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06-15-2008 , 05:55 PM

#12476

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Posey is not better than Josh Smith.

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06-15-2008 , 05:56 PM

#12477

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Originally Posted by Franchise 60

Posey is not better than Josh Smith.

I never said he was, I would rather have Posey especially on a team with a bunch of stars than Josh Smith though.

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06-15-2008 , 05:57 PM

#12478

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Anyone who says James Posey was more valuable to a team than reggie Lewis can be safely ignored in any basketball discussion.

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06-15-2008 , 05:58 PM

#12479

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Originally Posted by Franchise 60

Posey is not better than Josh Smith.

Obviously he is. The criteria for being a stud are two:

1. above average D
2. Hit open 3's at 38% in your prime

Nothing else matters really.

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06-15-2008 , 06:00 PM

#12480

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Obviously he is. The criteria for being a stud are two:

1. above average D
2. Hit open 3's at 38% in your prime

Nothing else matters really.

Uh no, but those are by far the 2 biggest qualities for a SG/SF role player. Obviously other things matter but those 2 are by far the 2 most important for a role player.

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06-15-2008 , 06:00 PM

#12481

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Anyone who says James Posey was more valuable to a team than reggie Lewis can be safely ignored in any basketball discussion.

We are factoring in the fact that he doesn't play with his condition. So yeah, James Posey is more valuable than a guy who doesn't get cleared to play or at best dies five years into his career. I guess I'm on ignore now.

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06-15-2008 , 06:02 PM

#12482

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Originally Posted by sethypooh21

Anyone who says James Posey was more valuable to a team than reggie Lewis can be safely ignored in any basketball discussion.

Well I was obviously factoring in death/injury into it, but still even then, obviously Reggie Lewis is much more valueable to a team on a team with very few stars but on teams full of stars give me Posey over Lewis.

Even Team USA got smart enough to get these elite wing defenders/shooters like Battier, because they are more valueable to teams full of stars than other stars are who can't shoot/play defense at sg/sf.

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06-15-2008 , 06:03 PM

#12483

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I never said he was, I would rather have Posey especially on a team with a bunch of stars than Josh Smith though.

I'd much rather have Josh Smith on a team of stars, a team without stars, a team with moons, anything.

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06-15-2008 , 06:04 PM

#12484

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Originally Posted by Seadood228

We are factoring in the fact that he doesn't play with his condition. So yeah, James Posey is more valuable than a guy who doesn't get cleared to play. I guess I'm on ignore now.

Well obviously, if he can't actually play he has no value. 6 Years of Lewis still more value than Posey's entire career.

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06-15-2008 , 06:05 PM

#12485

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Originally Posted by Franchise 60

I'd much rather have Josh Smith on a team of stars, a team without stars, a team with moons, anything.

I expect you to. I also expect you to not know the difference of his value on a team with stars or without stars.

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06-15-2008 , 06:05 PM

#12486

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but on teams full of stars give me Posey over Lewis.

Epic fail. Because why would you want a guy superior in every aspect of the game except ability to where knee pads?

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06-15-2008 , 06:06 PM

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I expect you to. I also expect you to not know the difference of his value on a team with stars or without stars.

I'm not sure I agree, but this is a pretty sick burn.

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06-15-2008 , 06:07 PM

#12488

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Originally Posted by sethypooh21

Epic fail. Because why would you want a guy superior in every aspect of the game except ability to where knee pads?

Huh? Reggie Lewis was not a better 3pt shooter or defender than Posey is.

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06-15-2008 , 06:07 PM

#12489

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This thread has taken basically everything that is underrated or slightly underrated in basketball and just run away with all of it.

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06-15-2008 , 06:08 PM

#12490

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They are also much more valuable in the international game and it's why they brought them. They also brought a real PG which really helped during the last WC. I'm sorry but AI is a horrible Team USA pg.

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06-15-2008 , 06:08 PM

#12491

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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11

His man doesn't leave him all the time, yes of course his man leaves him sometimes, and Bowen makes them pay with his 3's.

I think what Assani is pointing out is that because Bowen is the player that teams opt to double off of, it shows that he is considered by coaches and players to be the least offensive threat.

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06-15-2008 , 06:09 PM

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They are also more valueable on an NBA team full of stars as well.

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06-15-2008 , 06:10 PM

#12493

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I think what Assani is pointing out is that because Bowen is the player that teams opt to double off of, it shows that he is considered by coaches and players to be the least offensive threat.

Teams double off Tony Parker/Finley too...

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06-15-2008 , 06:10 PM

#12494

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They are also more valueable on an NBA team full of stars as well.

Dream Team didn't have any problem winning without scrubs, neither would the USA if they built the team to play the international game. I guess bringing guys like Battier helps but there are other star alternatives.

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06-15-2008 , 06:11 PM

#12495

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They are also more valueable on an NBA team full of stars as well.

It is a well known fact that the better some players on your team are, the worse you want other players to be.

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06-15-2008 , 06:12 PM

#12496

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Dream Team was also playing some of the worst basketball teams of all time.

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06-15-2008 , 06:12 PM

#12497

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It's amazing how the original Dream Team was even able to win with all those stars.

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06-15-2008 , 06:13 PM

#12498

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Originally Posted by sethypooh21

It is a well known fact that the better some players on your team are, the worse you want other players to be.

uh no.

Let me ask you a question, for a role player who plays off the ball and plays the SG/SF position, what are the 2 most important qualities for them to have?