   #3088
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NBA general discussion was a ****ing beast this year.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:17 AM   #3089
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Just looking at this decade, the Blazers and Kings teams at the turn were at their peaks. So were the Mavs and Suns from a couple of years ago. The 02-04 Nets. Were the any other major contenders in this time frame?

Edit: I guess the Blazers are debatable.
Pacers
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:19 AM   #3090
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I think Melo might be the worst pick of this draft. There are literally millions of guys in the talent pool who give you exactly what Carmelo gives you that will be available in round 9 when I'm picking coach Larry (let that be a warning to ye all)
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:21 AM   #3091
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Pacers
Forgot about that team. Four out of the top 5 scorers were 25 or under, with the exception being the corpse of Reggie Miller. Don't know how you'd score that one.

Last edited by .Alex.; 05-16-2008 at 02:25 AM. Reason: i think i stole that line from Simmons
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:22 AM   #3092
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I really thought Carmelo was great value for that pick and would produce better feedback. Am I overrating him or is the Yao/Melo pairing just too bland/uncompatible?
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:23 AM   #3093
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:24 AM   #3094
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Melo has never been THAT good. He's a solid offensive force. Has no 3 ball but great midrange and a strong finisher in the lane. Mediocre passer/assist guy. Pretty weak defender.

Just think Yao and Melo has the making of a very soft defensive front line.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:24 AM   #3095
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clark, please don't ninja edit my posts, esp. when i think i make a good point
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:25 AM   #3096
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Bobbo,

Can't name undrafted guys. Period.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:26 AM   #3097
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Melo has never been THAT good. He's a solid offensive force. Has no 3 ball but great midrange and a strong finisher in the lane. Mediocre passer/assist guy. Pretty weak defender.

Just think Yao and Melo has the making of a very soft defensive front line.
yeah, this. plus when looking through availabel players, offensive-minded 2/3 guys that like the ball in their hands but dont really do anythign else that well are the most plentiful resource. carmelo was going to get picked within the next 50 picks, that is for sure - but that said, do you really think you couldn't find someone LIKE him (but not quite) next round, and expended this pick on someone who can give you other stuff? (that you CANT pickup easily next round) that's the argument, imo, against taking melo here.

also, the combination of yao/anthony as others and myself have said kinda forces you to look for a specific fit player (like, defensive minded 3pt threat) .
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:28 AM   #3098
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Bobbo,

Can't name undrafted guys. Period.
i can picture you putting a gun in a holster or something. like we're in a saloon and you give me a warning, "easy there cowboy".

... probably means i need sleep.

today lots of picks were made. so crucial.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:32 AM   #3099
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I think Melo might be the worst pick of this draft. There are literally millions of guys in the talent pool who give you exactly what Carmelo gives you that will be available in round 9 when I'm picking coach Larry (let that be a warning to ye all)
On a scale of 1-10, how angry would you be if I went coach Larry in Round 8 and your girlfriend in 9?
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:39 AM   #3100
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I think Melo might be the worst pick of this draft. There are literally millions of guys in the talent pool who give you exactly what Carmelo gives you that will be available in round 9 when I'm picking coach Larry (let that be a warning to ye all)
When we get done with the draft, I would like for you to please list for me all the guys available in Round 9 who would "give you exactly what Carmelo gives you." Dramatic overstatement for the win imo.
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