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Didn't like the Vince pick.

Was originally thinking about Ray on my board but passed feeling I was overrating him a little.

Miller is a stud. He may have gone early, I dunno. But he did things on the court at times that are tough to evaluate on b-ref--if you are comparing Rock to Reg then I just don't know what to say.

As for Pierce, their offensive efficiency is basically the same but if you want me to be a nit, Pierce's is slightly better--but not enough to really matter. His defense is significantly better. He was also a better rebounder and passer.

Miller is a great player, very clutch but he wasn't very good value at his pick imo. He doesn't play D, he doesn't anything but score and shoot 3 pointers. His dimes/rebound numbers aren't good at all.

I'm not arguing that any of these picks are particularly bad but Richmond is comparable and he was picked 25-35+ after some of them, so it's really not bad value at this time.

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05-19-2008 , 03:24 PM

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I'm randomly checking bball ref for no reason and certain players look pretty awesome on the #'s I wonder how far they fall... anyone care to answer in PM? Heh.

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05-19-2008 , 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by capone0

I'm not saying it was an amazing pick. I just don't think it's really out of left field. He was a 5 time all-nba player and there aren't many all-nba players left. I think it's pretty good value for where it is.

yup I thought it was good value, esp when u consider how good of a scorer Richmond was.

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05-19-2008 , 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kidcolin

Paul Pierce >> Mitch Richmond. Their non-scoring stats aren't really close. Pierce grabs you 6 boards and dishes 4 dimes, compared to 4 boards and 4 dimes, and Pierce has played in slower systems his whole career. Throw in the D and it's a big gap.

That's probably why he went 22 picks earlier. At this point, Richmond is a pretty good value.

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05-19-2008 , 03:30 PM

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ofc it's good value. rock was a stud. btw you guys all overrate paul pierce.

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05-19-2008 , 03:31 PM

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my pick is soooo close I can taste it...

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05-19-2008 , 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HighStakesPro

my pick is soooo close I can taste it...

I heard EPiPeN11 was offering an amazing deal, 2 4th round picks for your 2nd, you should take it imo as it might not last (someone before u will probably jump on the deal and u will miss out).

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05-19-2008 , 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mano

That's probably why he went 22 picks earlier. At this point, Richmond is a pretty good value.

qft

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05-19-2008 , 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by capone0

Who traded with clark/noah, mmbt0ne?

Dudd.

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05-19-2008 , 03:35 PM

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Love Moncrief. Great pick.

Good run of guys who should've gone earlier. I think Price went a little early but not much. Tons of good PGs in this league, while I had thought size wouldn't be a premium, I'm starting to think it still is. Lots of wing scorers and PGs left.

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05-19-2008 , 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11

I heard EPiPeN11 was offering an amazing deal, 2 4th round picks for your 2nd, you should take it imo as it might not last (someone before u will probably jump on the deal and u will miss out).

I'd sleep on that offer if I were you.

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05-19-2008 , 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lapoker17

ofc it's good value. rock was a stud. btw you guys all overrate paul pierce.

DID YOU SEE LAST NIGHTS GAME HE WAS LARRY BIRD TO LEBRON'S DOMINIQUE!!!!11!!!!!1Q

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05-19-2008 , 03:37 PM

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FWIW, I have capone0's pick list should his name come up and he's not around.

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05-19-2008 , 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BJLTNYK

I'd sleep on that offer if I were you.

It took me like 10 seconds but I got it and laughed pretty hard, nice one.

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05-19-2008 , 03:39 PM

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Man I love the Moncrief and Ritchmond picks, was hoping they'd fall to the third (obviously was never going to happen).

Like the Price pairing with Amare. I think the tier point guards available now all offer completely different game and its all about getting the right one for your style, Price being the best available to fit with Amare, good pick.

Dont know ANYTHING about Buck but if hes defensively as good as everyone says, thats some nice post defense you got going there with Zo. Like Timmy and D-Rob lite.

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05-19-2008 , 03:40 PM

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Dont know ANYTHING about Buck but if hes defensively as good as everyone says, thats some nice post defense you got going there with Zo. Like Timmy and D-Rob lite.

Don't you mean like Ewing and Nance lite?

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05-19-2008 , 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Don't you mean like Ewing and Nance lite?

Touche.

Ok Ewing and Nance is a slight bit better, but still, both are pretty good frontcourts.

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05-19-2008 , 03:51 PM

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If you got Drob / Duncan in their primes, I think I'd go with the double Ds.

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05-19-2008 , 03:54 PM

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But the thing is, that's all he really does now and shoots 47%. The guy has brick hands. 40% ft percentage is mercilous bad.

Yeah, its obvious Big Ben's not going to score much. But if he only shoots 6 times a game, and makes 3, that doesn't really have too much of a negative effect on the team.

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05-19-2008 , 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fanmail

Yeah, its obvious Big Ben's not going to score much. But if he only shoots 6 times a game, and makes 3, that doesn't really have too much of a negative effect on the team.

When the opposing team can use five players to defend four, it has a huge effect

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05-19-2008 , 04:18 PM

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Wow, Peja seems like a stretch this early to me, did not see that coming at all. My pick is coming in a few.

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05-19-2008 , 04:20 PM

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Peja wow. I didn't see him being picked this early but I can see it working with Clyde. They won't get in each other's way and Peja can just camp outside drilling 3s. Not a bad pick when I think about the pairing.

Also, I forgot to put current team at the bottom but either a mod can edit or I'll fix it after my next pick.

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05-19-2008 , 04:21 PM

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Love the Mitch Richmond pick, kinda meh on Peja.

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05-19-2008 , 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by horizon

When the opposing team can use five players to defend four, it has a huge effect

I think it worked out ok for the Pistons.

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05-19-2008 , 04:22 PM

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I was wondering where Peja would go, had a huge range in mind for him. Thought he would work best with a good big man who can pass, guess we'll have to see who else rounds this team, as always.

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