How can you say that about KAJ and then rank Russell above him when Russell's team was stocked full of HOFers?


And I think you're severely underrating luck and variance in sports when you say things like "NBA success is about one thing, success."

And if Kareem had Magic's passing skills he'd be better than Magic....wtf does that prove?


Even still I think I disagree. Magic was average on defense, KAJ was a great defender at the most important defensive position.

Of course it won't really matter...but this is too much fun to want it to end, no?

random brag: Big article in current issue of Bluff Magazine talks a ton about me

random beat: The jist of the article is taking a shot at the WSOP and its mostly talking about how I took a chance in 2006 by playing in a bunch of events and lost a bunch

random variance: I'll get my bracelet this year

4 star thread imo

You would.

Did they mention how big of health risk drafting Penny in the second round was?..if not - then why r u posting it here!

seriously though, congrats on the article and best of luck in the WSOP....getter done!

link to article?

I think we're on different wavelengths here, comparing apples to oranges. I agree with everything you said, including the fact that he would likely suffer more than the others in this exercise (although Russell sees the same effect, competing against much larger and better competition).

However, in the post that you quoted (that started this whole thing), my sole point that his statistical dominance over his era hasn't been duplicated. I'm trying not to open the can of worms of who was a better player, or who would do better in our magical league.

Just that his stats while he played were bat**** insane and nobody will ever come close.

assani, while you're on, any ruling on bigcat? he hasn't been spotted for more than a week.

Just posting it here because....well because I'm in this thread nearly all day long and I pretty much post everything here, lol. I don't think the full article is available online, but theres a preview of it under "Taking a Shot": http://www.bluffmagazine.com/magazine/preview.asp

oh ok...yea I guess we agree then

I'm going to say that since:

A. I did say there was no time limit

B. Even so, its only been a few hours since the last pick

C. Being gone while its not your pick is not against the rules



I'm not going to take any action yet. My completely unofficial rules are to give everyone 24 hours before I even start to worry. And isn't he friends with BigChips? Maybe he can help. Regardless lets just see if he shows up tomorrow.

Also Bobbo...while you're here in Vegas I'd like to talk to you in person about the basketball site we were discussing via email.

sounds good to me, let's have dinner when kbfc gets here, we'll get the juices flowing about basketball.

Assani - Congrats and good luck.

On BigCat - He's actually come through pretty well with his picks. My guess is that BigChips lets him know, because this same thing happened last time and he didn't take that long to pick.

isnt bigcat a gimmick acct? the original proly reads this thread anyway.

marbury's EF rating > payton, kidd, reggie, b.davis, pippen and a million others drafted before him.

Efficiency?

Efficiency rating is ****ing terrible.

Assani,

You have a habit of using per 36 minutes in incorrect ways to make arguments. e.g. Ginobili is awesome because of his per 36, or Wilt's overrated because of his per 36. I know that you know that Ginobili has less value than others because of his inability to play more, and that Wilt has more value because he's an iron man. Yet for some reason, you still like to skew discussion with those meaningless stats. I don't get it.

That's how I can say that.

And about the luck and varience thing: maybe, but there are reason that we think of Tim Duncan more highly than Kevin Garnett. That we think of Hakeem more highly than we think of David Robinson. That we think of Tony Parker more highly than we do of Stephon Marbury. And it's because of the rings. Would Timmy have 4 if he had landed in Boston instead of San Antonio? Who knows.

I really like the McKey pick - he has nice stats, but watching him play, I was always impressed. A good teammate, plays well within the team concept both offensively and defensively. Nothing spectacular, very workman-like, but effective. Should fit in nice on JoA's team

I was wondering when Ruland would go. I think it was too early, but I like that the drafter didn't try to make crap up and just admitted the injuries and is willing to take whatever Ruland gives him. A nice change of pace in that department. Should be an awesome team in years 1-2 of the league though. I didn't like the team at first, but I think sergsz has done an awesome job of expanding on the Areans/Deke core and filled in the other spots nicely. In year 1, I think Gay will probably fare better as a 6th man than as a starter, and I would make that my next pick. By year 4, Gay should be ready to take over.

Tripucka - I like him and he should serve well in the 6th man role - instant offense, no defense.

D

Im interested to see if Big Cat and mmbtone take true centers or power forwards and decide to go small.

D

The draft is getting slow.......................need picks! Want to have first 5 picks for everyone so we can grade.

BiiiiiiiiiiiiiigChips is on, BiiiiiiiiiiiiigChips can you contact BigCat for his pick?