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Originally Posted by Victor
he had a 1.5 year peak. wtf. why cant i find a bunch of dudes with similar very short awesome peaks and say, well, mebbe they woulda continued it bc of abc?
Victor,
Does you ignoring the major point of my post mean you take back what you said?
I've noticed something that happens here. You disagree with a poster over something and you're very certain that you're right, and for it impacts your view of that poster even on other issues. I'm certainly not immune to it. For example, take a look at me and EPip. Before the McHale debate I remember agreeing a lot with him. A few times he even wrote "Yea, you just wrote basically what I wrote(I hadn't caught up in the thread when I posted)." However after our disagreement on McHale, it seems like we agree a lot less on other things.
Similarly, I'm almost expecting to disagree with HSP's next pick due to Marbury.
Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because I think you're doing this with me here....You saw me react harshly regarding the debate over Hardaway's peak. And now you automatically assumed that I was wrong about the injury prone issue. In reality, as you can see by my recap of my posts above, I've been very fair about the injury issue and have never given any of my thoughts on the exact chances that he is able to play any number of years(which makes it completely ridiculous that you'd say I'm overestimating his chances, as I'M NOT EVEN ESTIMATING THEM!!!). If you'd like me to give my honest estimations of his chances of various injury scenarios, then I'll go ahead and do it, but I havn't done that yet so you can't critisize me there.
Anyway, back to the issue of his peak....
"he had a 1.5 year peak. wtf."
In 3 consecutive years he was All NBA 1st Team, All NBA 1st Team, and All NBA 3rd Team. Yes the one year in the middle of those 3 was his best year. However, I don't see how you only count this as a 1.5 year peak. Please explain.
"why cant i find a bunch of dudes with similar very short awesome peaks and say, well, mebbe they woulda continued it bc of abc?"
You can't find them because they don't exist or have been drafted already. Obviously you can't list undrafted players here, but I've repeatedly challenged you to list 20 players out of the 74 drafted who have put up a season as good as his at 24 years of age or younger and you've never done it. And if you really want to include undrafted players in your list then list all of the drafted players and PM me the few undrafted players in which you think have put up a better year than his at such a young age.