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Originally Posted by Victor
look assani, u make many statements about how assani will be healthier longer if he could do it over or have todays techniques. this is overrating it imo. just the mere statement. you never put in the possibility that he can get injured sooner. what if they find out he needs micro after just 1 year in the league? and it fails (which it most likely will bc his knee construction sux.)
you just flat out say, he will be better off today. and that i disagree with. that is overestimation. imo.
penny had a decent rookie year for a rookie. lets leave that out.
he had a spectacular 2nd season. a very good 3rd year. and only played 59 games the next year. so more like a 2.5 year peak but, he was really only out of this world for 1 year, and very good the rest. its fun to be nitty, isnt it?
NONONONONONONON. WTF DO U READ. IVE SAID THIS A SHT LOAD OF TIMES. THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLAYERS WHO HAD EXCELLENT OR VERY GOOD STRETCHES FOR 1-2 YEARS. THEY WOULD BE BETTER DRAFT PICKS IN THIS DRAFT IF THEY WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY GOT HURT, SO WE COULD ARGUE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE KEPT UP THAT PEAK. INSTEAD THEY REGRESSED AND HAD MEDIOCRE CAREERS.
I made the statement that knowing about a player's condition at age 24 instead of misdiagnosing it and not finding out about it until age 26 would only help us deal with his condition and would increase the chances of him staying healthy.
I also made the statement that the type of surgery we were talking about was "invented" in the late 80s and early 90s. In 1997 it was still very young and in development. Eleven years later the surgery is more advanced and better done. This would only increase the chances that Penny would stay healthy.
You said that I was overestimating Penny's chances of health by these two statements. Please explain exactly where you think I'm overestimating. Also you're completely wrong that I dismiss the chances that Penny gets injured sooner, as I specifically admitted that was a possibility(although less likely than in real life due to the two above reasons). I also do not ever say "he WILL BE better off today." I say HE IS LIKELY to be better off today. Again, I never say any definitive statements. I merely presented the facts and let people draw their own conclusions.
2.5 does not equal 1.5. If you're trying to make an argument and you're off by 40% then I'm going to call you out on that. LOL if you think that makes me a nit. 40% is not nittish.
Regarding the third point. Here was your exact statement:
"why cant i find a bunch of dudes with similar very short awesome peaks and say, well, mebbe they woulda continued it bc of abc."
Notice that you said SIMILAR very short awesome peaks.
My reponse to this is that there are no players with SIMILAR peaks except for maybe 20 of the guys drafted in round 1.