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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
I didn't "lash out", I didn't just feel like saying ok I agree with what you said we already agreed on again.
fair enough.
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Obv I am not going to say Deng will put up 5 outa the 6 years better than his break out year, but he def has a good chance to continue to improve, and even his "bad" year last year wasn't much worse than his breakout year was
I think you misunderstood me. I listed 6 categories(ppg, rpg, apg, spg, bpg, TS%) and I said that Deng would never top 5/6 of his year 3 totals in any one year. In other words, I'm saying he won't improve. Now maybe you could argue that topping 4/6 would be an improvement, and I'd guess I'd agree there....but even still I"m not certain he'll do that. I especially don't see him touching the TS% one.
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Yes of course, but there is almost always one weak/just straight shooter out of the PG/SG/SF on any team, and he will be guarding them so it won't be a huge deal. On a team who has great offensive players at all 3 of these positions he will see less minutes.
I agree with all of that; I just thought the "well my starting 5" argument was weak and you need to account for Martin in your analysis.
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eh i'd really love to hear a teams defense u think is better than mine (not including seadood, clarks or yours)
I said your team was above average but not elite.
I said that to me "elite" means top 3 or 4.
So why do you think that I think there are more than 3 or 4 teams better than yours? I havn't looked at the other rosters completely, so I don't know either way actually. Here I'll look now....
I think the following teams are better than you on D for sure:
Mine
Seadood
Clark
cowboy2579
sergsz
I think the following teams are probably better than yours on D, but I wouldn't argue too strongly for it and to be honest you could probably convince me otherwise with a solid argument:
Nicholasp27
capone0
van_exel_fan
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You aren't the first person to say this, and I am really confused. I agree PG is the "least important defensive position" but jesus it is still important. There are a ton of great PG's who need to be guarded.
Its the least important for 3 reasons:
1. Its not a post defense spot, which means its not vital for help defense against penetration(the main reason post defense is more important than perimeter defense).
2. There are more stud wing scorers that need to be guarded than stud PG scorers.
3. Good defensive wings like Bowen can switch onto star PGs like Bowen does with Nash and Paul at times. It doesn't work the other way around due to size issues.
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This is where I think you underrate both McHale/Perkins...while neither of these are as good as the defensive bigmen you listed above, they aren't that much worse. And my wing/pg defenders are much better than most of those combos you listed (and people are really underrating wing/pg defenders).
I mean seriously, i'm not going to argue wing/pg defenders are as important as bigman defenders because they aren't, but they are still very important.
They are important for sure, but they aren't nearly as important imo. I think post defense(both one-on-one and helpside) is the single most important aspect of winning basketball in fact.