What is overrated? Defense???

This is great, I wake up and there are a few picks. Sweet. (Whats the deal w/ everyone making turrrible writeups?)

Paul Pressey
I know a bunch of people had their eyes on him so he was NOT falling further. Nice selection, odd fit I think. I think of him as more of a grinder who "got it done," not an up-tempo running mate for Magic. Good value regardless.

Andrew Bogut
Hint to Victor: LIST YOUR ****ING TEAM DUDE. You have the worst frontcourt defense in the league IMO. Bogut/Amare will be funny to watch together - I think he's alright value but there are a couple better centers I'd rather pair on your team I think.

Rajon Rondo
Since Rondo is one of my favorite 5 players in the NBA (top 3 in fact) out of respect for him I can't trash the pick. That said, I think this is a reach.

Brian Grant
The general! I liked him, too, in NBA2k/2k1. I think Zoidberg nailed a homerun here, both for pairing on his team, for value, AND for need. Wow, the trifecta. I think ACG, Okur, Manning, Spre, and Pressey have been the best picks of this round so far. (In no particular order)

Nick the Quick
Love his nickname and free throw shooting. Don't love the player, tho. I think there were a bunch of better PGs (I don't like his game, it's so iso-centric) and I always thought he was more of a chucker. Good thing is with Pippen you didn't need a pass-first PG, but you have an odd team for sure. (2 centers, 2 small forwards, and a combo guard) He'd be great off the bench...

James Posey
Teddy, you want to start him at the 2? He's a 3/4, I do think he's a plus defender, but generally does well w/ physicality. He doesn't guard little ones that well. I know you wanted Pressey (and Posey is a SLIGHTLY poor man's Pressey) so I can understand the pick, and I think it's solid value, just nothing too amazing.

yeah i think van exel coming off the bench is way better. but that could certainly be the plan - too early to judge.

i will say there aren't too many guys capable of taking over games at this point in the draft and when nick got it going he was sick.

Just wanted to point out, Marbury has a career 19 PER, and that's including his last three years with the godawful Knicks that caused his average to drop from 20+. On the other hand his career TS% is .530, which has been pretty constant throughout his career except one outlier year when he had .575.

I agree. Good example of low usage/low TS is Ben Wallace. He SUCKS on offense. I'm still waiting for someone to draft a 4ppg scorer w. a high TS and raving about the pick, tho, hehe.

in my mind tho PER is an offensive stat. And Amare is indeed a top 5 offensive player. In fact, don't see how people could argue that.

Bobbo, wanna play ball today? Was going to go in about an hour or two.

Mark Jackson was on my list, JoA. I thought Tee Bee was a better fit (and IMO a better player, but think they're similar in pure value) so I went with him.

I watched a fair amount of Bucks games, and basically his team makes his D look worse than it is, but even on a good day it's not QUITE average.

Sorry, but KG/Perk is a better defensive combo than Buck/Mourning. Although it's probably close.

I love Posey but I was NOT drafting him in this upcoming spot.

Yeah I'm not claiming Posey is a great pick. I just like the fit. He's what I need. And he can definitely guard 2's, although with Hill's quickness I might stick him on some of the 2's. Not sure yet.

Also, is there a better 2/3 defensive pairing than Hill and Posey? I looked through and there were some other good ones, but I wouldn't say any are better than mine.

Now just need a PG.

So according to this, per 36 Majerle is a step above scoring department, Posey is not QUITE the 3pt shooter but v close to shoe guys, they all get to the line roughly the same amount with Majerle a step above, Posey is the best rebounder, none of them turn it over a ton... PER underrates the hell out of all of them, hmm, cool stuff teddy.

I think it does show Majerle was def the best of that bunch (goes to show Battier was a reach) and that's not close, but Posey is only a slight step below Battier and Prince, and frankly, at this point, that qualifies as good value. Kudos.

Kobe, Lebron, Dirk, Nash, Chris Paul, and Wade (when healthy) are all better on offense imo.

Top rated players this year by scoring PER, which is:

(Pts + FGM *.3 - FGA*.7 - (FTA-FTM*-.4)

per 48 minutes

Player Scoring PER
Amare Stoudemire 33.6
Kobe Bryant 28.8
LeBron James 28.7
Kevin Martin 27.8
Carmelo Anthony 27.6
Dirk Nowitzki 26.5
Manu Ginobili 25.9
Corey Maggette 25.6
Chris Bosh 25.5
Undrafted Player 24.9
Allen Iverson 24.8
Dwyane Wade 24.4
Yao Ming 24.4
Carlos Boozer 24.1
Kevin Garnett 23.4
Dwight Howard 23.3
Michael Redd 22.9
Richard Jefferson 22.9
Paul Pierce 22.2
Chauncey Billups 22.1
Chris Paul 22.0

This isn't adjusted for pace.

finally caught up to this, and i just woke up. if you are leaving/left, than no, otherwise yeah, i coudl play

Amare just put up 25.2 and 20.4 ppg on 63.7 and 65.6% TS in back to back seasons. He may very well be the best offensive player in the league imo.

thats just, like, your opinion, man.

nah, watching Shawshank Redemption, then gonna go get my hair cut...then play....maybe around 6:30 or 7? Sound good to you? I'll give you a call before I leave if you want.

we all know nash is the GOAT so it renders this discussion about amare useless IMO

adjust for pace plz

Oh man I love shawshank. sure, just give me a call at 7 or something.

Certainly he's got the most valuable statline, but Amare's the one guy that's probably helped the most by Nash, right?

I agree but do you really think Amare is better at offense than any of them? There are also a bunch of people who are close to Amare on offense (although i'd rank Amare higher than them).

I'm a huge Amare fan too fwiw.

I actually do agree with you, but I had to whip out the lebowski line.